It is not meant to keep
the Government out of the church.
It is meant to keep
government out of the church.
The famed Evangelist Oliver Green once stated «keep
government out of our Churches AND Churches out of our government» else we at some point be back re-fighting the Reformation.»
If he wants to keep
the government out of the church he needs to keep the church out of government.
Not exact matches
Keep your buybull and
church out of the public square, people's bedrooms and the
government!!!
When our fore fathers came up with the idea
of seperation
of church and state it wasn't to keep religion out of the government it was to keep the Church from running the gover
church and state it wasn't to keep religion
out of the
government it was to keep the
Church from running the gover
Church from running the
government.
Pope Paul VI and the «
out of touch»
Church predicted in 1969 that widespread use
of contraception would lead to four things: 1) General lowering
of moral standards, 2) A rise in infidelity, and illegitimacy 3) The reduction
of women to objects used to satisfy men and 4)
Government coercion in reproductive matters.
A question, as i am curious... Should the «laws» change in relationship to the issue
of gay's being allowed marriage, and full equal rights, would you and the Mormon
Church come
out and «change it's position and say, we are following our
government and it's laws which say it (gay marriage) is o.k..
Listen to James Madison speak about the need for the need to keep religion
out of government (Jefferson wasn't the only one to explicitly speak
of the separation
of church and state):
Keep it's licensing
out of government and then you and the rest
of your inbred
church members can discriminate in any manner you feel is pleasing to your god
Keep religion
out of government and in the
church where it belongs.
Separation
of church and state demands that the
government needs to be
out of the purely religious institution
of marriage.
The local
church in the nearby town has been very critical
of the mining companies and
of the
government's failure to look
out for the safety and health
of the workers and residents.
It is, in fact, meant to keep the
church out of Government.
Separation
of church and state was to keep the
church out of the
government and the
government's business
out of the
church's business.
The freedom
of religion clause in the first amendment was to keep the
government from establishing a state religion that all must be party to like it was in England (hince the
Church of England) not to keep prayer
out of anything the
government has it's hands in.
Detroit's Chaldean Catholic bishop, Francis Y. Kalabat, told
church leaders the diocese is reaching
out to the
government, the Iraqi embassy, the local Chaldean foundation, and the US Council
of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) on behalf
of the detainees, most
of whom are «not hardened criminals but for the last decades have been great citizens.»
Neville i mentioned those people only because the discussion was talking about dominionism the combination
of the
church and state as a governing rule all those people were
government leaders all
of them suffered in there own way.Its was the suffering that prepared them for the roles that they were to play and there faith in God was what helped them get through.We are made stronger in our weakness no matter how important or unimportant we may appear to others.I guess it is easy to fall into the lie about political involvement that its hard to make change but some people have had a huge impact.Really it is God who deserves the praise he is the one that creats the opportunitys to make impact on the world as in our strength we can do nothing.In hebrews the great men and woman
of faith there are those that seemed unimportant to the world and many suffered for there faith Our Lord knows everyone by name and every small act
of faith we do he remembers because we do it
out of our love for him that is what the christian walk is about living for Jesus and sharing that love with others.brentnz.
The minimal proposition is that
government should get off the backs and
out of the way
of mediating institutions — family,
church, voluntary associations, etc. — and let them do their vital work as they best know how.
In squeezing the
Church and other mediating institutions
out of the public square,
government naturally assumes more power over the nation's economic and social life.
Time for the GOP to leave religion in the
churches, synagogs, temples, mosques, etc., where it belongs and
out of politics and
government, where it doesn't belong.
He also complained that
government inspectors attempted to enter his family's property, where the
church meets, while he and his wife were
out of the country.
I would never give money to a religious organization that doesn't pay taxes — that is like giving money to my kids — and they need it more than the
church... I think faith is a wonderful thing for a lot
of people — including myself (I have faith in myself)-- I just wish others would keep their «faith» personal, and
out of politics and
government.
Im sooo sure that the 1 %, who isnt now paying enough to the
government, would all
of a sudden start pulling
out their wallets to the
church.
Separation
of church and state means that
churches stay
out of government and
government stays
of churches and when one crosses the other, then it becomes public.
Churches ASK for 10 % but don't DEMAND 10 % nor do they kick you
out of church for paying 0 %... however, the federal
government TAKES 30 % + and threatens jail... geez... love love love the new liberal ANTI CHARITY... just so incredibly insightful to the hate on the left...
You can just say something is false, you have to back up your opinions with reasons And actually separation
of church and state was designed to protect the
government from taking over the
church, not to keep the
church out of the
government
Forms
of church government differed; but nobody except the Quakers challenged the notion that a religious local community needed a general overseer, no matter whether he lived in (like the Baptist preachers who farmed during the week) or
out (like the circuit riders
of Methodism).
We begin to hear things like: the
churches are simply
out of tune with the people; the schools are so remote from real life questions; the
government is corrupt and corrupting.
But the
church was wrong when it drew
out of this a doctrine
of the divine right
of kings, as the
church would be wrong today in sanctifying the American form
of government as the only one mandated by God.
I found
out recently that
churches should NOT BECOME INCORPERATED LEST THEY BECOME A RELIGIOUS TAX EXEMPT ORGANIZATION (INSTEAD
OF A
CHURCH) & THE
GOVERNMENT BECOMES THEIR LORD!
Stay in your
church, and stay and
out of government when you feel like you want to interfere with civil rights.
The reason our forefathers put a separation
of church and state in our
government was because they all came
out of England, where every shift in power required everyone in the country to worship in the King's faith.
There was a reason why the founding fathers put kept religion
out of our
government and now it seems we are being asked to» pick the Christian» in this next years election — we are not picking the leader
of a
church here people, we picking someone to be the most influential, most powerful person on the earth... do we want someone who has our best interests at heart or someone who will time and again try to change the US laws to reflect his own personal beliefs?
Fine... keep it in
church and keep your version
of the almighty
OUT of my
government.
Christianity has done much more good than bad in the past 2000 years so although you can point
out some
of the horrendous wrongs committed by
churches and
governments, it doesn't eclipse the good.
The more» religion» infects the political process in this nation, the more this nation heads down a highway to totalitarian
government, if Perry is so convinced about his faith, he should start a
church and stay the he11
out of politics.
Actually, the problem is that the
government & IRS has effectively censored the
churches to a point that any type
of discussion over politics wipes
out their non-profit status with the IRS.
Isaac knelt down and began to pray; he strung along, and strung along, about the heathen in distant lands, and about the sister
churches, and about the state and the country at large, and about those that's in authority in the
government, and all the usual programme, you know, till everybody had got tired and gone to thinking about something else, and then, all
of a sudden, when nobody was noticing, he
outs with a match and rakes it on the under side
of his leg, and pff!
Commentators, including cardinals, who have called for reform have, as far as I have seen, offered not one example where the
Church's machinery
of government while carrying
out the directions
of the Holy Father has failed.
As long as the
church keeps it's UGLY head
out of government we can move on.
and why should any religious group get a say in what the
government chooses to do its call separation
of church and state... they should
out down their bibles and read about that instead.
«The First Amendment never intended to separate Christian principles from
government, he declares, pointing
out that the phrase «wall
of separation between
church and state» appears not in the Constitution but in Jefferson's letter to Danbury Baptists in 1801.
1928 editorial from the Wall Street Journal, «What America needs today is not
Government controls, industrial expansion, or a bumper corn crop; America needs to return to the day when grandpa took the team
out of the field in the early afternoon on Wednesday in order to hitch them to the old spring wagon which grandma put all the children after she washed their faces shining clean; and they drove off to prayer meeting in the little white
church at the crossroads underneath the oak trees, where everyone believed the Bible, trusted Christ, and loved one another.»
Take the
churches out of the equation and give the
government the power to control us and make us do the «right thing» or put us in jail...
Keep you religion in your
church and in your home but keep it
out of the
government.
I am referring to the fact that the fervent effort to please the powers we rely on for our sense
of self - esteem may cause us to deny those aspects
of our existence that seem to conflict with the conditions
of worth held
out to us by family, school, fraternity, sorority,
church,
government, place
of employment, etc..
In other words, the
church as an organization should stay
out of politics, but Christians individually should participate in
government.
But which model
of the
church you are living
out of does make a difference in how the
church relates to
government.
A
Church of England school has been told by the
government that it's acting illegally in throwing
out under performing pupils half way through their A-levels.