Rights are one area where there is a huge positive difference
from trad pub.
Under certain conditions authors can request the book's rights back, which is very different
from trad pub.
If the work had merit they would coordinate setting the author up with all those necessary functions normally expected
from trad pub like cover development, final copy edit, marketing and promotion, adding the polish to take a book indie with better chance of success.
Howey, Konrath, etc. are inspiring — but they had a fan base
from trad pub before they went indie.
Pretty sure I'd choose to make a black and white change
from the trad pub titles to my own pubbed titles.
It's one thing to say that indie publishing is a successful alternative to trad publishing and worth pursuing, and that there are notable success stories — especially among trained, highly motivated authors — most of them with established name
from trad pub backgrounds.
It's also worth noting that the author of the AE report, Hugh Howey, admitted in comments on Chuck Wendig's blog (fourth down) that actually he earned more
from trad pub last year that he did from Amazon.
Most authors who go with
them from Trad Pub speak very highly of them.
I get that I'm supposed to be more upset about this paid review service, but what Locke did doesn't look different to me than Kirkus Reviews (and, as you point out, other favor trades
from trad pubbing that are entrenched and go unremarked.)
Personally, I can see myself ending up a hybrid author because while my novels might benefit
from trad pubbing, I can't see my poetry finding a home there.
(However that is determined) This, more than anything, probably accounts for a lot of wretched, nasty contract terms and disrespectful attitudes
from trad pubs — from their point of view they're risking bankruptcy with every copy out the door.
Not exact matches
I agree completely with Jackie Barbosa above in that the real takeaway
from this snippet of data is the unconscionably huge portion of earnings that the
trad pubs get
from each ebook they sell.
I was discussing this with someone yesterday, going back and forth at possible explanations, which included that self -
pubbed authors tend to work the review mines harder than their
trad pubbed peers, or have more support
from other indie authors reviewing, or get higher ratings due to the generally lower price of the work (greater satisfaction due to a price / performance expectation).
A self -
pubbed book should be indistinguishable
from trad.
This year I received responses
from a total of 227 authors, representing 2,594 indie titles of which 1928 were frontlist indie titles and 666 were backlist (
trad -
pubbed, now indie) titles, assuming no duplicates (see above).
I make my living
from writing, actually, with a mix of indie and
trad pub stuff, but there are people who are far more skilled than me who don't, and people who stink who make a lot more.
I'll never need a publisher, and moving
from self -
pub to
trad would be neither a natural progression nor a sensible business choice.
Others aren't entirely satisfied with their
trad -
pub experience, but they feel it's preferable to setting out on their own and having to do everything
from editing to cover design to promotion on their own.
I've been fielding emails for years
from readers asking why that book was priced so high when the rest of the books in the series (this is the series that started out in
trad pub and that is now self
pub) ranged
from free to about $ 4.99.
Elizabeth, I have learnt much
from your post about «
trad pub» and «self -
pub,» especially since I'm working on my own fiction.
I went to an author talk by a
trad pubbed author and she had to buy a copy of her own book at the bookstore because her contract doesn't allow her to buy copies of her own book at a discount
from the publisher.
However, we know they're elitists
from things they've said in the past about self - published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
I seem to be perfectly able to separate out good indie reads
from bad ones and really I'd have to go through that process of elimination with
trad pubbed books as well.
Also — Buying a loaf of bread
from the supermarket is like buying a
trad pub book
from B&N.
When a
trad -
pub book weighs in at $ 9.99 and you can buy somewhere between two to four times as much reading material
from Indie authors, the choice seems obvious.
Literary fiction never did well in indie publishing because it depends on reviews
from the big, well known journals like the New Yorker, the NYT book review, the TLS, the Guardian, the NY Review of Books, etc, and they only review
trad pub.
Perhaps the article isn't sending the not - too - subtle message that indie authors suck, thus their reviews must be fake, or at least suspect, thus the only way to save yourself the grief is to buy
trad pub books, which have paid reviews
from the shills who do it for a living... er... never mind.
I'll answer by repeating Shawn's point, that a surprising proportion of readers wouldn't know a
trad -
pub from a self -
pub author.
I've yet to hear
from an author who went self -
pubbed to
trad -
pubbed and is over the moon with excitement.
She wrote for
trad pubs for years and I got the sense
from her that not being in the block buster category (though doing quite well by most standards!)
Continue reading
From Trad -
Pub to Self -
Pub — Tips and Observations →
Meg — It is a huge advantage to bring over our readers
from trad -
pub to self -
pub... no question.
The reviews that take the place of those earned by
trad pubbed authors
from the trades?
Did these authors» books change
from when they were self -
pubbed to when they became
trads?
As I close in on 50 novels published, I don't think I'm suffering
from a lack of my work being available, so see no reason to kill myself on more than a novel every quarter, which in
trad pub circles would be considered near miraculous, and for me would be a vacation.
The more I read about
trad -
pub, and the more unsatisfactory new releases I read
from that system, the less I question its value.
Trad -
Pub Authors: Launch Big or Die In 2012, Rachelle Gardner noted the typical advance for a first - time traditionally published author is $ 5,000 - $ 15,000 per book, and most of those first - time authors do not sell through their advance, so that is all the money they will ever get
from that book.
But more importantly, indie authors have forever to make that money, whereas
trad -
pub authors have a few months to Launch Big or get pulled
from the physical shelves.
While many authors have focused on indie publishing the novels that were originally
trad -
pub bound, we're just beginning to move into the era where works are being created solely,
from conception to completion, for publication as ebooks.
Boo hoo, all the authors (
trad pub) interviewed vilifying Amazon, talking about how Amazon is so big, mean, terrible, stealing money and food and possibly even sex
from them.
From most of the conversations I've seen (with a few exceptions, including this article and discussion), the two sides seem to be: «The Dinosaur of
Trad Pub is Going Down!
Because the idea of having a herd of turtles (lots of titles available, expanding your digital footprint) is being picked up by
trad -
pub (
from indies, who are proving it a way to boost book sales).
I've met a lot of authors
from the
trad world who weren't happy with their covers, the relationship with the editor, or lack of overall marketing support, and while I think indie
pub may be more work than some people want to put in, it bears serious consideration.
The other is that since Amazon got lower prices
from trad publishers, the price of
trad pubbed books is through the floor.
Something that seems frequently absent
from these discussions is the unit revenue differences between SP and
trad -
pub.
As a self publisher, I really don't do that much more work than I hear
from my
trad -
pub brothers and sisters.
Lawyer David Vandagriff, who runs The Passive Voice and who comments using the handle Passive Guy, said it was «interesting how little many of these big - selling
trad pub authors understand about the book business», claiming that this came
from «listening to what their publishers and agents tell them».
Once e-books became a reality, there was no way to stop an indie market
from developing, because there are too many people who wanted to write who never got accepted by
trad pub.
Despite the frustration and bitterness they hear
from their
trad -
pub - aspiring or
trad -
pub - abandoning peers, these indie writers are sanguine.
Ruth and I get lots of email
from fledgling authors, both indie and
trad -
pubbed.