But NOBODY has yet been able to show that the «greenhouse effect» actually «
heats the Earth,» as stated here.
And one last question to Ira re Near Infrared which is included in his Solar and which he says
heats the Earth — why do you think it «is safe» in the following description?
They've no sense of gravity, of weight of the atmosphere, really, of nothing that is actually our real physical world, and as here, it seems perfectly normal because it is «well - known'that Solar energy
heats the Earth and with an extra bit added to the 2nd Law to explain it, and argued for, it's hardly ever questioned in depth to get to the principles at the heart of the problem.
A real greenhouse primarily restricts heat escape by preventing convection while the «greenhouse effect»
heats the Earth because «greenhouse gases» (GHG) absorb outgoing radiative energy and re-emit some of it back towards Earth.
Investigating this, such claims as Ira has made here, that shortwave Solar is thermal and
heats the Earth and is what we feel as heat, and elsewhere, that UV penetrates deeper than Visible that penetrates deeper than Thermal IR, etc., I have found where the error has occurred.
It's Thermal energy, Heat, which
heats the Earth.
Guys; IMO this attack on Neutrino in not warranted and there is a big drift in the thread from his idea of a simple analysis, how the Sun
heats Earth one side then finding the average surface temp over time.
So, where is the proof that Solar energy actually
heats the Earth?
Space derived energy OTOH
heats the Earth by effectively raising the amount of solar insolation.
Man burns Carbon — CO2 increases (hard to dispute)-- CO2 increases mostly due to humans (also hard to dispute but proven as above)-- CO2
heats earth (this is generally accepted and the proof seems quite straight forward)-- heating of the earth is mostly due to CO2
If you mean by «the atmosphere
heats the earth» that the atmosphere causes the earth to be at a higher steady - state temperature than if all of the radiation that the earth emitted went back out into space, then yes, that is what I am claiming; however, it doesn't violate the 2nd Law because the heat still goes from the earth to the atmosphere.
No back radiation heating the other up as you claim back radiation
heats the earth.
So if, as you claim, the energy from the atmosphere
heats the earth, where is the external work that allows this to occur?
If you mean by «the atmosphere
heats the earth» that the net energy flow (i.e., heat) goes from the atmosphere to the earth, then no, that is not what I am claiming; that violates the 2nd Law.
We know as fact that solar (possibly with the help of back radiation)
heats the earth's surface to the temperature to which solar energy has raised it, yet not withstanding this we can still extract work from the incoming solar energy.
As this radiation
heats the earth's surface, it escapes the earth in the form of long - wave radiation; a type of radiation that is much more difficult to pass through the atmosphere.
Systematically indoctrinated into this fake fisics through the general education system they have no reason not believe that «visible light / shortwave from the Sun
heats the Earth's surface and longwave infrared from the Sun plays no part this heating».
That's how a microwave heats food, and how the sun
heats the earth.
I get upset when I see «The greenhouse effect
heats the earth because greenhouse gases absorb outgoing radiative energy and re-emit some of it back towards earth.»
«once again you're arguing an increase in solar radiation
heats the earth but a decrease doesn't cool it.»
Maybe the PDO only
heats the earth but doesn't cool it?
Leaving aside your cherry - picked 1998 and the fact that the past decade is the hottest on record, and that the oceans are still heating up; once again you're arguing an increase in solar radiation
heats the earth but a decrease doesn't cool it.
The greenhouse effect
heats the earth because greenhouse gases absorb outgoing radiative energy and re-emit some of it back towards earth.
The sun
heats the earth — OK (warms).
of course radiation emanates from the sun and
heats earth surface, oceans and atmosphere, whilst parts of the atmosphere maintain whats known as a greenhouse effect..
The pro-cAGW brigade do not seem to consider «why» (or how) the Sun's radiation
heats the Earth and, therefore, why atmospheric CO2 can not...
Because obviously, only the Sun
heats the Earth.
Visible light from the Sun
heats the Earth's surface.
«Science bulletin: «Sun
heats Earth!»»
Unless you are going to deny the earth heats the sun at all, then it makes no difference HOW the sun
heats the earth, the result is the still the same — the earth then radiates all / some of this heat, which heats greenhouse gasses, which in turn return some of this heat to the earth.
The Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) Greenhouse Effect claim is that shortwave from the Sun and not longwave thermal infrared from the Sun
heats the Earth's surface, that this is mainly visible light.
I know you can't find anything real world to show your AGWScienceFiction claim that shortwave from the Sun
heats the Earth and you certainly can't find any rational sane applied scientist building visible light heating systems for the home..
AGW's present themselves as «the skeptics», but both groups have the same basic fake fisics; AGW's say «we're not disputing that carbon dioxide
heats the Earth, we're disputing the amount of warming this is causing».
In the real world it is the direct longwave thermal infrared from the Sun which
heats the Earth's surface, and us.
Simples, just keep repeating and repeating by getting into the education system from infant / junior level that Light from the Sun
heats the Earth.
All the schools teach the AGWScienceFiction fake fisics that sun - light which
heats the Earth, it doesn't mention heat, longwave infrared direct from the Sun, at all.
I'm giving you an opportunity to prove to yourselves that your «visible light
heats the Earth» fisics is real or not.
Enough of this stupidity, this is the AGWSF Greenhouse Effect energy budget, that «shortwave
heats the Earth and no longwave infrared from the Sun plays any part in heating the Earth's land and water»
Enough of this stupidity, this is the AGWSF Greenhouse Effect energy budget, that «shortwave
heats the Earth and no longwave infrared from the Sun plays any part in heating the Earth's land and water», either because it doesn't get through some unknown unexplained silly idea of an invisible barrier like the glass of a greenhouse, as per Arrhenius's getting Fourier wrong, or, as Pekka gives, that the Sun produces very little longwave infrared.
Team leader Jeff Kuhn said «The Sun won't stop spinning anytime soon, but we've discovered that the same solar radiation that
heats the Earth is «braking» the Sun because of Einstein's Special Relativity, causing it to gradually slow down, starting from its surface.»
The sun can unleash solar storms and solar flares — bursts of X-rays and ultraviolet light — that
heat Earth's outer atmosphere, causing the air to expand and rise.
Since overall the changes
heat the Earth, the glaciers from which major rivers flow are melting.
Heat the Earth Balance in a medium skillet.
The findings outlined in the paper bolster the idea that much of the warmth that would otherwise have
heated the Earth's surface has gone into the Pacific Ocean.
Forget greenhouse warming, just our everyday activities could eventually
heat Earth by an extra, devastating, 2 to 3 °C.
Caldeira explained: «If a power plant is burning continuously, within 3 to 5 months, depending on the type of power plant, the CO2 from the power plant is doing more to
heat the Earth than the fires in its boiler.
Trees perform three major climate functions: They absorb carbon, which they pull from the atmosphere, creating a cooling effect; their dark green leaves absorb light from the sun,
heating Earth's surface; and they draw water from the soil, which evaporates into the atmosphere, creating low clouds that reflect the sun's hot rays (a mechanism known as evotranspiration that also leads to cooling).
Even if it did uniformly
heat Earth's ecosystems, this would not produce a coherent global shift in ecology because local ecosystems respond so differently, often in opposing ways.
The same is true when you use a mixer in the kitchen, or a drill, or turn on a fan — unless you're trying to beam radio signals to aliens, pretty much all of the energy you use will end up
heating the Earth.
Coronal mass ejections from the sun
heat Earth's upper atmosphere, then cool it dramatically, according to a new University of Colorado Boulder study.