Although water vapour is a greenhouse
gas it had no warming effect at the surface where the vapour simply acquired the same temperature as the surrounding air molecules.
«If they are right, no greenhouse
gas has any warming effect on any planet.
To me all the witnesses and senators are obviously persons of consequence but I don't think your excerpt shows that anyone should think he takes issue with this statement — «No one questions that surface temperatures have increased overall since 1880, or that humans are adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, or that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse
gases have a warming effect on the planet.»
Not exact matches
But the reactive
gases emitted by trees can also increase the amounts of ozone and methane, both greenhouse
gases which
have warming effects on the climate.
«It is widely understood that aerosols
have a net cooling
effect on climate, counteracting the
warming caused by greenhouse
gases.
Much of the damage will
have been done by the year 2010, it says, and the rest by 2070, when the predicted
effects of global
warming from emissions of greenhouse
gases will
have done their worst.
Indeed, the reduction in the emission of precursors to polluting particles (sulphur dioxide)
would diminish the concealing
effects of Chinese aerosols, and
would speed up
warming, unless this
effect were to be compensated elsewhere, for instance by significantly reducing long - life greenhouse
gas emissions and «black carbon.»
Indeed, atmospheric chemists
have estimated that the combined
warming effect of these trace
gases will soon equal or exceed the
effect from carbon dioxide.
The coolants are typically greenhouse
gases that, if they escape,
have a global
warming effect hundreds or thousands of times greater than carbon dioxide's.
Scientists knew about the
warming effects of greenhouse
gases, but proponents of global cooling argued that greenhouse
warming would be more than offset by Earth's orbital changes.
As it does, it could release tons of additional methane
gas, which
has 20 times the greenhouse
effect of carbon dioxide, possibly increasing the rate of global
warming.
7It is particularly ironic that Lomborg
would offer such a ridiculously precise estimate of the cost of the impacts of climate change from carbon dioxide emissions, inasmuch as the entire thrust of his books chapter on «global
warming» is that practically nothing about the
effects of greenhouse
gases is known with certainty.
The shorter - lived
gas has a much stronger
warming effect than CO2.
Frustrated by the ongoing diplomatic stalemate, a number of urban leaders
have decided to take matters into their own hands, adopting solutions that already exist or inventing new ones for limiting greenhouse
gas emissions and preparing for the
effects of ongoing global
warming.
Basically the reduction in glaciers begins before — well before in most cases — greenhouse
gas concentrations could
have had any
warming effect.
A less active sun
would probably
have a small cooling
effect on earth's temperature, if man - made greenhouse
gases weren't
having a much bigger
warming influence.
Scientists
have modelled the expected temperature drop over the 21st century due to waning solar activity — and they found that the change is likely to be dwarfed by the much bigger
warming effect of greenhouse
gases in the atmosphere.
As expected, Huber and Knutti find that greenhouse
gases contributed to substantial
warming since 1850, and aerosols
had a significant cooling
effect:
As your idea, that the earth
would be colder, creates in
effect the concept that greenhouse
gases warm the planet I think this an important point to clear up.
«While major green house
gas H2O substantially
warms the Earth, minor green house
gases such as CO2
have little
effect....
This language
would have been superfluous and without legal
effect if, as Waxman assumes, EPA already
had authority since 1970 to regulate carbon dioxide as an «air pollutant» or greenhouse
gases in general based on their» global
warming potential.»
(1) Of the other anthropogenic factors, some
have a
warming effect (other greenhouse
gases such as methane) while others
have a cooling
effect (air pollution).
I know Lindzen
has a theory that a change in tropical cloud cover will offset greenhouse -
gas - caused
warming, the unproven «iris
effect».
# 102 Kevin: SA claims that «observed
effects of the
warming that
has already occurred as a result of the greenhouse
gases we
have already emitted... are already causing massive and costly harm.»
Basically the reduction in glaciers begins before — well before in most cases — greenhouse
gas concentrations could
have had any
warming effect.
Yet deleterious
effects of
warming are apparent (IPCC 2007), even though only about half of the
warming due to
gases now in the air
has appeared, the remainder still «in the pipeline» due to the inertia of the climate system (Hansen et al 2011).
Re: # 129 The following site states why greenhouse
gases have a much greater
effect than the Sun and natural variability in explaining recent global
warming.
Research by an international team of scientists recently published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters says that the cooling
effect of aerosols is so large that it
has masked as much as half of the
warming effect from greenhouse
gases.
There are another couple of links between iv) therefore England was
warmer back then, and
v) therefore increasing greenhouse
gases have no radiative
effect.
I wonder if that briefing will extend to the
effect that ramping up tar sands oil production in Alberta using Alaskan natural
gas will
have on global
warming?
They concluded that therefore with the tropical troposphere
warming no more quickly than the surface, the
warming trend
had to be due to something other than the accumulation of greenhouse
gases and enhanced greenhouse
effect.
As detailed in section
V of this notice, it is widely recognized that greenhouse
gases (GHGs)
have a climatic
warming effect by trapping heat in the atmosphere that
would otherwise escape to space.
Global climate models
have successfully predicted the rise in temperature as greenhouse
gases increased, the cooling of the stratosphere as the troposphere
warmed, polar amplification due the ice - albedo
effect and other
effects, greater increase in nighttime than in daytime temperatures, and the magnitude and duration of the cooling from the eruption of Mount Pinatubo.
Where you then
have a talik, from this combination of geological and radiative forces, and then there is plenty of free
gas underneath that can migrate out easily through pathways once there are such tears, and then you add on top of all that that it is a seismically active zone, one can easily see how global
warming could greatly amplify the
effects of an earthquake at that fault zone.
(I think that an anomalously
warm ocean surface heated from below
would lead to more evaporation, and the additional water vapor
would give a positive greenhouse
effect that
would partially offset the
effect of a drop in greenhouse
gas concentrations.)
However, albedo modification
would only temporarily mask the
warming effect of greenhouse
gases and
would not address atmospheric concentrations of CO2 or related impacts such as ocean acidification.
``... point out that cooling trends are exactly as predicted by increasing greenhouse
gas trends,... It is interesting to note that significant solar forcing
would have exactly the opposite
effect (it
would cause
warming)» (of the upper atmosphere)
«Since increased concentrations of CO2 can lead to global
warming, some people
have proposed increasing the emission of SO2 to stabilize the temperature because of the cooling
effect of this
gas.
The actual observed
effects of the
warming that
has already occurred, as a result of the greenhouse
gases we
have already emitted, are self - evidently already «dangerous» since they are already causing massive and costly harm.
Multi-signal detection and attribution analyses, which quantify the contributions of different natural and anthropogenic forcings to observed changes, show that greenhouse
gas forcing alone during the past half century
would likely
have resulted in greater than the observed
warming if there
had not been an offsetting cooling
effect from aerosol and other forcings.
For instance, the
warming that began in the early 20th century (1925 - 1944) is consistent with natural variability of the climate system (including a generalized lack of significant volcanic activity, which
has a cooling
effect), solar forcing, and initial forcing from greenhouse
gases.
4 - While major green house
gas H2O substantially
warms the Earth, minor green house
gases such as CO2
have little
effect....
The IPCC concluded that «the
effects [of greenhouse
gases], together with those of other anthropogenic drivers,
have been detected throughout the climate system and are extremely likely to
have been the dominant cause of the observed
warming since the mid-20th century.»
On the converse, side particulates (smoke)
have also risen and
have to some extent offset the
warming effect from greenhouse
gases.
You'll note an acceleration of those temperatures in the late 1970s as greenhouse
gas emissions from energy production increased worldwide and clean air laws reduced emissions of pollutants that
had a cooling
effect on the climate, and thus were masking some of the global
warming signal.
I
have explained the trick creating the illusion of the «Greenhouse
Effect of 33 °C
warming by greenhouse
gases» which anyone with even half a brain could follow, as well as giving some other examples of the fake fisics created to hide this sleight of hand, and all the response I get is silence or verbal diarrhoea as distraction.
Radiatively
warmed (whether directly or indirectly through collisions) molecules are placed higher in the atmospheric column than can be explained just from their individual
gas constants and once at that height
have an enhanced cooling
effect equal to their enhanced
warming effect with a zero net
effect on surface temperature.
I
'd like to stick to facts: * CO2 levels are rising because we emit CO2 (so we can do something about it) * CO2 is a greenhouse
gas * CO2 thus contributes to
warming of the surface * Other
effects compensate or amplify these changes * Those other
effects haven't reversed / stopped the
warming trend yet
John Carter August 8, 2014 at 12:58 am chooses to state his position on the greenhouse
effect in the following 134 word sentence: «But given the [1] basics of the greenhouse
effect, the fact that with just a very small percentage of greenhouse
gas molecules in the air this
effect keeps the earth about 55 - 60 degrees
warmer than it
would otherwise be, and the fact that through easily recognizable if [2] inadvertent growing patterns we
have at this point probably at least [3] doubled the total collective amount in heat absorption and re-radiation capacity of long lived atmospheric greenhouse
gases (nearly doubling total that of the [4] leading one, carbon dioxide, in the modern era), to [5] levels not collectively seen on earth in several million years — levels that well predated the present ice age and extensive earth surface ice conditions — it goes [6] against basic physics and basic geologic science to not be «predisposed» to the idea that this
would ultimately impact climate.»
Some AGW proponents
have tried to minimise the significance of all this by suggesting that the implication is that Greenhouse
Gases are even more important because the troposphere
warmed despite the now revealed cooling
effect of the more active sun.