Natural goalscorer, pace in behind,
holds the ball up as well, so I think he would do a job.»
Hold the ball in the centre and just get forward and
hold the ball up as much as we can aim to catch United on the break, won't be easy.
While he didn't
hold the ball up as well as the Frenchman to bring others into play, Welbeck was a constant threat because of his pace.
Not exact matches
Do you think it would
hold up well to make
as balls or veggies burger patties?
Both Ramsey and Cazorla can defend and score
as well and I am expecting a very tight match for Ozil to control the
ball and make the right pass... Ramesy for Cesc and Coq for Hazard (tight m2m)... I am sure Monreal will handle his back very well and I hope the same for Bellerin against Hazard... Giroud will find difficulties to
hold up the
ball against Cahill and Tery, he must be on his day... Welback to do them the same of Utd game... Gabriel should start most of the remaining games, BFG should be benched next season
While Antonio Conte will hope to see him use his physicality and technical quality to
hold up the
ball and link play
up while also bagging goals himself, Giroud was the provider on this occasion
as his deft flick allowed Hazard to break free in front of goal to put Chelsea ahead.
For me, we won't be in need of a frontman
holding up the
ball as it will most likely be parking the bus and getting a couple of counter attacks.
the guy has improved, plus now we have our CR7 in
AS17 who is delivering for us, so Giroud will be more important
as he can
hold up the
ball and create for
AS17 to take.
It is games like this in which the talents of Giroud can be most useful,
as we can use the width of the pitch and get
balls in the box to exploit his size and power in the air, while his strength and ability
as a target man to
hold the
ball up and bring other players around him into the game is a huge weapon.
* We purchase a top quality striker, Benzema, Higuain, Lacazette (choose your pic) * We give Theo a full season to prove himself
up front and hopefully he can stay fit and improve with his
hold up play, his movement off the
ball and finishing has improved immensely (His finish in the FA Cup final wasn't
as easy
as he made it look... with his weaker foot) and we then sign Reus to play on the right.
As for pressing higher
up, Vardy moves about and his movement is nothing Giroud has ever done, if we go back to before Giroud then you will see how RvP was moving around to get the
ball and be active in the game, not a static fool like Giroud who could only
hold the
ball up for others... which slows down any attack we make.
I wouldn't
hold my breath though,
as wenger will surely
balls this
up with his penny pinching offer.?
Ramsey — overpaid, overused, injury prone, not clinical enough
as a passer or finisher and he's played out of position way too much to the detriment of our supposed offensive and defensive schemes... obviously I think he has some skills and I'm pleased he didn't let his horrible injury years ago end his career but he
holds on to the
ball too much, gives away the
ball too often and too cheaply, doesn't play good enough defensively considering the previous concern and often finds himself to far
up the pitch way too often for a guy who doesn't score or assist near enough... better suited for Wales where the team is set
up to accommodate his and Bales skills
When we are playing the bigger boys, we have to be more cautious and sit back more than we usually do i think this line
up is good
as we can also attack them with pace and counter attack and we can even
hold on to the
ball more if we need to.
Of course Son isn't
as clinical
as HK, and he's not a leader, and he doesn't
hold the
ball up like HK, and he's more fragile and...... but the team played like they can still win without Harry.
He showed his scoring instinct today with 2 good finishes but his all around game does not impress me, beside 2 weakness above his
hold up ball is only OK while his touch a bit heavy
as well.
I still don't see how he is a super sub.He's labelled
as a super sub just because of this season.Those matches when he scored he was supposed to be played because we needed an aerial presence.A lot of those matches had he started we could've won because we needed aerial presence.But the thing is that his abilities don't suit him
as a super sub.I mean he
holds up the
ball well and is great in the air and that's just about it.He's actually the one one who needs service and who needs players around him to open
up defences for him to receive the pass and not vice versa.Super subs actually provide they are not the one's to be provided for.In Giroud's case he was supposed to start in those in matches
as Sanchez was not
up to the task in aerial battles.Giroud will not be able to affect a match if the opponents are
as good in the air.
Up by two, even parking the bus — which is something I've learned to hate as a Timbers fan — we suck at it — all he has to do is hold his ground, mark up, and stay in front of the bal
Up by two, even parking the bus — which is something I've learned to hate
as a Timbers fan — we suck at it — all he has to do is
hold his ground, mark
up, and stay in front of the bal
up, and stay in front of the
ball.
For me leaving him
up field is good for now
as he can
hold the
ball up and walk faster then most players.
Welbeck will probably never be in the same league
as a
hold up player, but it really isn't necessary if the midfield can keep the
ball better.
As if he
holds the
ball better than Rooney, Aguero, Costa Watch Aguero
hold up the
ball while running at you and turning you inside out at the same time.
Alexis gets chance to play
as a CF for periods
as Theo can drop out wide easier than Giroud, if Welbz is playing on the right then all 3 of our players could play wide and CF.. The
hold up play Giroud is great at won't be needed so much
as Ozil and Alexis can do
hold onto the
ball and then bring others into play.
as for cech the difference is that Chelsea he had matic / terry & cahill / ivanovic in front of him all of them are well over are good at defending esp at set pieces while at we have midgets defending apart from mertasacker & giroud one of the reason wenger plays giroud is not just because he can
hold up the
ball but he can defend in conner kicks / freekicks
as well
Giroud is very strong and heavy, he is also good in the air and can
hold up the
ball and do that pseudo midfielder thing well enough for Wenger to keep picking him
as the spearhead.
Without a striker to
hold the
ball up it keeps coming back, puts you under continuous pressure, simple
as that
... he played there against crystal palace, Everton 2 season ago and it was a disaster... our build
up is majorly done closer to d centre circle than d oppositions box... that's y girouds
hold up play is vital... either we go with dat path or we look for a striker who is lightning quick (so when we make d final pass, it doesn't get wasted), uses both legs to shoot on sight, with good accuracy... playing Sanchez, who is not very good with his back to goal
as a 9 is useless and though fast,
holds on to d
ball a lot tryn to get d best angle to shoot... we need a striker who is very intelligent with d timing of his runs... too bad Walcott is
as intelligent
as a sheep, cld have been d perfect cf...
The slow patient build
up is a difficult approach,
as it gives opposition teams the time to organize their defense, while we
hold onto the
ball just outside their box and do nothing profitable.
i still
hold the opinion the striker we use is dependent on the opposition we play, for all the brilliance of Alex he has been shut out in several games by pressing arsenal and letting us having to resort to long
balls which he fails to get on to, if teams stops arsenal build
up, they stop arsenal with sanchez
as the forward, however with both Alex and Giroud on the field we have the opportunity to switch styles without making changes.
N'Zonzi's defence ability, calmness on the
ball and will to break
up attacks have seen some label the Frenchman
as one the best
holding midfielders in the league.
we have shown times without number we don't do pressure, we lack grit and
balls, so if the title race goes to the wire, with each match plays dxd under enormous pressure to
hold on to the top spot or chase the leaders down you cn be rest assured we will find a way to bottle it, its what we do best...... and
as soon
as we are out of contention and pressure is off, just watch us rack
up wins after wins, in time to nab the 4th spot
If you don't ask him to
hold up the
ball then oppurtunities for our backs Bellerin and Monreal to get into the flow
as it would take them time to get in position to create width.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the
ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through
balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming
up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest
Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the
ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects,
as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox
as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise...
as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey
holds onto the
ball too long, gives the
ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long
ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch...
as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part
as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential
as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he
holds onto the
ball too long and he will give the
ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense
as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
As defenders get used to pace, get tired from having to defend 2 - 3 different players based on the fluent interchange, he comes in and brings something different: physicality,
hold up play, height (crosses, long
balls,).
Giroud going to The Chavs actually weakens their squad
as Batshuayi will score more goals than the Frenchman will.Giroud is NOT a good finisher he is NOT a good target man he does NOT
hold the
ball up and bring others into the game he has NOT got any pace He is NOT anywhere near the class of Lacazette.JUST GET RID OF HIM.If he was anywhere near half decent he would have doubled his goal tally for us since he's been here.
Players scores Chech 8.5 top saves when needed Monreal 7 good steady game
as always Mert 6 did ok The boss 6 looked tired Bel 7.5 good game needs work on crossing Walcot 5 did less than iwobi Cmpbell 7.5 worked hard, in front of ox and walcott anyway Flamini 7 steady Ox 4 poor all game not a clue how he gets a game Ramsey 5 very selfish player, if barca pay 50m take it and sigh Barkley for 35 Giroud 6.5 missed very good chance and doesn't
hold the
ball up at important times but had an ok performance Iwobi 7 did more than walcott in 15 mins Chambers not on long enough
If you assessed him correctly when we played against citi he was just a passenger, the only good he did was the goal and it was from set pcs otherwise he had not used to his
hold up play
as most of the
balls came from behind.
However I do think there is space in this team for Giroud and he has a good set of traits, such
as his
hold up play and his consistency of heading the
ball, which can be utilised by Arsenal when needed.
The players around him should trust him and give him the
ball more often
as they give to giroud
as they think that he will
hold the
ball up.
Oribe Peralta has done an excellent job of replacing his national team mate Raul Jimenez, becoming America's do - everything target man who does just
as much work
holding up the
ball and setting
up his teammates
as he does scoring.
He spent most of the match playing
as a deep - lying midfield instead of making runs or
holding up the
ball or even just staying in his own bloody position.
Philipp Lahm and Mats Hummels didn't look to be on the same page at all,
as they failed to
hold their line, then didn't pick
up Balotelli running by them onto the
ball.
Alexis the
ball hog, did not actually fit into the Arsenal attacking mold, even though he was a skillful player,
as he
held up the game too much.
He examines the contents —
as many fully deflated footballs
as they can
hold — takes out two of the
balls, zips
up the rest, and gets to work.
As we expected Newcastle set themselves
up to try and frustrate Arsenal and try and hit us on the break and they managed to
hold us off until Alexis Sanchez challenged for the
ball in the Magpies box and the headed clearance fell sweetly onto Ozil's left boot who sent a perfectly weighted volley into the top of the net.
He has a career long experience
as striker, been Golden boot in the French league
as a striker, is in the France natuional team
as a striker, is 6» 5 and heavy built, has the physical strength to
hold of big centre - halves, can
hold up the
ball and be tackled without going to ground every time.
OK I know that would leave Walcott and giroud
as the striker options, but if it's giroud all he would need to do is
hold the
ball up to let those 4 in, if it was Walcott it would be a matter of pace over the top.
We need a robust bulldozing striker, not one who has speed and does very little to fight for the
ball, or one whose main job
as instructed is to
hold -
up the
ball for others to pass around aimlessly.
errr
hold up does nt mean getting rid of the
ball as soon
as it gets to you.
Cazorla is not bad, but he's playing on the same wavelength
as Arteta, often passing a bit too much, or
holding the
ball up for a bit too long.
He is unnecessaryly
holding up the Gunners acceleration when they are on the offensive
as he will
hold the
ball and dances round with it to entertain or impress the fans.