The difference between a target centre forward and a striker is that «A target man waits for the ball to be put at his foot or his head for him to score and most times a centre forward
holds on to the ball with his back to goal waiting for runners to run in to receive a pass from him so he can position or free himself to score but a STRIKER is a player who runs to meet the ball.
Sure, they could
hold on to the ball with little trouble but, in McDonald and McTominay as a midfield duo, McLeish's team seemed to have accidentally erected their own barrier to goal.
Sunderland started the game with defensive mentality and found it very difficult to
hold on to ball with Liverpool dominating the possession 75 % to Sunderland around 25 %.
Not exact matches
Coquelin's defending is excellent.In fact i've watched many DM's Arsenal have been linked and he's better than some of them defensive wise.How many top DM's will keep the likes of Silva, Coutinho and Modric (12/13) quiet throughout a match?It takes top defending
to do that.His biggest problem is that he's not adventurous and doesn't
hold the
ball with authority.It's just that I feel he's not given the appreciation he deserves.He's a good squad player
to have and when
on form can do well against top teams.
* We purchase a top quality striker, Benzema, Higuain, Lacazette (choose your pic) * We give Theo a full season
to prove himself up front and hopefully he can stay fit and improve
with his
hold up play, his movement off the
ball and finishing has improved immensely (His finish in the FA Cup final wasn't as easy as he made it look...
with his weaker foot) and we then sign Reus
to play
on the right.
Then the Eagles got hit
with a
holding call
on a bad Matt Ryan throw
to create a first down situation where Matt Ryan
held on to the
ball forever before throwing an incomplete
to Levine Toilolo, who was virtually blanketed.
Suggesting that he was worried about the fact that West Ham have been playing competitive games for some weeks now while the Gunners were facing our first, Wenger hinted that he would have been reasonably happy
with a draw and perhaps that is why he played Giroud
to hold up the
ball and Chamberlain and Cazorla
on the flanks
to keep more possession.
They had the
ball with a chance
to tie but couldn't bury the shot and Team Harris would
hold on!
Arsenal seemed
to be trying
to be more precise
with their passing and
hold on to the
ball longer, but the first time they give it away Fer runs through
to Cech's goal but his shot was a bit weak
to get past our big Number One.
The guy
holds a passion and drive that you rarely see in modern day footballers,
with determination
to be
on the
ball at every opportunity.
When we are playing the bigger boys, we have
to be more cautious and sit back more than we usually do i think this line up is good as we can also attack them
with pace and counter attack and we can even
hold on to the
ball more if we need
to.
Arsenal need a focal point striker someone who could operate in tight spaces, lean into defenders
hold the
ball up
with skills and control allowing his wide players like Sanchez and Walcott
to make runs into the box and hence sustain pressure
on the opposition.
Your right I think, if we can get decent
holding CM
to help protect the back 4 then Ozil and Co will be able
to focus
on attacking more often, how - ever I will highlight how little effort Ozil puts in
to winning the
ball back For me Cazorla would be the starter because I have more confidence in him in getting back and winning the
ball back
with the TEAM and help us press higher up
to force the opposition into making mistakes and letting in goals.
Quick notes
on arsemal team 1 - paulista is not good as i though 2 - coquelin is essential in arsenal midfield
to give stability but he can't
hold the
ball in his feet or give the right pass in the right time so we can't dominate teams anymore especially
with santi absence 3 - ramsey = horrible, just a headless chicken running everywhere 4 - ozil could have easily 30 + assists by now 5 - Olivier Giroud the handsom french guy shouldn't ever be a big team first choice striker 6 - where are the 4 world class strikers that wenger said we had i didn't se anyone of the yet
Im not blaming the players for anything because #aw controls the team & if he can't see whats going
on with jack
holding onto the
ball to long well hes fackin blind, how come #sanchez got bench because he said he slows down the team & he
holds on to the
ball & thats exactly the same ting jack does so im not blaming the players I blame #aw & by the way #FACK AW do nt care if I get the thumbs down
Arsenal are recovering and slowly getting back some confidence and fluidity in their game, played 120 mins
on sunday and needed
to rotate various players who were obviously not fully recovered and who were certain» red flags» for muscular injuries if theyd started (ie, ox, ramsey,
holding) Leicester did not deserve anything at all, they were ultra defensive, yes worked hard I agree but its easier
to defend
with 9 behind the
ball for vast periods of the game.
The best players are player who are capable of
holding on to the
ball without running
with it.
Besides several teams who have questions surrounding one or possibly two players, there is no squad that has so many issues heading into the final week of the transfer window... even Monaco, who have lost numerous players from their starting 11 have less controversy swirling in and around their club and they have champion's league play
to contend
with this season... just think of how ridiculous this situation is especially considering that we have had the same manager for over 20 years... no team should be better organized than ours... if nothing else, that should be the one advantage this team
holds over all others, yet the exact opposite has occurred... this fact is even more disturbing considering the main argument against removing Wenger from his managerial position was that there was no suitable replacement and that people feared some sort of perceived drop - off if a new manager was brought into the mix... based
on what we've witnessed since the time of his contract renewal a monkey
with a magic eight
ball could have done an adequate job... I hate
to make jokes, in light of our current dilemma, but this team is so screwed up if I don't laugh about it, the only plausible response is
to either cry or do something incredibly destructive... just look around this squad and try
to see what our delusional manager sees that allow him
to make such positive statements about our current team
lst season at stamford bridge, was the first time i saw that 4 -1-4-1 formation being used, and for some weird reason i feel a very strange negative vibe and well all know the outcome.the manager has come back
with this formation and its not yielding result, but he still sticks
with it.i do nt know much about formations dear friends, but if you are playing a slow dm in arteta and a very very slow cb, then you are toast against quality teams
with sound tactics.wen playing wellbeck as a lone striker, i think 4 -2-3-1, will work better, but if we have a big player like oliver (boooos), thn we can try the 4 -1-4-1, thingy cos he can
hold the
ball for our midfielders
to run in.but on the overall, shame on wenger for not giving our defence a good cover DM.NO BODY PLAYS A SLOW DM / CB AND EXPECT TO B REGARDED AS CHAMPIONSHIP MATERIAL.IT HURTS GUYS, REALLY HURT
to run in.but
on the overall, shame
on wenger for not giving our defence a good cover DM.NO BODY PLAYS A SLOW DM / CB AND EXPECT
TO B REGARDED AS CHAMPIONSHIP MATERIAL.IT HURTS GUYS, REALLY HURT
TO B REGARDED AS CHAMPIONSHIP MATERIAL.IT HURTS GUYS, REALLY HURTS.
He seems
to hold on to the
ball too long, has been guilty of giving away possession
on many occasions and apparently plays
with a chip
on his shoulder.
... he played there against crystal palace, Everton 2 season ago and it was a disaster... our build up is majorly done closer
to d centre circle than d oppositions box... that's y girouds
hold up play is vital... either we go
with dat path or we look for a striker who is lightning quick (so when we make d final pass, it doesn't get wasted), uses both legs
to shoot
on sight,
with good accuracy... playing Sanchez, who is not very good
with his back
to goal as a 9 is useless and though fast,
holds on to d
ball a lot tryn
to get d best angle
to shoot... we need a striker who is very intelligent
with d timing of his runs... too bad Walcott is as intelligent as a sheep, cld have been d perfect cf...
Neither Arteta nor Flamini will run
with the
ball or
hold on to it too much.
Let's face it goalkeepers tend
to march
to the beat of a different drum and Szczesny certainly fell into that category, but most of his antics were relatively harmless and simply reflected a certain level of immaturity that isn't uncommon for someone thrust into the limelight at such a young age... lord knows we've seen that happen
with numerous players throughout the years and very few were ever banished for such behaviour... the only
on - field action that drove me crazy was his inability
to take a deep breath and not try
to rush the play
with an ill - timed throw at certain points in the game when common sense suggested
holding the
ball and slowing things down... the fact that he continued
to do this probably had a lot
to do
with the glaring lack of coaching time spent
with the goalkeepers... ultimately he made the fateful decision
to take his frustrations out into the public sphere and paid dearly for it... in the end, his services were wanted by several of the best Italian squads, which is significant considering the historical importance placed
on the defensive side of the
ball in Serie A... all I know is that if someone asked me
to pick the most athletically gifted goalkeeper we have had in our squad since the arrival of Wenger, without hesitation, he would be my pick and for that reason his departure is more than a little disappointing... what else is new though
Update: Bubba did
hold on to get the win and quickly make up that $ 1 million in golf
ball money for this year
with this week's hefty payout.
I actually think he'd be a great
holding midfielder — intelligent, reads the game well and has good positioning, strong, relatively big
with decent pace, good stamina, good in the air, confident
on the
ball and able
to go forward
with it and
hold off other players.
i still
hold the opinion the striker we use is dependent
on the opposition we play, for all the brilliance of Alex he has been shut out in several games by pressing arsenal and letting us having
to resort
to long
balls which he fails
to get
on to, if teams stops arsenal build up, they stop arsenal
with sanchez as the forward, however
with both Alex and Giroud
on the field we have the opportunity
to switch styles without making changes.
we have shown times without number we don't do pressure, we lack grit and
balls, so if the title race goes
to the wire,
with each match plays dxd under enormous pressure
to hold on to the top spot or chase the leaders down you cn be rest assured we will find a way
to bottle it, its what we do best...... and as soon as we are out of contention and pressure is off, just watch us rack up wins after wins, in time
to nab the 4th spot
Well its possible he's one of those types we've all played
with as a kid:
holds on to the
ball and sulks when things aren't going his way.
Until Wilshere grows up, Arsene can't trust him
with any serious role esp in midfield, Wilshere needs
to know what his job is
on the pitch and save us fans headache each time he
holds the
ball.
This is an incredibly difficult question
to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only
to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel
to move the
ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through
balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards
to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago...
on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender
on staf, Mustafi, who seems
to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest
Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early
to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency
to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive
on the
ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs
to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious
to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey
holds onto the
ball too long, gives the
ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities
on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently
to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow
to ever boss the midfield and he tends
to telegraph his one true strength, his long
ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played
with Coq Wenger always seemed
to play Francis in a more advanced role
on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready
to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him
to use Francis and then he had the nerve
to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary
to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed
to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third...
on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends
to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little
to no sense considering what he has
to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford
to focus too heavily
on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try
to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent
with the necessary components... in regards
to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are
on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair
to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went
to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had
to choose one of those 3 players
to stay
on it would be Ox due
to his potential as a plausible alternative
to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue
to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen
on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he
holds onto the
ball too long and he will give the
ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due
to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem
to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold
to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction
to heroin without the benefits
The inning starts
with Gurriel unable
to hold on to a
ball at first, so Bellinger reaches
on an error, and is at first
with Puig up
to bat.
For an indicium of clout, Votaw's players had the cover of Golf World
to gloat over — it showed Annika
holding up a golf
ball with 59 written
on it.
Giroud continues
to get abuse from fans, but he still only striker we have that can
hold on to ball well, link
with others, and be serious threat from crosses.
Wenger lost the plot when he brought in Giroud... what about the beautiful game involves having a lumbering striker who's main attribute is
holding up play... our success
with Wenger, and even before, came
with pace and clinical striking up front, having a boss in the midfield and having physically imposing CBs... what about Wright, Bergkamp, Anelka, Henry or RVP remind anyone of Giroud (minus the left foot of course)... the formula was broken, which didn't have
to be the end of our success, but when you adopt half - measures you can't expect things just
to work themselves out
on their own... at the very least Wenger should have brought in some wingers that can consistently cross the
ball and then spend significantly more time addressing our lack of success
with set pieces... ultimately this is why we continued
to struggle
with consistency and continued
to constantly play people in the wrong positions
South Carolina got the
ball back
with 41 seconds left, but LSU picked off a Hail Mary
to hold on for the win.
Even if Jason Lind had
held on to the
ball, what the Hell was he intending
to do
with it?
And he shoulda
held on to the
ball when he was isolated
with the ST, but made the initial stop which was crucial.
Unlike Walcot, Giroud likes
to stick at the central position
holding the
ball, this provide no chance for Sanchez
to roam about
on the front three and
with him Carzola looks non-mobile, he tends
to pay short passes in and out while Ozil more often tend
to drift
to the wings looking for putting in crosses and the overall game is slow which inturn provides room
to the opposing teams
to attack causing our defense vulnerable and commit mistakes.
If we get Bale
on the right wing
to complete our attack, imagine the possibilities
with Özils playmaking skills, Sanchez» hard work and brilliant technique, Girouds
hold - up play and strength in the box
with Bales speed and deadliness
with the
ball.
He is unnecessaryly
holding up the Gunners acceleration when they are
on the offensive as he will
hold the
ball and dances round
with it
to entertain or impress the fans.
And, he just seems
to be able
to hold on to the
ball even
with three or four defenders collapsing
on him.
It all depends
on whether he's first choice because
with him playing, Arsenal has
to play accordingly
with the tall centre - forward who can
hold the
ball up.
Whereas Bolles was blocking for a parade of barely competent QBs who routinely
held the
ball too long and having
to deal
with a terrible guard beside him and no TE help because our right tackles were so bad the extra protection almost always had
to be
on that side.
He is good enough
on the
ball technically
with enough strength
to have moderate
hold up play, but it will never be a feature of his game.
To me, i feel xhaka is well needed in dis new formation (d 3 -4-3) n moreso, he is a typical arsenal kind of player... can hold on to d ball n distribute it with precision... all we need to succeed with dis new formation is to get a combative football playing midfielder dat can win d ball n move with it... in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez on loan... doubt if he is going to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant
To me, i feel xhaka is well needed in dis new formation (d 3 -4-3) n moreso, he is a typical arsenal kind of player... can
hold on to d ball n distribute it with precision... all we need to succeed with dis new formation is to get a combative football playing midfielder dat can win d ball n move with it... in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez on loan... doubt if he is going to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant
to d
ball n distribute it
with precision... all we need
to succeed with dis new formation is to get a combative football playing midfielder dat can win d ball n move with it... in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez on loan... doubt if he is going to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant
to succeed
with dis new formation is
to get a combative football playing midfielder dat can win d ball n move with it... in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez on loan... doubt if he is going to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant
to get a combative football playing midfielder dat can win d
ball n move
with it... in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez
on loan... doubt if he is going
to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant
to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of midfield player, not sure if he will be in d 1st team
with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant it
Both sides had players missing and, if I read the stats correctly, City
held 52 % procession and had more strikes
on goal which goes
to prove it «s what you do
with the
ball rather than how long you
hold on to it (an old arsenal trend).
He seems
to want
to play the
ball out from the back which is good provided he realises he will probably never be a Beckenbauer.Hes not the quickest but he reads the game and credit
to him (and
Holding to an extent) that they both are brought into the side
with NO recognised Centre Back as a Leader
to learn from and obviously NO specialised Coaching.Tony Adams will tell you he came in and played next
to David O'Leary after being COACHED by Don Howe.What Do we have
to bring our young players
on?
Antonio has the
ball with just seconds left
on the clock - just needs
to hold up play by the corner flag, but instead passes it perfectly back
to Palace so that they launch a counter, and Zaha scores as the Hammers still remain winless away from home in the league.
Of course, he's more likely
to hold the
ball for a moment — just enough time for a lightning quick attacker
to burst past the fullback — and lay off a
ball to send his teammate one
on one
with the keeper.
He's strong
on the
ball, capable of
holding up the
ball with his back
to goal and brushing off defensive pressure, but frequently lays it off quickly
to his teammates — either back
to the midfielders behind him or
to the sides, before moving into space
to receive it back again.