We also find the suggestion: «Make a list of as many famous
homosexual people as you can» (p68).
It is not to be misconstrued as criticism or an attack on
homosexual persons as individuals or a group.
Coffin argues for the stance of absolute acceptance of
the homosexual person as the one acceptable Christian attitude.
Not exact matches
If marriage is a «lifestyle» choice for heterosexual couples,
as people seem to believe, why should
homosexual couples not be allowed to marry?
As the 1986 Vatican «Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of
Homosexual Persons» stated, the homosexual inclination is «ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil» and is therefore an «objective disord
Homosexual Persons» stated, the
homosexual inclination is «ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil» and is therefore an «objective disord
homosexual inclination is «ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil» and is therefore an «objective disorder.»
I also know
people who hold to the same beliefs regarding
homosexuals as fishon but who have gone out of their way to educate themselves on both sides of the debate... and even though they still think homosexuality is a sin, they don't resort to the language and comparasions that fishon does... because they know that homosexuality isn't anything comparable to pedophilia or alcoholism.
Homosexual people will be accepted
as equal, full human beings, who have a legitimate claim on every right that both church and society have to offer any of us.
Father John Harvey states (in The
Homosexual Person: New Thinking in Pastoral Care) that some
homosexuals may be victims of truly compulsive behavior and
as such deserve our special sympathy and understanding; but even these unfortunate individuals, he notes, may exercise the choice to seek help.
Especially among the college - educated, these young
people know
homosexuals and count them
as friends.
I don't identify with the victims, the Islam ladies, the quivering question marks, the short
people, the
homosexuals, all the persecuted Naked Pastor exposes so
as to reveal the horror and the agony.
Far from being an indicator of social acceptance of homosexuality, a movie such
as The Birdcage - sanitized of what
homosexuals actually do with their plumbing, and of grim specters such
as AIDS - is a very traditional instance of
people finding
homosexual behavior, especially in its more flamboyant cross-dressing variations, ludicrously funny.
One suggestion recommends, «not using phrases such
as «gay», «lesbian» or «
homosexual» to define a
person's identity,» in order to «take every aspect of the
person into consideration.»
So Steve, You believe that a
person who,
as you say, belongs to Christ, and is a practicing
homosexual when they die, they are going to heaven?
Schwoyer made the point that many
people think of
homosexuals as concerned only with lust.
For the premises were firmly in place: Justice Kennedy had said that
people in
homosexual relations «seek autonomy» for themselves, just
as people in heterosexual relations do.
Engaging or not engaging in
homosexual activities is viewed
as a choice, and thus the power of Christ is needed to enable the
person to change or resist
homosexual temptations.
The official publication of the Christian Booksellers» Association recently carried an article on trends in religious publishing which predicted more books on homosexuality «down the road (maybe five years or so)» and noted that just
as there has been evidence of more compassion toward divorced
persons, «Christians in the future will be saying homosexuality is still wrong but God loves
homosexuals and values them
as persons» (Bookstore Journal, January 1976).
Reparative therapy, however, should in no way be presented
as a requirement for the
homosexual person.
Listening to our law in our bodies It is just
as inappropriate for the
homosexual person to «do what he wants with his body.»
Note well that the
homosexual person, in living chastely, is in a most noble way doing something profoundly positive: by not misusing his sexuality he is respectfully acknowledging that ultimately our generative faculties are not ours to use
as we please; the sacred interplay is God's territory wherein we participate, not over which we arbitrate.
Wesley Hill understands that,
as a faithfully Christian
homosexual man, he is not in the only category of
people who are not called to sexual activity.
Homosexual persons have, of course, legitimate rights such
as the right to work and the right to be treated fairly.
I read two articles last year (which I didn't document, like you, thinking it was out of the question) about pedophiles making the exact same argument
as the present day argument that
homosexuals have taken from the cause of the Black
people; «they were born that way.»
But I also say that
people who choose other lifestyles, heterosexual or
homosexual, should be accepted, just
as atheists and libertarians are accepted, in the hope that they will come to faith in Jesus which will presumably involve repentance.
As Cobb points out, the Christ of the churches today is bad news for
homosexual persons.
The
homosexual lobby has been very effective in aligning itself with minority groups, is prominently represented at the Holocaust memorial service [12] each year and has created an image of itself
as a group of
people under persecution.
It will be the Church which defends the dignity of all
persons when the levers of power move from the present hegemony that favours the
homosexual lobby to another hegemony that may just
as easily not.
In truth there are many who see this
as just dessert for those who, they feel, persecuted
homosexual people in times past.
Among other things, the Italian Dominican calls for a revolution in the Church's pastoral practice among the divorced and civilly remarried
as well
as sexually active
homosexual persons.
Indeed,
homosexual persons are called to live out the inclination which is natural for them, namely, in fidelity to another
person of the same sex, and enjoying sexual acts not primarily for pleasure but
as expressions of love.
A
person's sexuality — whether heterosexual,
homosexual, or bisexual — is a very deep biological piece of who that
person is
as an individual.
Now if,
as Oliva proposes, Thomas means that the
homosexual inclination comes from the most intimate part of the
person's soul, then the same reading must apply to Aquinas's mention of cannibalism and bestiality.
Treating
homosexual activity
as a private matter (and some
people now treat group sexual activity this way
as well) shapes our society's mores.
We've isolated and condemned homosexuality
as an especially egregious sin because 1) it's a sexual thing (and we're obsessed with sex), 2) it's relatively easy to identify and name, (unlike gossip and materialism and greed, which are condemned more often in the Bible and are more pervasive in our culture), and 3) it is «other,» (when you're straight, and in no danger of committing
homosexual acts yourself, it's easy to call it an abomination because it's easier to remove specks from others
people's eyes.)
The most negative statement by Paul regarding same - sex acts occurs in Romans 1:24 - 27 where, in the context of a larger argument on the need of all
people for the gospel of Jesus Christ, certain
homosexual behavior is given
as an example of the «uncleanness» of idolatrous Gentiles.
Olivia's claim that, for Thomas, some
persons are born with a
homosexual soul, is outrageous
as a matter of textual interpretation.
As for acting out of personal arrogance, the mistreatment, even abuse, of those on the fringes of society is what I was saying leads me to question the treatment of
homosexual people.
God's morality does not change, and
as a church and a
people we often have a lot of bigotry toward the increasing numbers of
homosexuals in our midst — however!
«In those times, we knew about things that have become common today: the reality of abortion, of
people who manifest
homosexual tendencies, whose personal dignity we always respected, but we were formed to see these acts
as absolutely unacceptable, against the nature that God had created for us.»
However, the recent letter on pastoral care of
homosexuals (already referred to),
as well
as the demand by the Vatican that ethicist Charles Curran retract his position on homosexuality and other sexual moral issues, or relinquish his position
as a Catholic theologian, and its more recent order to me that I give up all ministry to
homosexual persons, have convinced me that I can no longer in conscience remain silent.
Once heterosexual and
homosexual people can stop dividing along the lines of «gay vs. straight» and see each other
as members of Christ's body who are «one in Christ,» only then can we begin to come along side each other in love to help each other follow Jesus more faithfully.
He makes a good point that he uses the terms «gay» and «
homosexual»
as adjectives, not
as nouns,
as in «gay Christian» or «
homosexual person.»
Flat out, I want
as many
homosexuals, drug addicts, divorcees, and alcoholics
as possible darkening the doors of Brand New Church, because those
people want and need change.
At the most negative pole for Nelson are those holding to a «rejecting - punitive» approach - one which «unconditionally rejects homosexuality
as legitimate and bears a punitive attitude toward
homosexual persons.»
Persons choosing
homosexual acts are not speaking the «language of the body,» in which the body itself is integral to their union
as bodily beings.
Therefore,
homosexual acts damage «the body's capacity for the marital act
as an act of self - giving which constitutes a communion of bodily
persons.»
Added to the reasons already given to show how
homosexual acts violate the nuptial meaning of the body and the unity of the human
person as a bodily being, respect for the health and life of
homosexual males ought to make one realize that anal sex, the characteristic kind of
homosexual male behavior, is morally bad.
As to when this idea that
people weren't actually JUST heterosexual is a little more difficult to point to because same - sex relationships are all over ancient documents but it appears the concept came about circa - 1700s and the actual word
homosexual came out a century and a half later.
Even if it may be shown that some
homosexuals have an orientation that they have not chosen, it is fair to state that
homosexual behavior is in fact «a choice,» and one that most
people do not view
as normal conduct either for themselves or their sons and daughters in or out of the military.
We had this discussion at church should we allow
homosexuals in leadership i was the only one who spoke up and i had prayed during the week and confessed all my sin before the Lord i certainly had no right to condemn someone else for there sin.But the fact is that it needs addressing that was my question to the
people presenting the proposal.Is homosexuality a sin the
people taking the discussion would not address it
as they knew scripturally that it was and clearly had no answer on dealing with that issue and tried to detour around it.