I'm told 100 meters depth is too shallow
for methane hydrate formation, in the absence of glaciation.
Can you point out to me where the record demonstrates anything near the kind of rapidity of changes being claimed anecdotally
for methane hydrate dissolution?
Most of the shelf is too shallow
for methane hydrates, Thornton says.
The stability zones
for methane hydrates have been well understood for a long time.
Off the Washington and Oregon coast, 168 bubble plumes had been detected in the past 10 years, a disproportionate number of which were found at a critical depth
for methane hydrates» stability.
I suppose coal seams are also often only a few inches thick and prospectors will go to the trouble of blowing off mountaintops to get at the coal, yet that seems almost like a sane plan compared to what people have as pipe dreams
for methane hydrates.
There is a sink
for methane hydrates.
Not exact matches
Hydrates have shaped the history of our planet: by locking away
methane produced in the earth's crust instead of allowing it to accumulate in the atmosphere, they helped to make the earth a hospitable place
for life.
Taken together, they also provide a potential explanation
for the so - called memory effect — the fact that «aqueous solutions in contact with
methane form solid
methane hydrate at a much faster rate if they have already undergone a
methane hydrate formation - decomposition cycle,» said Alavi, almost as if the
hydrate «remembers» its previous state.
One was
Hydrate Ridge, selected
for its large
methane deposits and the unusual chemosynthetic organisms that thrive on top of them.
This created massive craters that are still actively seeping
methane» says Karin Andreassen, first author of the study and professor at CAGE Centre
for Arctic Gas
Hydrate, Environment and Climate.
A crew of a dozen sailors, a geophysics professor, and two graduate students, we were combing the ocean floor
for buried
methane hydrate, an ice - like form of natural gas estimated to be more abundant than fossil fuels.
(
For more on naturally occurring
hydrates, see «Will the
Methane Bubble Burst?»
Gargantuan stores of gas
hydrates under the oceans and permafrost regions of the globe have many scientists wondering whether they can find an economically feasible way to unlock the
methane, creating a natural gas supply that could last
for centuries.
One hypothesis
for the slide was that an earthquake caused the
methane hydrates in the region to become unstable and to explosively release their gas.
This is bad news
for oil prospectors drilling in permafrost: if they encounter a pocket of
hydrates, the released
methane could rupture their drilling equipment.
«While a logical suspect
for arctic
methane emissions is degrading
hydrates, there are several other potential
methane sources.
Gas
hydrates — a mixture of ice and
methane — are found only under high pressure and at cold temperatures, and they are expected to make up a significant portion of the energy mix once existing oil fields dwindle, says David Scott, manager of the Northern Resources Development Program
for Natural Resources Canada.
For example, data from this study has been used to examine the evolution of gas
hydrate stability within the Eurasian Arctic over glacial timescales, exploring the development of massive mounds and
methane blow - out craters that have been recently discovered on the Arctic seafloor.
Dlugokencky, in an e-mail, wrote there have been «no significant increases in Arctic emissions over the past few decades» and that it would take «centuries»
for warming to affect
methane hydrate — bearing sediments.
Methane hydrates, after all, were largely responsible
for corrupting the containment dome intended to stop the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill rising from the ocean bottom; the viscous mixture clogged the dome and a redirection pipe intended to take leaking oil to a tanker waiting above.
Most
methane hydrates are buried in ocean water so deep that the journey through the water column is too far
for the gas to ever reach the atmosphere, according to Ed Dlugokencky, a researcher at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Tapping into thawing permafrost
for methane — which does not necessarily mean
methane hydrates — would also present similar risks in producing conventional natural gas.
A June 2017 study by the Center
for Arctic, Gas
Hydrate, Environment and Climate (CAGE) concluded those unexpected
methane blasts, rather than gradual releases, are a big problem.
Once formed by either serpentinization or microbes,
methane could be stored as a stable clathrate
hydrate — a chemical structure that traps
methane molecules like animals in a cage —
for later release to the atmosphere, perhaps by gradual outgassing through cracks and fissures or by episodic bursts triggered by volcanism.
Boulder, Colo., USA: Cretaceous climate warming led to a significant
methane release from the seafloor, indicating potential
for similar destabilization of gas
hydrates under modern global warming.
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For climate purposes, the problem is coal (and maybe methane hydrates)-- there is more than enough fossil fuel reserves for the IPCC scenari
For climate purposes, the problem is coal (and maybe
methane hydrates)-- there is more than enough fossil fuel reserves
for the IPCC scenari
for the IPCC scenarios.
Umbertoluca Ranieri, PhD student at ILL and EPFL, and lead author of this study says: «These results are important in improving our understanding of many fundamental non-equilibrium phenomena involving
methane clathrate
hydrates;
for example, the replacement kinetics during gas exchange in case of conversion between the clathrate structures I and II.
My research indicates that the Siberian peat moss, Arctic tundra, and methal
hydrates (frozen
methane at the bottom of the ocean) all have an excellent chance of melting and releasing their stored co2.Recent
methane concentration figures also hit the news last week, and
methane has increased after a long time being steady.The forests of north america are drying out and are very susceptible to massive insect infestations and wildfires, and the massive die offs - 25 % of total forests, have begun.And, the most recent stories on the Amazon forecast that with the change in rainfall patterns one third of the Amazon will dry and turn to grassland, thereby creating a domino cascade effect
for the rest of the Amazon.With co2 levels risng faster now that the oceans have reached carrying capacity, the oceans having become also more acidic, and the looming threat of a North Atlanic current shutdown (note the recent terrible news on salinity upwelling levels off Greenland,) and the change in cold water upwellings, leading to far less biomass
for the fish to feed upon, all lead to the conclusion we may not have to worry about NASA completing its inventory of near earth objects greater than 140 meters across by 2026 (Recent Benjamin Dean astronomy lecture here in San Francisco).
Here, we report on advances made in
methane hydrate research and deep - ocean Raman spectroscopy, and on proposals
for fossil fuel CO2 sequestration and on controlled ocean acidification studies.
The required additional fossil fuels will involve exploitation of tar sands, tar shale, hydrofracking
for oil and gas, coal mining, drilling in the Arctic, Amazon, deep ocean, and other remote regions, and possibly exploitation of
methane hydrates.
Seems to me we heard
for a long time the «
methane emergency... shallow
hydrates» story repeated — and now the «shallow
hydrates» term has dropped out of the claims (except
for the copypasted repetition of old stories).
Recent studies have therefore preferred mechanismsthat require a climatological trigger
for carbon injection,
for example through enhance - 5 ment of seasonal extremes that caused changes in ocean circulation, which in turncould dissociate submarine
methane hydrates (Lunt et al., 2011).
Methane hydrates have been on everyone's radar
for some time.
Mark, do a google scholar search on Semiletov or Shakhova
for recent work on
methane hydrates.
If an anthropogenic thermal anomaly this century will eventually (and inexorably) propogate to and destabalize significant amounts of
methane hydrates in future centuries — shouldn't this be a consideration
for policy makers?
As you might expect, the hypothesis that
methane hydrates was a contributor to the PETM has been kicking around
for a while.
At 0 degrees C, you need a pressure equivalent to ~ 250 meters of water depth to get enough dissolved
methane for hydrate to form.
• Similarly, Eillott et al (2011), Reagan (2011) and Reagan and Moridis (2008),
for the equivalent of RCP 8.5 50 % CL
methane emissions from global marine
methane hydrates could be 0.3 GtCH4 / yr by 2100.
It takes a long time to warm the deep ocean and the clathrate zone, and no one has proposed a mechanism
for getting much
methane release from
hydrates in the coming century.
(
Methane hydrate can be found close to the sediment surface in deeper water depth settings, as
for example in the Gulf of Mexico or the Nankai trough).
Generally, there are indications that if we reach 4 to 6C rise there is a chance possibly
for larger
methane hydrate release once the oceans warm up.
Flaming ice,
methane hydrate, could make Japan energy self - sufficient as fracking has done
for the USA.
For this feature, however, I don't think
methane hydrate would have been stable, unless it was deeper than a few hundred meters (depending on the surface temperature.
Plumes of rising
methane bubbles have been mapped off the coast of Svalbard to where the water is about 400 meters deep — the edge of the stability zone
for hydrates.
Throw in a huge uncertainty as to whether commercial exploitation of
methane hydrates is possible and what impact that may have, I am quite comfortable in projecting a range of variations
for CH4 levels in 100 years time.
It works just as welling
for fracking (or sea - floor
methane hydrate)
for that matter: Just because you end up using, say, half the energy you dig out of the ground (or sea - bottom) in the extraction process doesn't mean that, given modern automation, the entire process can't be controlled by a few thousand people, working short hours in comfortable, climate - controlled, environments.
Through a combination of sediment cores analyses and ice - sheet modelling, the study shows that this area has probably been steadily leaking
methane from
hydrates for 8000 years.
These look to be sufficient to supply energy
for hundreds of years — even without accessing even more «unconventional» sources such as
methane hydrates.
«Our investigations show that uplift of the sea floor in this region, caused by the melting of the ice masses since the end of the last ice age, is probably the reason
for the dissolution of
methane hydrate.»