I think this is a critical issue for the entire AGW construct because if the extra DLR from more GHGs can not add to ocean
heat content then only the effects on the air need be considered and that would be insignificant in the face of oceanic control of surface air temperatures.
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The sap collected is
then transferred into bigger pots and placed over moderate
heat to evaporate the moisture
content of the sap.
The coconut oil is squeezed out of the dried coconut,
then filtered and
heat - or vacuum - processed in order to purify the product and reduce the moisture
content.
If trials are conducted in the
heat, or with reduced oxygen
content, for example,
then continuous knowledge of the distance remaining may become more important as an anchor point in the regulation of work rate.
Then they used the climate models to simulate by how much ocean
heat content has risen since the 1970s.
Since
then, anthropogenic influence has also been identified in a range of other climate variables, such as ocean
heat content, atmospheric pressure and sea ice extent, thereby contributing further evidence of an anthropogenic influence on climate, and improving confidence in climate models.
A full makeover is due next year, but until
then Toyota keeps adding standard
content like
heated mirrors, Bluetooth and steering wheel audio controls.
So I thought I was understanding the whole thing pretty well and
then along comes this Rosenthal paper on Pacific Ocean
heat content over the past 10,000 years.
Away from the dense network of
heat absorbing (daytime) then heat radiating (nighttime) structures which is the Urban Heat Island and above the air with high water vapor content trapped by the valley along the river, not to mention the pall of coal dust over the city, morning low temps were much more like what the natural countryside would experie
heat absorbing (daytime)
then heat radiating (nighttime) structures which is the Urban Heat Island and above the air with high water vapor content trapped by the valley along the river, not to mention the pall of coal dust over the city, morning low temps were much more like what the natural countryside would experie
heat radiating (nighttime) structures which is the Urban
Heat Island and above the air with high water vapor content trapped by the valley along the river, not to mention the pall of coal dust over the city, morning low temps were much more like what the natural countryside would experie
Heat Island and above the air with high water vapor
content trapped by the valley along the river, not to mention the pall of coal dust over the city, morning low temps were much more like what the natural countryside would experience.
This does not mean that the current ice melt pattern is an example of anything less
then excessive
heat content in the region.
This increased homogeneity,
then, may alter the «how quickly the land and ocean temperatures respond and make a different to the projection of the forcing onto the ocean, and hence the ocean
heat content change» and return the real world, combination - of - forcing, efficacy closer to that of CO2?
(I pointed out in 231 that if all that
heat that makes up the increase in ocean
heat content since 2000 was in the atmosphere back in 1979,
then it would have
heated up the atmosphere on the order of 15 degrees C.)
For hurricanes,
then, you'd want to ask what the sea surface temperature, subsurface ocean
heat content, and atmospheric water vapor
content would have been if, say, fossil fuel use had been eliminated 100 years ago, and atmospheric CO2 remained at about 300 ppm.
If you can't keep up with annual - decadal changes in the TOA radiative imbalance or ocean
heat content (because of failure to correctly model changes in the atmosphere and ocean due to natural variability),
then your climate model lacks fidelity to the real world system it is tasked to represent.
C isothermic level in the pacific appeared to rise from an average of 400 meters to about 100 meters recently; I find myself wondering
then how is it that the oceans
heat content is dropping, the solar input appears to be consistant, that one of the GEWEX comitties appears to indicate that the atmospheric water vapor seems to be decreasing.
If the Earth's surface is indeed warming,
then the
heat content of the surface increases day by day.
Instead, they discuss new ways of playing around with the aerosol judge factor needed to explain why 20th - century warming is about half of the warming expected for increased in GHGs; and
then expand their list of fudge factors to include smaller volcanos, stratospheric water vapor (published with no estimate of uncertainty for the predicted change in Ts), transfer of
heat to the deeper ocean (where changes in
heat content are hard to accurately measure), etc..
She
then argues that this can't be attributed to human - caused global warming, which presumably implies something about the current rise in ocean
heat content.
I do acknowledge that it is true that if we can measure all manifestations of increased
heat content, and it amounts to as small a figure as that you site,
then the question of illogic becomes effectively a question of semantics.
Notice that from 2003 to 2010, the observations are higher than prediction,
then lower than prediction — but overall OHC (actually OHCA, ocean
heat content anomaly) has been pretty close to its predicted values.
Since the IPCC's graph above up to 2003 shows that most of the energy from global warming is in the oceans, to a first approximation, Ocean
Heat Content change since
then is going to be close enough to the Total
Heat Content change.
Go to oceans,
then ocean
heat content 700m,
then find the chart on the N Atlantic.
The data are especially poor prior to 1970, when the satellite era began and also the ocean
heat content data are poor
then and prior to
then.
At Thomas: I find that note of total air
heat content interesting, because if that was so
then Wichita beats the stuffing out of the desert southwest in the
heat content of the air for a good chunk of the year.
If this is accepted as a reasonable looking proxy for ocean
heat content which matches the instrumental OHC record pretty well,
then no «lag» is needed to explain the solar effect on OHC and thus global surface temperature.
The temperature measured has to be combined with other measurements so that the specific
heat of the water can be computed with
then allows the specific
heat content to be estimated.
If Arctic Sea ice recovers, ocean
heat content declines, and near surface temperatures decline over a 10 year period... why
then we might actually have something really worth getting excited about.
If you think they do,
then you should explain why they are a better proxy than ocean
heat content, and over what timeframe you think they are a better proxy.
Then this: «The hiatus is not an issue because the ocean
heat content was increasing consistently with the forcing change.
Assuming for the sake of argument that «the pause» is not an instrument error and the troposphere hasn't gotten any warmer in 16 years
then this raises the question of how ocean
heat content could be rising which, according to ARGO, at least the upper half of the ocean is accumulating thermal energy.
Then about three years ago, those same scientists, using those same data sets, admitted there was a pause, and spent their energy explaining why it didn't matter (ocean
heat content being a better proxy was the most popular).
The way I see it, if you get various data points of ocean
heat content, you
then have to plot a trend to see how that is changing with the other changes in incoming and outgoing radiation and greenhouse gases andland use etc..
Then close the roof and subject it to constant LWR over an equal time period and measure the
heat content.
If there has been enough
heat coming out of ocean (as it does in an El Nino event) to cause that multidecadal warming,
then in light of 1st Law, what must have happened to ocean
heat content?
As indicated above, TMin is a poor proxy for atmospheric
heat content, and it inflicts this problem on the popular TMean temperature record which is
then a poor proxy for greenhouse warming too.
Regarding TimTheToolMan's prediction as to how the IPCC and the climate science community will deal with the issue, the more one thinks about the IPCC's dilemma, the more one should believe that this is just what they will do, they will tune AR5's modeling in ways which get a better recent fit, sacrificing some historical fit to do so, and
then they will produce a series of new papers which rewrite the history of ocean
heat content to match.
If any excess at the tropics is matched by an increased deficit of DLR over L elsewhere
then there is no net accretion to ocean
heat content.
If it can be shown that a change in DSR puts more energy into the bulk ocean than a similar change in DLR
then this implys that DLR is returned more quickly to space and therefore the earth's
heat content sensitivity would be less for DLR than DSR.
If it turns out that the reduction in cloud cover ALSO leads to increasing tropospheric temperatures (and ocean
heat content)
then this would be a positive feedback to the external GHG forcing, and Hansen's warnings should be given your full attention.
But I imagine we didn't have accurate ocean
heat content measurements
then.
Then when I mention that the ocean
heat content has risen, you seem to doubt that, or maybe agree to it but still don't understand where the energy came from.
Apparently, these GCMs can «forecast» climate change only «a posteriori», that is, for example, if we want to know what may happen with these GCMs from 2012 to 2020 we need first to wait the 2020 and
then adjust the GCM model with ad - hoc physical explanations including even an appeal to an unpredictable «red - noise» fluctuation of the ocean
heat content and flux system (occurring in the model in 2055 and 2075!)
Same as with my paragraph # 1 above, if we state that oceans are 90 % of the
heat content,
then we are stating that we know all the masses &
heat capacities globally (from outer atmos down to lower sea - bed).
Add in that the conditions seem to be indicated by the trailing condition of a La Nina event, seems to suggest that the contributor has more to do with Arctic
heat flow patterns
then the equatorial
heat content.
This is a blow - up of the changes in the
heat content of the top 300 meters and
then from 300 to 700 meters.
If there is a source of shallow level warming occurring concurrently, and rather more uniformly (such as can be expected to result from an enhanced external forcing)
then the total shallow layer total
heat content could easily remain the same while the deeper layer total
heat content increases steadily.
In pre-steady state there will initially be a rise in temperature, and
heat content, in layer (1),
then heat will begin to probe the lower levels; the profile, for a constant rise in surface temp, will have an exponential.
«
then the latent
heat abosrbed from the ocean to melt it is is approximately 0.5 8 10 ^ 22 Joules so the
heat content of the ocean would need to be adjusted upward to refect»
Once you've established what the data really is
then you can go on to deal with the actual
heat content changes are.