The service's
ice data comes from the OSI SAF project, which is funded by the European Organisation for the Exploitation of Meteorological Satellites (EUMETSAT) and operated by Norway.
Not exact matches
«The study gives us a really good handle on how to approximate how much
ice Greenland is going to lose in the coming century,» says Ted Scambos of the US National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colora
ice Greenland is going to lose in the
coming century,» says Ted Scambos of the US National Snow and
Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colora
Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.
Security group calls U.S. unprepared for Arctic changes The analysis from the National Snow and
Ice Data Center comes on the heels of several scientific and policy papers in the past week warning about the consequences of Arctic ice lo
Ice Data Center
comes on the heels of several scientific and policy papers in the past week warning about the consequences of Arctic
ice lo
ice loss.
The
data to assess sea -
ice coverage
come from polar - orbiting satellites carrying passive - microwave sensors that can see through clouds.
Unlike previous Pliocene models, this «no
ice» version returned temperatures 18 to 27 F warmer than today's average annual temperatures for the Canadian Arctic and Greenland,
coming closer to what the historical
data pulled from the ground said.
That's because Schaefer and colleagues»
data comes from a single point in the middle of Greenland, pointing to a range of possible scenarios of what happened in the past, including several that challenge the image of Greenland being continuously covered by an extensive
ice sheet during the Pleistocene.
Since the
data the team collected only
came from samples off the east side of Greenland, their results don't provide a definitive picture of the whole Greenland
ice sheet.
The overarching goal for Bindschadler and many other Antarctic researchers is to hand off enough
data to modelers so they can figure out how the Antarctic
ice is going to change in the
coming decades, and how those changes will affect the rest of the world.
Analysis of the
data showed that despite isolated cases where
ice volume and thickness increased, none of the advancing glaciers have come close to the maximums achieved during the so - called «Little Ice Age» — a period of cooling between the sixteenth and the nineteenth centu
ice volume and thickness increased, none of the advancing glaciers have
come close to the maximums achieved during the so - called «Little
Ice Age» — a period of cooling between the sixteenth and the nineteenth centu
Ice Age» — a period of cooling between the sixteenth and the nineteenth century.
The
data they gather will set scientists up with a solid baseline to monitor future changes and predict what
comes next as Antarctica's floating
ice shelves retreat and even collapse due to climate change.
Arctic sea -
ice cover is predicted from
coming July 1 to November 1, using the
data from satellite microwave sensors, AMSR - E (2002/03 -2010 / 11) and AMSR2 (2012/13 -2016 / 17).
[Further Response: Our estimates of the magnitude of future global warming do not
come from
ice core
data, and do not depend on it in any way.
So again it
comes back to the proxy
data, is there lots of cooling, or just lots of
ice, or both?
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Clifford Mass disagreement is incoherent, not at all in line with reality, he has to make a case when significant sigmas show warming when there is actually GT cooling, actually I am sure that there are contrarians out there who believe in the looming
coming ice age, but strictly looking at
data from the Arctic, there is a great warming happening.
Dr Maslowski made an estimate in 2007 which used
data through 2004 and
came up with 2013 as the first year with a total meltdown of arctic sea
ice.
Dr. Pollard and Dr. DeConto ran a five - million - year computer simulation of the
ice sheet's
comings and goings, using
data on past actual climate and ocean conditions gleaned from seabed samples (the subject of the other paper) to validate the resulting patterns.
The CO2 level
comes from half a dozen different
ice core analyses, while the temperature
data come from marine sediments, pollen analyses, isotopes, corals etc..
I would also add that the «prediction» made by # 11 about what a D - O event would look like is based on the Greenland
ice core records, and the picture of «abrupt warming / slow cooling» picture
comes from the
data on millennial timescales.
Surely the IPCC and others at GISS can
come up with based on the based available observational evidence and paretial difference equations and paleo climatic
data a bloody good guess as to what response
ice sheets will have to a known temperature rise
come BAU to overall CO2 levels of 450 to 550 ppmv
come the centurys end.
In our paper, based on
data from Jason Box from the Geologic Survey of Denmark and Greenland, we estimated that the Greenland
ice sheet has already
come out of equilibrium since the beginning of the 20th century and has since added about 13,000 cubic kilometers of meltwater to the ocean.
[Further Response: Our estimates of the magnitude of future global warming do not
come from
ice core
data, and do not depend on it in any way.
The application of trends to climate
data began in the 1970s with the prediction of a
coming ice age as temperatures declined from 1940.
At least relative to my questions above, what struck me was the possibility of starting with your reduction and analysis of the snow cover / fall anomaly
data to
come up with a research project based on some quite complicated but fascinating calculations on net TOA energy balance as a result of your conclusion about the relation of Arctic sea
ice loss to NH snow cover / amount anomaly.
The pre-1960
data, which
comes from
ice core samples, has many more problems.
Ironically, NASA
data from this same graph sparked the «
coming ice age» scare of the 1970s.
All that is required is to take, as a working hypothesis the fairly small and reasonable step of accepting that the recent peak was also a peak in the 1000 year cycle This periodicity seen in seen in the temperature proxy and
ice core
data data in Figs 3 and 4 in the last post at http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com This post also contains a forecast of the timing and extent of the
coming cooling.
My other point to him at the time was that the Industrial Revolution was actually quite limited and that it wasn't until the forties last century that industry spread, but he ignored this as he ignored the email about getting rid of the MWP and LIA and when I found the Vostok
data, and began to appreciate the great cycles within our
Ice Age, he dismissed these too and
came back to the claim that our temps had been «flat normal» and our fault that we were changing this by our increased production of carbon dioxide as the Hockey Stick showed.
This «new evidence» is based on a single analysis of «proxy»
data (that is,
data that do not
come from thermometers but rather from sources like tree rings,
ice cores, corals, and ocean and lake sediments) showing the twentieth century to be the warmest in the past thousand years.
Our sea
ice prediction data sources come from the National Snow and Ice Data Cent
ice prediction
data sources come from the National Snow and Ice Data Cen
data sources
come from the National Snow and
Ice Data Cent
Ice Data Cen
Data Center.
Regarding the comment https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/11/the-bbcs-richard-black-engages-in-goldilocks-picking/#comment-698615 I would like to point that the reliability of the Greenland
ice core
data is
coming under strong scrutiny.
Note: The Sea
Ice Index input
data comes from the passive microwave instrument on the DMSP satellites, but IMS uses the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer - Earth Observing System (AMSR - E) instrument on the Aqua satellite from 2002 to 2011.
The input
data comes from the 1 km and 4 km Interactive Multisensor Snow and
Ice Mapping System (IMS) snow and ice product produced by the National Ice Center (NI
Ice Mapping System (IMS) snow and
ice product produced by the National Ice Center (NI
ice product produced by the National
Ice Center (NI
Ice Center (NIC).
Early in my research I
came across the topic of CO2 lagging behind the temperature
data in the
ice core
data.
This
data comes from a paper lead authored by Australian climate scientist John Church that tallies up the heat accumulating in the oceans, warming the land and atmosphere and melting the
ice:
Therefore, warmists, I agree that CAGW is theorectically possble and can not be ruled out just as every other trendline (like the
coming ice age) can not be ruled out due to the paucity of
data and understanding we presently have.
That's an oversight that I intend to rectify, starting with a dissection of Solomon's recent misrepresentation of the latest Arctic sea
ice extent
data, said to «augur»
coming «global cooling».
Modern day
data on what is happening beneath the
ice sheets is difficult to
come by.
These
data came from near the bottom of the hole, where the
ice layers were squeezed tissue - thin and probably folded and distorted as they flowed over the bedrock.
Although researchers may still largely be dealing in uncertainties when it
comes to predicting Greenland's exact fate, the
data and observations that continue to trickle in suggest a «greener» (see:
ice - free) future for the island nation.
All evidence points to a
coming Ice Age, which is due anytime soon, and that is backed up by solid 100 % real world historical
data, not some BS computer models with programmers in the pay of the environmental movement.
And regardless of the accuracy of this paleo
data, we are talking roughly 4 degrees
coming out of the
ice age over 8,000 years.
The
data on this winter's
ice buildup
came on the day that international ministers gathered in Washington to address issues facing Earth's polar regions, which have been disproportionately affected by global warming.
The earlier
data comes from some sort of proxy analysis (
ice cores, tree rings, sediments, etc.) While we know these proxies generally change with temperature, there are still a lot of questions as to their accuracy and, perhaps more importantly for us here, whether they vary linearly or have any sort of attenuation of the peaks.
It is not possible to calculate the effect of anthropogenic CO2 until we know within closer limits what the natural variation is.For example if you look at the
ice core data for the Holocene and if you believe that CO2 is the climate driver you would have to conclude that on a scale of thousands of years CO2 was an Ice House — not a green house gas.For the data and an estimate of the coming cooling for the next few hundred years check the post» Climate Forecasting for Britain's Seven Alarmist Scientists and for UK Politicians.&raq
ice core
data for the Holocene and if you believe that CO2 is the climate driver you would have to conclude that on a scale of thousands of years CO2 was an
Ice House — not a green house gas.For the data and an estimate of the coming cooling for the next few hundred years check the post» Climate Forecasting for Britain's Seven Alarmist Scientists and for UK Politicians.&raq
Ice House — not a green house gas.For the
data and an estimate of the
coming cooling for the next few hundred years check the post» Climate Forecasting for Britain's Seven Alarmist Scientists and for UK Politicians.»
Anyone
coming to this debate should really look at the
ice core
data before even starting discussions.
IPCC has been myopically fixating on the recent «blip» in our climate (measured since 1850, but with emphasis starting around 1976), trying to tie it to another «blip» in atmospheric CO2 (measured since 1958, with some somewhat questionable
ice core
data before 1958), which IPCC is assuming has
come from anthropogenic sources.