Previous methods
give estimates of sensitivity to CO2 that are biased low.
Not exact matches
Steven Sherwood
of the University
of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, and his colleagues looked at why different models
give different
estimates of sensitivity.
The NGN article itself
gives a good explanation
of climate
sensitivity and the various studies and
estimates of it, and does quote Michael Schlesinger
of the University
of Illinois saying that Hegerl's result «means climate
sensitivity is larger than we thought for 30 years, so the problem is worse than we thought.
That
gives them various
estimates of the climate
sensitivity.
The Y - axis is computed with regards to the fraction
of 1000 Genomes Projects MEI events that is also called in the sequenced genome to
estimate sensitivity at a
given insertionScore or insertionDnbCount.
There are two recent papers on paleo constraints: the already mentioned PALAEOSENS (2012) paper which
gives a good survey
of existing
estimates from paleo - climate and the hierarchy
of different definitions
of sensitivity.
A doubling
of CO2 from 300 ppm in 1880 to 600 ppm in 2100 has a best
estimate of 1.8 degrees (scenario B1) or about 2.3 degrees warming since 1880, which happens to be precisely the
sensitivity figure
given by Schmittner et al..
The
sensitivity measure
gives an
estimate of the mean area under the ROC curve, and the dissociation
of sensitivity and bias avoids a misrepresentation
of performance due to conflated hit rates.
The NGN article itself
gives a good explanation
of climate
sensitivity and the various studies and
estimates of it, and does quote Michael Schlesinger
of the University
of Illinois saying that Hegerl's result «means climate
sensitivity is larger than we thought for 30 years, so the problem is worse than we thought.
[Response: I looked into what you could change in the model that would have done better (there is no such thing as a RIGHT / WRONG distinction — only gradations
of skill), and I
estimated that a model with a
sensitivity of ~ 3 deg C / 2xCO2
give the observed forcings would have had higher skill.
That
gives them various
estimates of the climate
sensitivity.
and climate
sensitivity may
give the same result, underlining the continuing need to improve the independent
estimates of the forcings.
My colleagues and I are continuing to explore
sensitivities to choices made in
estimating such PDFs
of climate system properties
given their importance in understanding potential risks
of future climate change.
So the two
estimates (with and without solar forcing)
give me a range
of 0.7 C to 1.4 C for the 2xCO2 climate
sensitivity, based on actually observed CO2 and temperature records, rather than model simulations and assumptions.
Would the lower rate
of cooling
give us something close to an empirical
estimate of climate
sensitivity to increased CO2?
I
estimate dT increased from 1980 to 2010 by about 0.4 K.
Given equilibrium climate
sensitivity of 0.75 K / Wm2, the amount
of forcing neutralised by said dT is; 0.4 * 0.75 = 0.3 W / m2.
If the two methods do lead to different
estimates of climate
sensitivity, I find it difficult to believe that the 1D model is more appropriate than 3D to making claims about how much the real average temperature will rise due to a
given influence.
All you could
estimate would be the ratio
of climate
sensitivity to exp (d) where t and d are
given on a suitable time scale — t might be negative, remember, and it might also be in units not
of years but decades or centuries or half a century).
As an attempt at that reasonable discussion, to what extent are the marginally lower
estimates for
sensitivity cancelled out by evidence
of more severe impacts from a
given level
of warming?
It also states, «No best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity can now be
given because
of a lack
of agreement on values across assessed lines
of evidence and studies.»
Note 16 «No best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity can now be
given because
of a lack
of agreement on values across assessed lines
of evidence and studies.»
Using a global energy budget approach, this paper seeks to understand the implications for climate
sensitivity (both ECS and TCR)
of the new
estimates of radiative forcing and uncertainty therein
given in AR5.
We can find climate scientists who
give lower
estimates of climate's
sensitivity to CO2 whose arguments are better grounded in science than any number
of eco-warriors whose arguments are irrational, emotional, and lack any sense
of proportion.
Given that the best
estimates of «
sensitivity» for whatever that is worth since it is unlikely to be linear, are falling, there could be another phase shift in our future.
The probability distributions
give a most likely
estimate of 3 °C
of warming for a doubling
of CO2, and all pragmatic scientists tend to work on the basis that the climate
sensitivity is not drastically more than that.
from the pdf: Using a global energy budget approach, this paper seeks to understand the implications for climate
sensitivity (both ECS and TCR)
of the new
estimates of radiative forcing and uncertainty therein
given in AR5.
Given current uncertainties in representing convective precipitation microphysics and the current inability to find a clear obser - vational constraint that favors one version
of the authors» model over the others, the implications
of this ability to engineer climate
sensitivity need to be considered when
estimating the uncertainty in climate projections.»
What we have seen is not in contradiction with the scientific understanding that's represented in the IPCC reports, but it does certainly
give some support for the lower
estimates for the strength
of the trend or equivalently for the transient climate
sensitivity.
Which part
of «the IPCC
give sensitivity estimates which they chose to ignore» do you not get, miker613?
The only thing I find noteworthy is that it further reinforces the point that there is no scientific consensus on a best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity, which is entirely in agreement with the IPCC's statement in AR5 WG1 SPM: «No best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity can now be
given because
of a lack
of agreement on values across assessed lines
of evidence and studies.»
Like Nic, I personally really like Non-GCM ways
of estimating sensitivity, but I quite understand why IPCC did nt
give it any more weight than any other study.
The results can
give us projections
of future global warming under a variety
of scenarios, and also
give us an
estimate of the global climate
sensitivity.
Thus
given a total radiative forcing between the LGM and Holocene
of approximately 6 W / m2, and a surface temperature change
of approximately 4.5 °C, HS12 arrives at a climate
sensitivity best
estimate of 3 ± 0.5 °C for a 4 W / m2 forcing (which is approximately equivalent to a doubling
of atmospheric CO2).
VTG, «In summary, even low
estimates of sensitivity give > 50 % attribution to CO2 on the 1950 - 2010 timescale, plus there are patterns in the warming only explicable by greenhouse gases.»
To the authors,
sensitivity estimates based on paleoclimate are worthy
of discussion and
estimates based on GCMs are worthy
of discussion, but
estimates based on actual observations are
giving a throw away line.
A bit related time range was
given in a recent thread also here, where NOAA
estimated that 15 years
of flatlining temperatures (a range which we will reach quite soon) would invalidate the current modelling efforts, or at least the climate
sensitivity estimates.
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Estimated Strength
of Water Vapor Feedback Earliest studies suggest that if the absolute humidity increases in proportion to the saturation vapor pressure (constant relative humidity), this will
give rise to a water vapor feedback that will double the
sensitivity of climate compared to an assumption
of fixed absolute humidity.
Paul, An obvious test that would be more directly informative than your
estimates, would be to see if the energy balance model analysis correctly diagnoses the
sensitivity of a GCM,
given equivalent observations.
Prather et al. (2001)
estimated the feedback
of CH4 to tropospheric OH and its lifetime and determined a
sensitivity coefficient f = 0.28,
giving a ratio τpert / τglobal
of 1.4.
We will be able to
give probabilistic
estimates of the climate's transient
sensitivity to greenhouse gas increases and will have an improved understanding
of the response
of sea ice, precipitation, and temperature extremes to warming.
Given our uncertainty and ignorance surrounding climate
sensitivity, I have discussed the problems with attempting probabilistic
estimates of climate
sensitivity, and to create a pdf (see this previous post Probabilistic
estimates of climate
sensitivity).
Climate
sensitivity estimates from new research beginning in 2011 (colored), compared with the assessed range
given in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) and the collection
of climate models used in the IPCC AR5.
The TSD purports to rely on IPCC work as a basis for a supposed «
sensitivity»
of climate to increasing atmospheric C02, but fails to mention that the most recent IPCC report completely undermines any basis for determining climate
sensitivity with the following statement: «No best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity can now be
given because
of a lack
of agreement on values across assessed lines
of evidence and studies.»
The introduction to the debate
gives a general background on the various
estimates for the equilibrium climate
sensitivity (ECS) and transient climate response (TCR to a doubling
of CO2 and asks these questions:
A footnote in the new AR5 SPM says «16 No best
estimate for equilibrium climate
sensitivity can now be
given because
of a lack
of agreement on values across assessed lines
of evidence and studies.»
It's a pretty good idea to do, because the result
of the exercise
gives an
estimate of the climate
sensitivity.
The early scientific reviews suggest a couple
of reasons: firstly, that modelling the climate as an AR (1) process with a single timescale is an over-simplification; secondly, that a similar analysis in a GCM with a known
sensitivity would likely
give incorrect results, and finally, that his
estimate of the error bars on his calculation are very optimistic.
Comparing the trend in global temperature over the past 100 - 150 years with the change in «radiative forcing» (heating or cooling power) from carbon dioxide, aerosols and other sources, minus ocean heat uptake, can now
give a good
estimate of climate
sensitivity.
It
gives a TCR range
of 1.0C - 2.5 C and a transient response to cumulative CO2 emissions
of 0.8C - 2.5 C. Again, no best
estimates, so they really don't know what climate
sensitivity might actually be; could be low, could be high.
If we are talking being removed from the set
of «policy - ready models»
giving trusted
estimates of sensitivity I tend to agree.