Foukal et al did not claim to show that solar
forcing has no effect on climate, merely that there is no positive evidence for a longer term forcing larger than seen over the 11 year cycle.
Not exact matches
Earlier studies
on the sensitivity of tropical cyclones to past
climates have only analyzed the
effect of changes in the solar radiation from orbital
forcing on the formation of tropical cyclones, without considering the feedbacks associated to the consequent greening of the Sahara.
This attempt at quantification of the many different
forces effect on the
climate has re-emphasized the complexity of the
climate system and the simultaneous interaction of many influences.
Now if this was the 1980s they might
have had a point, but the fact that aerosols are an important
climate forcing,
have a net cooling
effect on climate and, in part, arise from the same industrial activities that produce greenhouse gases,
has been part of mainstream science for 30 years.
The indirect aerosol
effect on clouds is non-linear [1], [76] such that it
has been suggested that even the modest aerosol amounts added by pre-industrial humans to an otherwise pristine atmosphere may
have caused a significant
climate forcing [59].
Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN): Since homophobia and heterosexism undermine a healthy school
climate, GLSEN works to educate teachers, students and the public at large about the damaging
effects these
forces have on youth and adults alike.
From the Physical Science Basis: «Shindell et al. (2009) estimated the impact of reactive species emissions
on both gaseous and aerosol
forcing species and found that ozone precursors, including methane,
had an additional substantial
climate effect because they increased or decreased the rate of oxidation of SO2 to sulphate aerosol.
Through paleo -
climate simulations for the last millennium with
climate models, a number of alternate
forcing histories for volcanic and solar changes
have been proposed to see their
effect on past
climate variations.
One can see a number of basic flaws here; the complete lack of appreciation of the importance of natural variability
on short time scales, the common but erroneous belief that any attribution of past
climate change to solar or other
forcing means that CO2
has no radiative
effect, and a hopeless lack of familiarity of the basic science of detection and attribution.
For instance, closing the Isthmus of Panama (4.5 millions years ago) was obviously a
forcing that likely
had profound
effects on the
climate — it wouldn't be easy to characterise in radiative terms though.
Some attribution assessments that link events to dynamically driven changes in circulation
have been criticized
on the grounds that small signal - to - noise ratios, modeling deficiencies, and uncertainties in the
effects of
climate forcings on circulation render conclusions unreliable and prone to downplaying the role of anthropogenic change.
I
had been preparing comments to explain — how LW radiative
forcing (greenhouse
effect) works, why
forcing from CO2 is approximately linearly proportional to CO2 at sufficiently small amounts of CO2 and approximately logarithmically proportional to CO2 within a range of larger amounts, and then how the
climate responds to
forcings, but that got very very long and so I'm going to hold off
on that.
[Dr. Carling
has] the complete lack of appreciation of the importance of natural variability
on short time scales, the -LSB-...] erroneous belief that any attribution of past
climate change to -LSB-...] other [than CO2]
forcing means that CO2
has no radiative
effect, and a hopeless lack of familiarity of the basic science of detection and attribution.
Right now, since we do not
have accurate
forcing functions for any of these factors going back to the medieval period it is difficult to say with any precision which one (or combination) caused the
climate change and what
effects that
had on CO2.
3 - These assumptions themselves are based
on assumptions (that internal
forcings have no influence and that
forcing is external and that we understand the
effects this will
have - inc.
climate sensitivity) 4 - THESE assumptions are based
on the assumption that we know enough about the system to make these sort of judgements.
The
effect of this mixed dust - pollution plume
on the Pacific cloud systems and the associated radiative
forcing is an outstanding problem for understanding
climate change and
has not been explored.
PHYS.org: Changes in solar radiation, known as solar
forcing,
have had only a very small
effect on climate change, a member of the UN's top panel of
climate scientists said today.
Cutting down forests
has reduced the planet's CO2 absorption capacity, and other land use changes
have had a net
forcing effect on climate.
If we could get a much better handle
on the causes,
effects, and timing of the natural variability, thus removing more of the unknowns from the weather /
climate equation, it
would be much easier to see the actual amounts of CO2
forcing.
In
effect, they
have traced
climate history back to a very different world, long before the European discovery of America; a world in which Christian crusaders fought the Saracen
forces for control of Jerusalem; in which the armies of Byzantium held the eastern Roman Empire against assault from the Turks; in which the temples of Angkor Wat were first built; in which work
on the great cathedrals of Europe began; in which Venice began to emerge as a great maritime power; in which the first European universities began to take shape.
Combining these
forcing periods, you
would expect that, over extended periods of time, the
effects of extreme proxigean spring tides should manifest themselves in the
climate indices
on time scales that are set by the beat periods between these two fundamental time scales.
We instead conclude that solar
forcing probably
had a minor
effect on Northern Hemisphere
climate over the past 1,000 years, while, volcanic eruptions and changes in greenhouse gas concentrations seem to be the most important influence over this period.
Clouds» impact
on climate would obviously change as the world warms (a feedback) but, if solar - magnetic
effects change clouds, as now seems likely, clouds could also drive
climate change (a
forcing).6, 7
Also,
would it be correct to interpret POGA - C as the indirect
effect on global temperatures of
climate forcing in the Tropical East Pacific?
But including aerosol indirect
effects on radiative
forcing has made it easier to generate a greater variety of 20th century simulations without affecting other aspects of the
climate simulation as strongly.
«More CO2 promotes more plant growth both
on land and throughout the surface waters of the world's oceans, and this vast assemblage of plant life
has the ability to affect Earth's
climate in several ways, almost all of them tending to counteract the heating
effects of CO2's thermal radiative
forcing.»
Practically, more deep - ocean involvement does
have an
effect on equilibrium
climate sensitivity, but it
has a much larger
effect on transient
climate sensitivity (which is a more relevant parameter for discussions of anthropogenically
forced climate change).
«Errors in external
forcing data (Santer et al's preferred explanation) Internal variability (which
has been supported by numerous previous studies, including posts at CE) Values of CO2
climate sensitivity that are too high (interesting new post
on this over at ClimateAudit) Missing physical processes in the
climate models (e.g. solar indirect
effects).»
Jim
D: The
forcing change under BAU in the 21st century will be 2.5 times that in the 20th century, so even if it was (dubiously) only 50 % then, it will be that much larger going forwards, and should be easily the dominant
effect on climate.
Changes in solar radiation, known as solar
forcing,
have had only a very small
effect on climate change, a member of the UN's top panel of
climate scientists said today.
Climate change is already
having «pervasive, wide - ranging»
effects on «nearly every aspect of our society,» a task
force representing more than 20 federal agencies reported Tuesday.
This new NASA paper builds upon those previous studies by better quantifying the efficiencies of different
forcings over the historical period and the
effect this
has on energy budget approach
climate sensitivity estimates.
Climate Science however was established with the premise that humans are having a catastrophic effect on the climate, primarily by forcing global warming through the emission of ACO2, and charged with the mission of confirm
Climate Science however was established with the premise that humans are
having a catastrophic
effect on the
climate, primarily by forcing global warming through the emission of ACO2, and charged with the mission of confirm
climate, primarily by
forcing global warming through the emission of ACO2, and charged with the mission of confirming it.
Any
climate forcing (whether natural or human induced)
would be so strongly damped as to hardly
have any
effect on global temperatures.
I am assuming Scafetta
has not analyzed the
forces from Jupiter and Saturn to see what
effect they might
have on Earth low frequency (
climate) ocean up / downwelling cycles or anything like that.
Forster et al. (2007) described four mechanisms by which volcanic
forcing influences
climate: RF due to aerosol — radiation interaction; differential (vertical or horizontal) heating, producing gradients and changes in circulation; interactions with other modes of circulation, such as El Niño - Southern Oscillation (ENSO); and ozone depletion with its
effects on stratospheric heating, which depends
on anthropogenic chlorine (stratospheric ozone
would increase with a volcanic eruption under low - chlorine conditions).
Clouds are not a
forcing of the
climate system (except for the small portion related to human related aerosol
effects, which
have a small
effect on clouds).
It's only tangentially related to
climate change discussions, but a microclimate in Death Valley, California
has given rise to some interesting physical
effects and much controversy regarding the ways big heavy rocks can be seen to
have moved around
on the bottom of a playa lake, untouched by external, unnatural
forces.