Finally, there is no good reason to widen the range, even though some studies have pointed to the possibility of higher climate sensitivity — but as we have discussed here, they did not provide positive evidence
for a higher climate sensitivity, they merely showed that the data constraints used were weak.
With the models being the main «evidence»
for high climate sensitivities and a net positive feedback to CO2 forcing, they do not need yet another correlated diagnostic failure.
It seems clear that temperature increases seen so far do not provide any evidence
for a high climate sensitivity.
Not exact matches
«If the true
climate sensitivity really is as
high as 5 degrees C -LSB-(9 degrees F)-RSB-, the only way our descendants will find that out is if they stubbornly hold greenhouse gas concentrations constant
for centuries at our target stabilization level.»
«Thus it appears that the Pinatubo cooling favours
high climate sensitivity,» say Hansen and his colleagues in a study
for a forthcoming issue of the journal National Geographic Research and Exploration.
If they would use a more realistic
climate transfer
sensitivity of 0.11 K / Wm -2, or even somewhat
higher (0.12 or 0.13)
for the long - term, and use trends instead of smooth curve points, they would end up with solar contributions of 10 % or less
for 1950 - 2000 and near 0 % and about 10 % in 1980 - 2000 using the PMOD and ACRIM data, respectively.
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Climate probably has a
higher sensitivity for solar than
for CO2,
for the same change in forcing.
Just
for the sake of illustration, though, here's one scenario where
higher Holocene variability could go along with lower
climate sensitivity: Suppose that some unknown stabilizing mechanism makes the real world less sensitive to radiative forcing than our current models.
Thus it is very important to know what the real impact of historical solar changes is, as 0.1 K in the past, results in
climate sensitivity for anthropogenic at the
high end, while 0.9 K results in a very low effect of anthropogenic, if the instrumental temperature trend of the last 1.5 century is used as reference.
Note that the old GISS model had a
climate sensitivity that was a little
higher (4.2 ºC
for a doubling of CO2) than the best estimate (~ 3ºC) and as stated in previous years, the actual forcings that occurred are not the same as those used in the different scenarios.
Hansen's model assumed a rather
high climate sensitivity of 4.2 °C
for a doubling of CO2.
For example, we know the past CO2 radiative forcing to very high accuracy, but there are more uncertainties in the aerosol forcing; applying a consistent climate sensitivity to both CO2 and aerosols, you can get a match to the observed record for a range of different supposed aerosol forcings, but you can't take it too f
For example, we know the past CO2 radiative forcing to very
high accuracy, but there are more uncertainties in the aerosol forcing; applying a consistent
climate sensitivity to both CO2 and aerosols, you can get a match to the observed record
for a range of different supposed aerosol forcings, but you can't take it too f
for a range of different supposed aerosol forcings, but you can't take it too far.
Rather, their analysis shows that if you compare the LGM land cooling with the model land cooling, then the model that fits the land best has much
higher GLOBAL
climate sensitivity than you get
for best fit if you use ocean data.
It seems to me we should use the
higher values
for climate sensitivity, including the slower feedbacks,
for a complete assessment of risks upto the seventh generation, so to speak.
«We indicated 23 years ago — in our 1994 Nature article — that
climate models had the atmosphere's
sensitivity to CO2 much too
high,» said Christy, the lead author in the study, which has been accepted
for publication in the 2017 fourth quarter edition of the Asia - Pacific Journal of Atmospheric Sciences and is available online.
(in general, whether
for future projections or historical reconstructions or estimates of
climate sensitivity, I tend to be sympathetic to arguments of more rather than less uncertainty because I feel like in general, models and statistical approaches are not exhaustive and it is «plausible» that additional factors could lead to either
higher or lower estimates than seen with a single approach.
Given the number of ways that things can go wrong with continued CO2 emissions (from ocean acidfication and sea level rise to simple warming, shifting precipitation patterns, release of buried carbon in perma - frost, and the possibility of
higher climate sensitivities — which seem to be needed to account
for glacial / inter-glacial transitions), crossing our fingers and carrying on with BAU seems nothing short of crazy to me.
The need
for prompt (urgent) action implied by these realities may not be a surprise to the relevant scientific community, because paleoclimate data revealed
high climate sensitivity and the dominance of amplifying feedbacks.
On a more serious note, the problem
for journalists (if they know what they are doing) in reporting a range of results
for climate sensitivity is that the low end is ho - hum, but the
higher end is more interesting.
The possibility of there existing a plausible model with such a
high sensitivity is of such overarching importance, I would have liked to have seen one such model chosen, and to have available all of the standard runs being provided
for the IPCC Fourth Assessment by the major modeling centers, in the same format used by those models, so that the
climate community could judge
for itself the plausibility of this model's
climate simulation.
Because
high latitudes are thought to be most sensitive to greenhouse gas forcing owing to,
for example, ice - albedo feedbacks, we focus on the tropical Pacific Ocean to derive a minimum value
for long - term
climate sensitivity.
My complaint concerns the putative conclusions that the narrator makes concerning
climate sensitivity and the implications
for the
high end IPCC scenarios.
This gives a range of
climate sensitivity that is much larger than the IPCC range (1.5 to 4.5 deg C
for a doubling of CO2), and which therefore translates to wider bounds on possible
climate projections both at the
high end and low end.
As stated last year, the Scenario B in that paper is running a little
high compared with the actual forcings growth (by about 10 %)(and
high compared to A1B), and the old GISS model had a
climate sensitivity that was a little
higher (4.2 ºC
for a doubling of CO2) than the best estimate (~ 3ºC).
Analysis of the Pliocene (c.f. the Nature geoscience article by Lunt et al) would tend to support total
climate sensitivities at or even beyond the
high end of the IPCC range (I make that about 4.5 C
for a doubling, extrapolating from Lunt's Pliocene warming).
The low
sensitivity you quote is just as incredible as the
high numbers discussed above (think about what it would imply
for the glacial
climate).
This is enough to matter, but it's no more scary than the uncertainty in cloud feedbacks
for example, and whether they could put us on the
high end of typical
climate sensitivity estimates.
I've heard that
sensitivity for current conditions is probably
higher, but regardless, isn't that the first thing one would want answered about
climate sensitivity?
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Climate probably has a
higher sensitivity for solar than
for CO2,
for the same change in forcing.
The
high end of current estimates
for climate sensitivity are already in very negative and serious terratory.
If aerosol forcing is
high, then reconciling with recent warming demands very
high climate sensitivity (which you see realized after the aerosols go away)-- and that would indeed mean we may have already passed the threshold
for 2C warming.
also suggsts a
higher climate sensitivity than 3C as do a multitude of papers looking at the past
climates and there must be a lag in temperature rise and tree invasion of regions which might well mean that Northern areas are actually hotter than they have been
for a long time, it just taking time
for the proxies to catch up by growing.
Just
for the sake of illustration, though, here's one scenario where
higher Holocene variability could go along with lower
climate sensitivity: Suppose that some unknown stabilizing mechanism makes the real world less sensitive to radiative forcing than our current models.
Conversely, if «
climate sensitivity»
for a doubling of CO2 is based on recent measurements and CO rates, and past natural variability is underestimated — as you've shown here — then this implies our estimates of
sensitivity per CO2 doubling is too
high, not too low.
What's new is that several recent papers have offered best estimates
for climate sensitivity that are below four degrees Fahrenheit, rather than the previous best estimate of just above five degrees, and they have also suggested that the
highest estimates are pretty implausible.
Even with almost no chance of the
high end of
climate sensitivity estimates being right, the odds of substantial, prolonged and disruptive
climate change (and changes in ocean chemistry) are still plenty
high enough to justify a sustained push toward an energy menu that works
for the long haul.
Since 1990, observed sea level has followed the uppermost uncertainty limit of the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) Third Assessment Report (TAR), which was constructed by assuming the highest emission scenario combined with the highest climate sensitivity and adding an ad hoc amount of sea - level rise for «ice sheet uncertainty&raqu
Climate Change (IPCC) Third Assessment Report (TAR), which was constructed by assuming the
highest emission scenario combined with the
highest climate sensitivity and adding an ad hoc amount of sea - level rise for «ice sheet uncertainty&raqu
climate sensitivity and adding an ad hoc amount of sea - level rise
for «ice sheet uncertainty» (1).
«Our results indicate that the [divergence problem]-- including
high - frequency loss in
climate sensitivity and / or low - frequency trend offset — must be addressed at the local to regional level, before conclusions can be drawn
for larger scales.
This
sensitivity is often represented by the equilibrium
climate sensitivity, but this quantity is poorly constrained with significant probabilities
for high values.
And then there's the even
higher Earth System
Climate Sensitivity based on slower feedbacks, hovering around 6 °C / doubling,
for a rise of 24 °C with four doublings.
When the reseachers at the Center
for International
Climate and Environmental Research — Oslo (CICERO) applied their computer «model and statistics to analyse temperature readings from the air and ocean for the period ending in 2000, they found that climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentration will most likely be 3.7 °C, which is somewhat higher than the IPCC prognosis.
Climate and Environmental Research — Oslo (CICERO) applied their computer «model and statistics to analyse temperature readings from the air and ocean
for the period ending in 2000, they found that
climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentration will most likely be 3.7 °C, which is somewhat higher than the IPCC prognosis.
climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentration will most likely be 3.7 °C, which is somewhat
higher than the IPCC prognosis.»
There appears to be plenty of evidence
for some places being warmer than today in the MWP, and whilst most studies say that globally it wasn't warmer it seems that scientists still want more data to be sure (and if it was warmer, that might suggest
higher climate sensitivity).
Moreover, and significantly, the fact that they are already doing so is strong evidence that the overall
sensitivity of the
climate system is quite
high, and that stabilization concentrations that were even recently considered to be manageably safe — 450 ppmCO2eq
for example — are in fact quite dangerous.
In this light paleo research is very important too — as indeed when one looks at
high - CO2 warm periods (
for instance in the Tertiary) some data seems to suggest a
climate sensitivity that would be somewhat
higher than the IPCC range.
When I looked at historic temperature and CO2 levels, it was impossible
for me to see how they could be in any way consistent with the
high climate sensitivities that were coming out of the IPCC models.
And with
high climate sensitivity, a risk - averse target
for 2 ˚C is around 350ppm CO2e — and all this is necessary just to meet a 2 ˚C target that is actually dangerous.
He takes it as a proven given that temperature
sensitivity to CO2 will be
high, over ten degrees F
for the likely CO2 increases we will see in the next century, which puts his «proven»
climate sensitivity number
higher than the range even in the last IPCC report.
As components of the global cryosphere, mountain glaciers are known
for their
high sensitivity to
climate change.
Finally, we have not yet taken note here of Shindell»14 «Inhomogeneous forcing and transient
climate sensitivity» which makes a very strong case not only
for the unexpected aerosol loading from China being the culprit
for the divergence, but also, unfortunately,
for the case that a rather
high sensitivity is a logical consequence of that explanation.
This assumption is based on
climate model results that gave
high climate sensitivity for doubling of CO2 by smoothing out all the oscillation in GMST before the 1970s and leaving untouched the warming phase of the oscillation since then and calling it man - made global warming as shown below.