The logic makes sense (increased SST's increase
hurricane intensity which increases damages from any given storm), but logic is not the same as scientific evidence.
Gore indicated that it is primarily
Hurricane intensities which scientists largely agree should be expected to increase in association with warming surface temperatures, and specifically notes that
Not exact matches
The
intensity of
Hurricane Maria,
which made landfall on Puerto Rico as a Category 4 storm on September 20, was part of why it was so devastating to the island and its weak infrastructure, leaving Puerto Ricans in a humanitarian crisis.
«You can in fact reduce the upper ocean [temperature] by a degree Celsius, maybe 2,
which would have a measurable effect on the
intensity of the
hurricane, but the practical concerns were hard to overcome.»
The best historical analogue for a
hurricane that follows NHC's 5 pm EDT Friday track and intensity forecast for Irma may be Hurricane Donna of 1960, which tore through the Florida Keys just northeast of Marathon as a Category 4 storm with 140 m
hurricane that follows NHC's 5 pm EDT Friday track and
intensity forecast for Irma may be
Hurricane Donna of 1960, which tore through the Florida Keys just northeast of Marathon as a Category 4 storm with 140 m
Hurricane Donna of 1960,
which tore through the Florida Keys just northeast of Marathon as a Category 4 storm with 140 mph winds.
There are so many more
hurricanes, tornados, famine, simonies, floods, and so on
which are increasing continually and with more
intensity.
But a reduction in the number and
intensity of large
hurricanes driving ocean waters on shore — such as this month's
Hurricane Joaquin, seen,
which reached category 4 strength — may also play a role by cooling sea - surface temperatures that fuel the growth of these monster storms, the team notes.
But last year, the team was able to improve the resolution on its
hurricane model,
which helped improve the
intensity predictions.
The
Hurricane Forecast Improvement Project (HFIP), which began in 2009, is an effort to improve the service's ability to forecast hurricane tracks and intensity further in
Hurricane Forecast Improvement Project (HFIP),
which began in 2009, is an effort to improve the service's ability to forecast
hurricane tracks and intensity further in
hurricane tracks and
intensity further in advance.
With respect to 181, if global warming increases sea surface temperatures
which contribute to an intensification of tropical cyclones, then storms with winds below
hurricane intensity will more frequently attain
hurricane status (~ 100 kph winds).
Here is an example of a changing entropy pattern, just like the increase in
hurricane intensity, brought about by microphysics changes
which have occurred due directly to increases of CO2 changing the CONDUCTIVITY of oceans.
Furthermore, the fact is (as shown in Figure 1) that
hurricane intensity has increased in recent decades as SST has risen (at least in the North Atlantic for
which trends are most reliable) and this prediction is based on fairly fundamental and robust thermodynamic arguments explored by Emanuel and others for decades now.
In a few short years, when the Arctic sea ice is totally absent during the summer months, and the water and air up there get hot (instead of being cold as it was during the past 10,000 years or more), we have no idea what is going to happen to the weather and that includes any attempt to predict
intensities and frequencies of
hurricanes,
which, in my opinion, is a non sequitur.
«The IPCC Summary notes that there is evidence for increased
hurricane intensity in the North Atlantic,
which is correlated with higher sea surface temperatures.
What most people seem to forget here, is that on one hand there are fundamental thermodynamical arguments
which demand that
hurricane intensity increase over time, while on the other hand, there are these two big chunks of ice sitting in both polar regions,
which will counteract the warming process in their own special way.
One thing
which seems to be missing from the discussion is not whether or not
hurricanes will increase in
intensity and become more frequent but whether we will begin to see more storms make landfall in places that didn't historically get these kinds of events.
Which hurricanes we will reduce in intensity by our GHG reductions, we don't know, but since we care for all people, it doesn't matter which ones we help reduce, as long as we keep helping to reduce
Which hurricanes we will reduce in
intensity by our GHG reductions, we don't know, but since we care for all people, it doesn't matter
which ones we help reduce, as long as we keep helping to reduce
which ones we help reduce, as long as we keep helping to reduce them.
Some people have suggested that if SST (& GW) is increasing
hurricane intensity, it seems logical it would also be increasing
hurricane frequency (all other things being equal —
which I suppose they may not be), since the storms are moving up in category: 1 to 2, 2 to 3, etc., then some «tropical storms» would also be moving up to Cat.
This is the foundation of the Dvorak Enhanced Infrared (EIR) technique [Dvorak, 1984],
which is utilized by all tropical forecast offices in every ocean basin to estimate
hurricane intensity with geostationary infrared imagery.
Notably, issues such as why a given
hurricane stalled or took a particular track (problems in dynamics) could not reliably be attributed to anthropogenic climate change, unlike
intensity (
which is clearly related to the thermodynamic state of the atmosphere and oceans).
Perhaps the Trenberth Press Conference in
which the connection of
hurricane frequency and
intensity to GW was affirmed is an example of «alarmism».
I thought of some way in
which you could get more
intensity, without increased frequency: Perhaps
hurricanes & tropical storms are clubbing together into more intense storms (what would have been 2
hurricanes given lower SST, become 1 more intense
hurricane, given the higher SST).
This result is similar to that
which is reported in Webster et al. (2005), where they find: «This increase in category 4 and 5
hurricanes has not been accompanied by an increase in the actual
intensity of the most intense
hurricanes.
Based on the results of the causality tests, the author concludes that it is global near - surface air temperature that influences sea surface temperature, and not the other way around —
which supports the global warming - induced increase in
hurricane intensity.
While many studies of the effects of global warming on
hurricanes predict an increase in various metrics of Atlantic basin - wide activity, it is less clear that this signal will emerge from background noise in measures of
hurricane damage,
which depend largely on rare, high -
intensity landfalling events and are thus highly volatile compared to basin - wide storm metrics.
So, on the one hand you have the claim that Atlantic
hurricane intensity is controlled by the AMO, whose mechanism is poorly understood but
which has something to do with the meridional overturning circulation,
which is influenced by the sinking of water off of Greenland.
-- Increases in
intensity and frequency of heat waves and extreme precipitation events (a category in
which it includes droughts, floods,
hurricanes and major storms)
In particular, their claim that
hurricane activity (
which seems to be a poorly defined phrase — does it mean frequency +
intensity?)
In 2005, Emanuel reported that
hurricane intensity,
which is fed by warmth, had increased some 80 percent during the previous 50 years, a period during
which temperatures had increased more dramatically than any time in at least 500 years.
If so, this is one way in
which global warming may end up causing a decrease in Atlantic
hurricane activity over the coming decades, since the increased wind shear over the Atlantic during El Niño events greatly reduces the number and
intensity of these storms.»
There has been a substantial increase in most measures of Atlantic
hurricane activity since the early 1980s, the period during
which high quality satellite data are available.20, 21,22 These include measures of
intensity, frequency, and duration as well as the number of strongest (Category 4 and 5) storms.
The colour field underneath the wind arrows shows the precipitation rate on a scale from 0 to 20 mm per hour, noting that peaks in rainfall
intensity (
which may have been far higher than 20 mm / hr at times in localised regions within the
Hurricane circulation), are not resolved in this animation.
Not quite correct i'm afraid (though nearly right)-- there has been no observable increase in the frequency of storms (though, to be accurate, the research
which forms the basis for this statement was actually focused on subject of
hurricanes, not storms per se) but there has been substantial increase in their
intensity — particularly in US —
Hurricanes Sandy & Katrina ring any bells?
The
intensity of
Hurricane Maria,
which made landfall on Puerto Rico as a Category 4 storm on September 20, was part of why it was so devastating to the island and its weak infrastructure, leaving Puerto Ricans in a humanitarian crisis.
Global warming also increases both the risk and
intensity of
hurricanes —
which are dependent on sea surface temperatures — and the hazards of flooding, because global warming is linked to sea level rise.
There has been a substantial increase in most measures of Atlantic
hurricane activity since the early 1980s, the period during
which high - quality satellite data are available.13, 14,15,16,17 These include measures of
intensity, frequency, and duration as well as the number of strongest (Category 4 and 5) storms.
This, says Crompton, should not be surprising as there has been no observed increase in
hurricane frequency and
intensity at landfall over the period for
which normalization data is available.
Rising ocean temperatures have shifted the
intensity of tropical cyclones,
which include
hurricanes and typhoons, to higher levels.
Over the past 50 years there has been a strong statistical connection between tropical Atlantic sea surface temperatures and Atlantic
hurricane activity as measured by the Power Dissipation Index (
which combines storm
intensity, duration, and frequency).
However, the IPCC claims all ilk of adverse effect (extreme temperature, increased drought, increased flooding, increased
hurricane intensity, etc.), none of
which are corroborated.
This coupling of the atmosphere with the ocean enables the model to reproduce the cooling of the ocean surface beneath the
hurricane,
which has an important impact on
hurricane intensity.
Such precautions are still necessary say the scientists who caution that their study only looked at the tracking patterns of
hurricanes — and not their frequency and
intensity which are expected to increase.
Part I Re # 62 and # 61; Those issues relate back to the AMO's quite questionable role in Atlantic
hurricane intensity / frequency and Landsea et al's oblique attack on the more recent
hurricane intensity data in Science
which Chuck Booth links to.
With regards to their statements that the global data can not be trusted since they don't agree with climate model results (
which suggest a smaller increase in
hurricane intensity).
Regarding your blog entry on the V+S paper, one statement needs clarification: ``...
hurricane intensity has increased in recent decades as SST has risen (at least in the North Atlantic for
which trends are most reliable) and this prediction is based on fairly fundamental and robust thermodynamic arguments explored by Emanuel and others for decades now.»
Towards the end of his presentation he added: «Some research suggests global warming is linked to rising ocean and sea surface temperatures in the tropical Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico —
which may have an impact on
hurricane intensity.
# 207, so what I gain from your piece is that Katrina & Rita are well within «normal» & not as bad as the worst —
which means to me as a Rio Grande Valley resident, I have some extraordinarily big, perhaps Cat 6
hurricanes to worry about in the future with GW enhanced
hurricane intensity.
It is important to stress that there are many factors
which impact
hurricanes, and NOAA supports and values a wide variety of research
which will help to identify those factors and theirimpact on
hurricane frequency and / or
intensity.»
RE # 193 my legal understanding (as a layperson) would be that we can not make a criminal case re the link between CC &
hurricane intensity of a specific
hurricane,
which requires «beyond a resonable doubt» (sort of like a scientific standard of p <.05), but there could be a civil case,
which requires a «preponderance of evidence.»
The models heavily relied upon by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had not projected this multidecadal stasis in «global warming»; nor (until trained ex post facto) the fall in TS from 1940 - 1975; nor 50 years» cooling in Antarctica (Doran et al., 2002) and the Arctic (Soon, 2005); nor the absence of ocean warming since 2003 (Lyman et al., 2006; Gouretski & Koltermann, 2007); nor the onset, duration, or
intensity of the Madden - Julian intraseasonal oscillation, the Quasi-Biennial Oscillation in the tropical stratosphere, El Nino / La Nina oscillations, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, or the Pacific Decadal Oscillation that has recently transited from its warming to its cooling phase (oceanic oscillations
which, on their own, may account for all of the observed warmings and coolings over the past half - century: Tsoniset al., 2007); nor the magnitude nor duration of multi-century events such as the Mediaeval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age; nor the cessation since 2000 of the previously - observed growth in atmospheric methane concentration (IPCC, 2007); nor the active 2004
hurricane season; nor the inactive subsequent seasons; nor the UK flooding of 2007 (the Met Office had forecast a summer of prolonged droughts only six weeks previously); nor the solar Grand Maximum of the past 70 years, during
which the Sun was more active, for longer, than at almost any similar period in the past 11,400 years (Hathaway, 2004; Solankiet al., 2005); nor the consequent surface «global warming» on Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's largest moon, and even distant Pluto; nor the eerily - continuing 2006 solar minimum; nor the consequent, precipitate decline of ~ 0.8 °C in TS from January 2007 to May 2008 that has canceled out almost all of the observed warming of the 20th century.