Ok, I won't let
a gay teach in the church I pastor because of it being a degradation to something beautiful.
«Ok, I won't let
a gay teach in the church I pastor because of it being a degradation to something beautiful» (Fishon)
Not exact matches
Like was drilled into my brain when I was
in the conservative
church, Lauren and Yen have been
taught, among many other things, that masturbation and being
gay (one which is a sexual act and one which is an identity) is wrong.
I wouldn't want a working prostitute, a man who spent all his leisure watching porn, or a
gay guy who spent his time at the baths to
teach in church... those things are a matter of morals not orientation.
I will answer that — no problems... after I hear you tell me if you would or wouldn't allow a
gay person to
teach in your
church?
The document firmly rejects
gay marriage, for instance, but also said Catholics leaders, «are trying to find a balance between the
Church's
teaching on the family and a respectful, non-judgmental attitude towards people living
in such unions.»
At Fordham University
in New York, a Catholic school, a proud mother of a grown
gay son drew a standing ovation when she told a story about discovering the effect of
church teachings on her child.
Some Christians believe that the Holy Spirit is leading his
Church into a truth which we have not been able to take
in until now — that the
Church's
teaching that sex is for a committed, faithful, lifelong, exclusive relationship with one other person, should be widened to include
gay people.
If we add to this the sexual activity of young men of the same age, of
gay men and lesbian women at a later stage of life, and that of unmarried and divorced heterosexual couples, it becomes clear that the sexual practice of people
in our society is quite different from that held to be normative by the traditional
teaching of the
churches.
so this is a group for
gays folks to go and get told that there desires go against the
teachings of the
church and if they keep at it they will spend the rest of the time
in hell... but if they just stop doing that terrible deed then all is well....
Though many married couples who use artificial contraception, along with divorced and remarried Catholics and
gays, continue to participate
in the life of the
church, the great discrepancy between Catholic
teaching and Catholic practice has called into question the credibility of the hierarchical
teaching office.
Where was I wrong,
in my original post, about the
teachings of the
church on
gay marriage.
In particular, one could ask the Prime Minister to put in writing his personal guarantee that no Church or individual will be forced to perform «gay marriages»; and that it will not be illegal for Christians to teach the traditional and biblical view that homosexual acts are sinful; and that Christians who refuse to perform «gay «marriages will still be able to be registrar
In particular, one could ask the Prime Minister to put
in writing his personal guarantee that no Church or individual will be forced to perform «gay marriages»; and that it will not be illegal for Christians to teach the traditional and biblical view that homosexual acts are sinful; and that Christians who refuse to perform «gay «marriages will still be able to be registrar
in writing his personal guarantee that no
Church or individual will be forced to perform «
gay marriages»; and that it will not be illegal for Christians to
teach the traditional and biblical view that homosexual acts are sinful; and that Christians who refuse to perform «
gay «marriages will still be able to be registrars.
Their move to a Catholic
church was taken as meaning only one thing: that despite the lip - service being paid by the diocese to the teaching that «non-celibate gay people should not be given Communion», the diocese of Westminster was in fact giving its tacit approval and support to a situation in which that was precisely what was happening, in a setting in which the Pope and the teaching of the Church were regarded with hostility and held up to con
church was taken as meaning only one thing: that despite the lip - service being paid by the diocese to the
teaching that «non-celibate
gay people should not be given Communion», the diocese of Westminster was
in fact giving its tacit approval and support to a situation
in which that was precisely what was happening,
in a setting
in which the Pope and the
teaching of the
Church were regarded with hostility and held up to con
Church were regarded with hostility and held up to contempt.
Yet, as Bishop Spong points out, if it was a
gay male who
taught the Christian
church what the love of God means, who defined grace for all people; and who, tortured and rejected as he must have felt, came to understand what resurrection means as God's vindicating act, then
in a sense we do owe him a debt of gratitude.
Most people I encounter
in churches aren't fearful of
gay people nor do they wish to be hurtful — but they are fearful of daring to question what they have always been
taught.
With particular pertinence to the present discussion, Levada, for all his considerable gifts, did not distinguish himself
in his
teaching, and his seeing to it that others
taught, the
Church's moral doctrine during his ten years as archbishop of San Francisco, a city commonly called the
gay capital of the world.
Here «the manner
in which
Church teaching is conveyed» is acknowledged as contributing to the prejudices against
gay and lesbian people.
There can be only one reason and that is because many of us have been conditioned by years of misguided
church teaching to look upon
gay and lesbian individuals as morally inferior, unworthy and therefore undeserving of that which we uphold as good and sanctified
in our lives.
Among them are longstanding advocates of
gay causes, habitual ranters against Rome's putative oppression, and those who go far beyond respectful dissent
in publicly declaring that authoritative
teachings of the
Church are simply false.
My
gay child has a strong father, a two parent household, a upper middle class income, both college graduates, went to
church, had a supportive family life, engaged
in sports, school activities and I think someone needs to
teach you about what the real Jesus would have done.
In the meantime, check out God and The Gay Christian as well as The Reformation Project, which seeks to equip LGBT Christians and allies to reform church teachings on sexual orientation and gender identity (and which has a conference coming up in November
In the meantime, check out God and The
Gay Christian as well as The Reformation Project, which seeks to equip LGBT Christians and allies to reform
church teachings on sexual orientation and gender identity (and which has a conference coming up
in November
in November).
Personally, I would not feel welcome
in a
church that
teaches that I chose to be
gay (I didn't!)
I
teach that a
gay person
in no more going to hell than a gossiper (which I'm sure you know Gary, the
church is full of!).
From Laura: As a theology student, I often have real problems with the theology I find
in gay - affirming writing,
teaching, and
churches.
If there weren't yawning demographic and taste divides
in this land, half the country wouldn't be preparing to secede over their right to celebrate the Confederacy by brandishing assault weapons
in church, while the other half demand that the particulars of safe
gay sex be
taught in the schools.