Second, the abstract admits that, «Pleistocene climate oscillations yield a fast - feedback climate sensitivity of 3 ± 1 °C for a 4 W m − 2 CO2 forcing if Holocene warming relative to the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) is used as calibration, but the error (uncertainty) is substantial and partly subjective» and also «
Ice sheet response time is poorly defined».
Ice sheet response time is poorly defined, but we show that the slow response and hysteresis in prevailing ice sheet models are exaggerated.
Not exact matches
More specifically, can one define the
response time of a particular
ice sheet?
... Polar amplification explains in part why Greenland
Ice Sheet and the West Antarctic
Ice Sheet appear to be highly sensitive to relatively small increases in CO2 concentration and global mean temperature... Polar amplification occurs if the magnitude of zonally averaged surface temperature change at high latitudes exceeds the globally averaged temperature change, in
response to climate forcings and on
time scales greater than the annual cycle.
[this is useful, the pre-
ice age era, ~ 2.5 — 3.6 million years ago, last
time CO2 levels were as high as today] In
response to Pliocene climate,
ice sheet models consistently produce near - complete deglaciation of the Greenland
ice sheet (+7 m) and West Antarctic
ice sheet (+4 m) and retreat of the marine margins of the Eastern Antarctic
ice sheet (+3 m)(Lunt et al., 2008; Pollard and DeConto, 2009; Hill et al., 2010), altogether corresponding to a global mean sea level rise of up to 14 m.
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Response: Here's a simple back - of - envelope consideration for the future: if the Greenland
ice sheet melts completely over the next ~ 1,000 years (Jim Hansen argues in the current Climatic Change that the
time scale could be centuries), this would contribute an average flux of ~ 0.1 Sv of freshwater to the surrounding ocean.
«This uncertainty is illustrated by Pollard et al. (2015), who found that addition of hydro - fracturing and cliff failure into their
ice sheet model increased simulated sea level rise from 2 m to 17 m, in
response to only 2 °C ocean warming and accelerated the
time for substantial change from several centuries to several decades.»
Of course I can not prove that my choice of a ten - year doubling
time for nonlinear
response is accurate, but I am confident that it provides a far better estimate than a linear
response for the
ice sheet component of sea level rise under BAU forcing.
To quote «Proof is obtained by considering the contrary:
ice sheet forcing approximately 3W / m ^ 2 and a 5 kyr
timing gap between forcing and
response, as appears to be the case at Termination IV (figure 2c), is 15,000 W yr / m ^ 2, enough to warm the upper kilometre of the ocean by approximately 160 C» (pdf page 7) This is his justification for modifying the data - not my «characterization» of what he said.
The millennial (500-2000 year)
time scale of deep ocean ventilation affects the
time scale for natural CO2 change and thus the
time scale for paleo global climate,
ice sheet, and sea level changes, but this paleo millennial
time scale should not be misinterpreted as the
time scale for
ice sheet response to a rapid large human - made climate forcing.
This thin
ice cap is very different from the Greenland Ice Sheet where the enormous thickness gives it a very slow response time and the type of process you are suggesting can opera
ice cap is very different from the Greenland
Ice Sheet where the enormous thickness gives it a very slow response time and the type of process you are suggesting can opera
Ice Sheet where the enormous thickness gives it a very slow
response time and the type of process you are suggesting can operate.
A lowering of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels near the beginning of this
time period occurred in
response to the rise of land plants and likely cooled Earth, but the rapid growth of extensive Gondwanan
ice sheets was delayed for tens of millions of years, until the Late Mississippian.»
To avoid long
response times in extreme climates, today's
ice sheets are assigned surface properties of the tundra, thus allowing them to have a high albedo snow cover in cold climates but darker vegetation in warm climates.
This millennial carbon cycle
time scale should not be misinterpreted as the
ice sheet time scale for
response to a rapid human - made climate forcing.
We argue that
ice sheets in contact with the ocean are vulnerable to non-linear disintegration in
response to ocean warming, and we posit that
ice sheet mass loss can be approximated by a doubling
time up to sea level rise of at least several meters.
Examples: Weertman (1976a)(Northwestern Univ., IL, and the U.S. Army Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory, Hanover, NH); note also his pioneering calculation of
ice sheet buildup and shrinkage
times, Weertman (1964); Sergin (1979)(Laboratory for Mathematical Modeling of the Climate, Pacific Institute of Geography of Academy of Sciences, Vladivostok, but written while visiting NCAR, Boulder, CO); Budd and Smith (1981)(Meteorology Dept., U. Melbourne); as a perhaps more typical example, Young (1979)(Antarctic Division, Dept. of Science and Technology, Kingston, Tasmania) conservatively showed a
response time of perhaps 20,000 years; an especially influential model involving
ice sheet buildup delay was Imbrie and Imbrie (1980); a good review is Budd (1981).
The Greenland and Antarctic
ice sheets have much larger masses and consequently much longer
time constants, but there is already observational evidence of nonlinear
response.
For the
ice sheets the answer is probably no (but experts on the subject might have a better idea), but for the overturning circulation or the ecosystem changes, the answer is probably yes — i.e. a slower rate of warming could lead to a different
response (allowing
time for ocean mixing to mitigate the effects, or adaptation of species to the new conditions).