Since Judith asked for experiences from other fields it struck me that advanced history - matching and upscaling technologies used in number crunching reservoir simulation may be of interest
for climate modellers.
«But also the uncomfortable reality —
for climate modellers — that finite research dollars invested in ever more sophisticated climate models offer very little marginal benefit to decision makers.»
«It [i.e. the explanation of the 1945 cooling anomaly] is welcome news
for climate modellers.
And the observable tendency
for all climate modellers to run away and hide under a stone if anyone suggests that such an exercise might be a great way to show how good they are does not build confidence that a stupendous exhibition of predictive skill is just around the corner.
It is welcome news
for climate modellers.
Scientists Dr Gerard Roe and Professor Marcia Baker, from the University of Washington in Seattle, have now produced a mathematical equation
for climate modellers designed to take uncertainty into account.
Some of the models also involve ensemble calculations, and again it may be instructive
for the climate modellers to describe something about the use of these, especially as the public has been involved in some ensemble calculations being run on their pc's at home.
But they do highlight a big challenge
for climate modellers, and present major research opportunities both for modellers and for climate scientists who work with proxy data.»
Accurately predicting the timing and strength of ENSO events is a major challenge
for climate modellers.
In addition to tracking Arctic change, the sea - ice record is also important
for climate modellers.
Not exact matches
The work could bolster
climate modellers» efforts to depict the way soil moisture and vegetation interact with the atmosphere, says Kevin Trenberth, a climatologist at the US National Center
for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado.
For their scenario calculations, the AWI
modellers plugged in atmospheric CO2 concentrations in excess of 500 ppm, a level in keeping with the forecasts released by the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC).
Till now,
climate modellers» forecasts of future warming have resembled the famous bell curve, with the most likely result of doubling CO2 being a temperature increase of about 3 °C, and with declining probabilities on either side
for a narrow range of higher and lower temperature rises (see Graph).
Instead of deciding whether to compensate
for individual events,
climate modellers could work out how much damages will increase regionally.
This cultural flexibility may have been the key to success
for modern humans, says a team of international researchers, made up of archaeologists, paleo climatologists, and
climate modellers from the French CNRS1 and the EPHE PSL Research University, Bergen University as well as Wits University.
«If we assume an optimistic scenario
for greenhouse gas emissions — the RCP 2.6 scenario, [see Fact Box] which would result in a warming of about two degrees Celsius — then we can expect an increase in sea level similar to what we see in this video,» says
climate modeller Martin Stendel from the Danish Meteorological Institute, Copenhagen.
Statements such as «They come to believe models are real and forget they are only models» reveals he has never had a conversation with a
climate modeller — our concerns about ice sheets
for instance come about precisely because we aren't yet capable of modelling them satisfactorily.
So Ray, another stab at an insight, something is going on here, it may be a small tweak and a useful lesson
for modellers OR it could point to a fundamental problem with our assumptions or ability to understand the VERY complex
climate system.
So what we have in the
climate change area (and what I find fascinating
for cynical reasons) is that everyone and their grandmother, whether they be lawyers, anthropologists, economists, semi-retired mineral engineers, poets, old academic codgers, weigh in on this scientific issue often with more aplomb and fanfare than the actual scientists (earth obs through
modellers) themselves.
[Response: That «
modeller» is me (I don't like that label, as I've done sea - going measurements and published papers on data analysis and theory — my topic is
climate, and models are just one tool
for its investigation).
For 15 years the prediction of warming resulting from a doubling of CO2 has varied by 300 % from 1.5 to 4.5 K.
For 15 years the
climate modellers have been claiming it will take them 15 years to get the clouds and aerosols right.
The test
for the
modellers is whether they reproduce many of the elements of
climate change over that period.
(Modelers) It's obvious that leaders hang on every word we utter we Call anyone who disagrees a mal - contented nutter we Forecast things
for foolish kings and not precocious toddlers We are the very model
for all Modern
Climate Modellers.
(Background chorus) They forecast things
for foolish kings and not precocious toddlers They are the very model
for all Modern
Climate Modellers.
(M1 & M2): We are the very model
for all modern Climate Modellers We forecast things for foolish kings and not precocious toddlers By using tricks that would excite a high priest of the Aztecs For example those subjective «priors» in Baysian stitastec
for all modern
Climate Modellers We forecast things
for foolish kings and not precocious toddlers By using tricks that would excite a high priest of the Aztecs For example those subjective «priors» in Baysian stitastec
for foolish kings and not precocious toddlers By using tricks that would excite a high priest of the Aztecs
For example those subjective «priors» in Baysian stitastec
For example those subjective «priors» in Baysian stitastecs??
This week, about 150 of the world's top
climate modellers have converged on Reading
for a four day meeting to plan a revolution in
climate prediction.
Stainforth explained how
climate modellers are told policymakers need local and regional scale predictions
for 40 years ahead to enable them to plan mitigation and adaptation.
In 2008 Tim Palmer, a leading
climate modeller at the European Centre
for Medium - Range Weather Forecasts in Reading England said in the New Scientist.
The 2nd Pan-GASS meeting sponsored by the ARC Centre of Excellence
for Climate System Science is focused on «Understanding and Modelling Atmospheric Processes» (UMAP) and aims to bring together NWP and climate scientists, observationalists and modellers to discuss the key issues of atmospheric science and to coordinate efforts to improve weather and climate
Climate System Science is focused on «Understanding and Modelling Atmospheric Processes» (UMAP) and aims to bring together NWP and
climate scientists, observationalists and modellers to discuss the key issues of atmospheric science and to coordinate efforts to improve weather and climate
climate scientists, observationalists and
modellers to discuss the key issues of atmospheric science and to coordinate efforts to improve weather and
climate climate models.
Accurate assessment of the influence of external
climate drivers requires explicit modelling of impact risk, not simply weather risk, so the project team works with impact
modellers across Africa to assess the implications of our weather simulations
for changing impact risk.
The reason
for the neutrality problem, as you can see from the Talk Page, is William Connelley — who is, amongst his other duties a Wikipedia Admin (which he abuses as much as he dares), an admin on RealClimate, a
climate modeller at the British Antarctic Survey (obviously consuming a very small part of his time), and a political candidate
for the Green Party in the UK.
The reason
for the neutrality problem, as you can see from the Talk Page, is William Connelley — who is, amongst his other duties a Wikipedia Admin (which he abuses as much as he dares), an admin on RealClimate, a
climate modeller at the British Antarctic Survey
For instance, Shackley et al., 1999 surveyed
climate modellers about one type of fudge factor, called a «flux adjustment», which was used by many of the
climate models in the 1990s.
For this reason, Shackley et al. found that many
climate modellers didn't want to talk openly about their adjustments, in case critics of man - made global warming (who they referred to as «
climate contrarians») would use them to question the reliability of the models:
But what do
climate modellers care
for such real - world scientific laws?
To me that's a recipe
for chaos, and if you look in any
climate modeller's library you will find many books on non-linear dynamics.
Because this is an implicit target
for any
climate model development and tuning, the selection of such subjective criteria mimics a suite of models, which will be treated by other
modellers as suitable
for climate studies.
I'm not a
climate modeller but with a bit of literature search I could find out what kind of subgrid models they use
for the ocean and atmosphere.
«Of course there are gaps in our knowledge about Earth's
climate system and its components, and yes, nothing has been made clear enough to the public,» says Gavin Schmidt, a
climate modeller at NASA's Goddard Institute
for Space Studies in New York and one of the moderators and contributors to the influential RealClimate blog.
«There is this mismatch between what the
climate models are producing and what the observations are showing,» says lead author John Fyfe, a climate modeller at the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis in Victoria, British Co
climate models are producing and what the observations are showing,» says lead author John Fyfe, a
climate modeller at the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis in Victoria, British Co
climate modeller at the Canadian Centre
for Climate Modelling and Analysis in Victoria, British Co
Climate Modelling and Analysis in Victoria, British Columbia.
Dr. Gavin Schmidt is a
climate modeller at NASA's Goddard Institute
for Space Studies, as well as the editor at RealClimate.
«You need to be very circumspect about the added value of downscaling to regional impacts,» agrees Hans von Storch, a
climate modeller at the GKSS Institute
for Coastal Research in Geesthacht, Germany, who has recently contributed to a regional
climate assessment of the Hamburg metropolitan region.
I would be the last one to suggest that there isn't more uncertainty in a system with the internal dynamics of the Earth's
climate — and much more scope
for severe and rapid change than even the
modellers contemplate.
This should, in theory, lead to more realistic projections
for the future, but many of the
climate modellers I spoke to were keen to point out that simulating the
climate with more complex models may well lead to greater uncertainty about what the future holds.
Dr. David Evans, a former
climate modeller for the Australian government's Greenhouse Office, says he found two mathematical errors showing that the IPCC «over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times.»
«Tracking down anomalies and dealing with them are therefore the number one pre-occupation of the custodians of those data sets,» says Gavin Schmidt, a
climate modeller at the NASA Goddard Institute
for Space Studies in New York, US.
Give me a couple of those billions of US dollars you
climate modellers have, and I will give you the data and present the result at same time as 5AR;-P It does not hurt to be open
for other possible truth than the old progress all the time... And take this issue into the IPCC and ask whether there is institutional and other mechanisms that run contrary to self - correction....
And if
for example a
climate modeller (lets call him «Gavin» just
for fun) were to hear that his work was being misrepresented I'm sure he'd run post haste to the nearest media outlet to denounce those who wilfully do so.
I'd be reassured to see
climate modellers hammering on how detailed interesting regularities in experimental data (existing or wished -
for) are explained or predicted by their model: something like the (honestly exasperated) way biologists refer to all the megabytes of detail revealed by DNA sequencing and other molecular biology which just keeps matching the constraints of Darwin's model.
Gavin Schmidt, 38 and British, is a
climate modeller at the Nasa Goddard Institute
for Space Studies in New York.