To say, therefore, that Jesus took the Jewish
idea of God at its best but had no new idea of his own presents a false antithesis.
At the conclusion of one of her books of philosophy, The Fire and the Sun: Why Plato Banished the Artists, Murdoch summarizes her view of the artist's role in modern life: «To present
the idea of God at all, even as a myth, is a consolation.»
Instead, he criticizes from the perspective of Christian revelation
those ideas of God at which philosophy, including Christian philosophy, has arrived.
Not exact matches
You tend to side with some
idea of a personal
God and idealize that
God as lovey - dovey —
at other times (though far less) you are clearly «Atheish».
But spouting the
idea that
god created and designed everything in an environment such as NASA means that you are intentionally suspending rational thought, and in this kind
of environment that seems, to me
at least, unacceptable.
yo the thing is not about believing or not, is the fact that if we don't believe then we are worthless living garbage who occupy a space in the universe only to create crap and pollution, in that kind
of case we would better be recycled into some industrial material for a better use than eating and living like cattle, but if there is a
god we acquire a divine status and a purpose to continue to exist beyond afterlife or
at least the
idea of it, which would give life a sense right?
For crying out loud — why would ANYONE bother following the
ideas of bronze - age people who all thought multiple
gods created a small, flat Earth sitting
at the center
of a tiny universe rotating around it... daily.
Atheist reject the
idea of a
god and believe their view to be true or they would be agnostic unless they choose no stance
at all
of a
god that
of which would require unknowing
of what the term «
god» means so it would fall under a belief and since they can't prove that a
god doesn't exist then by definition it requires faith for their view, meaning it would effect their view
of the cause, nature, and purpose
of the universe if a
god was proven to be true.
Todays Religions are tomorrows Mythologies, During the days
of the Greek and Roman empires their
Gods were as real to them as our
Gods are to us today, Yet today we find their
Gods a silly
idea Given a few thousand years our ancestors will laugh
at the silliness
of people following
God / Jesus while they follow the deity
of their day.
I wouldn't call Spenser a greater poet, but he saw the human condition and our often - anguished journey toward
God in a richer, more humane way than Milton did, who
at the end
of the day was more interested in
ideas than people.
So
at the end
of the day, even as a follower
of the teachings
of Jesus Christ (the name Christian has been so stained, refuse to call myself one to distance myself from traitors to
God like Bush and just about every Conservative American), I'd vote for an astheist with good
ideas and was brave enough to push for the interests
of people, not corporations, then I would vote for them.
But it is a little astonishing that, in a three - thousand - word article in First Things, Hitchens devotes just a couple
of sentences to the
idea at the core
of the AA program: the Higher Power, otherwise «
God.»
If you feel that that you can so affirmitvely conclude that there is no
God then you would
at least have to have to start with very definitive
idea of what
God is and what are
God's intentions.
They move chunks
of information around in ways nothing else can — as payloads that convey intolerance, suppression
of ideas and opinions, even violence
at times, and persecution
of dissenters, all with the weight behind it
of an all - powerful
God and it's eternal rewards and punishments that are conveniently hidden in an unknowable afterlife.
It forbids, for example, arriving in metaphysics
at the notion
of a
God that would not be the exemplification
of metaphysical
ideas.
@Kev: «If you feel that that you can so affirmitvely conclude that there is no
God then you would
at least have to have to start with very definitive
idea of what
God is and what are
God's intentions.»
If your
god is real, why hasn't he inspired every sincere seeker to
at least understand one or two basic aspects
of his existence right, such as the
idea that there is only one
god as opposed to multiple
gods?
At what point did the
idea that all people are created in the image
of God lose its currency and appeal?
And, Jeremy, would you please look
at topic
of commonly - heard
ideas that may or may not have biblical basis — one mentioned in these comments — is that
God chooses the time
of our death.
Only faith derived from Christian preaching is able to deduce the certainty
of God acting upon us even from those fragments, which otherwise would remain only a small part
of the history
of ideas, and quite a problematic part
at that.»
Now, thanks to his technology, man has acquired power, has got rid
of his guardians and
of the
idea of God's fatherhood, and
at the same time has acquired a new, a rational and scientific mentality.
It will be seen that the new doctrine requires careful and somewhat elaborate distinctions, and yet, if some
of its supporters are right, the doctrine is nothing
at all but the analysis
of the simple
idea that
God is «the perfectly loving individual,» in all respects possessed
of the properties which this
idea requires, even if non-perfection in some respects be among the requirements.
Reinforcing in advance the claim I have put forth
at the end
of Part Two, Hartshorne went on to point out: «Just as the Stoics said the ideal was to have good will toward all but not in such fashion as to depend in any [221] degree for happiness upon their fortunes or misfortunes, so Christian theologians, who scarcely accepted this
idea in their ethics, nevertheless adhered to it in characterizing
God.»
But the
idea that if a man pleases
God then
God will especially shield him belongs to the dim twilight
of religion and not to Christianity
at all.
Once we establish the
idea that Eden was perfect, rather than it being Good and
at best, Very Good, we begin a frantic journey
of a restoration
of perfection and salvation is finding a way to forgive fallen broken creation for its lapse from perfection so we can be loved by «
God» again.
Oh, the Calvinists could make perfect sense
of it all with a wave
of a hand and a swift, confident explanation about how Zarmina had been born in sin and likely predestined to spend eternity in hell to the glory
of an angry
God (they called her a «vessel
of destruction»); about how I should just be thankful to be spared the same fate since it's what I deserve anyway; about how the Asian tsunami was just another one
of God's temper tantrums sent to remind us all
of His rage
at our sin; about how I need not worry because «there is not one maverick molecule in the universe» so every hurricane, every earthquake, every war, every execution, every transaction in the slave trade, every rape
of a child is part
of God's sovereign plan, even
God's
idea; about how my objections to this paradigm represented unrepentant pride and a capitulation to humanism that placed too much inherent value on my fellow human beings; about how my intuitive sense
of love and morality and right and wrong is so corrupted by my sin nature I can not trust it.
In this column we hope to chronicle some
of the statements and initiatives that, by the grace
of God and in accordance with
ideas articulated by the Second Vatican Council, are aimed
at the «New Evangelisation»
of our culture.
It is entirely possible, and has always been possible, to be an atheist as a Boy Scout, if you can accept the basic
idea of a moral something - or - other to which we should hold ourselves accountable, as long as you are comfortable calling it
God at least as a metaphor.
There a plenty
of non-trinitarian Christian denominations like the Christadelphians, Christian Scientists, Dawn Bible Students, Friends General Conference, Iglesia ni Cristo, Members Church
of God International, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, La Luz del Mundo, Living Church
of God, Oneness Pentecostals, Unitarian Universalist Christians and the United Church
of God... The very
idea of the Trinity didn't become Christian dogma until some 300 years after Christ's death, and even then it was quite a debate
at the Council
of Nicea...
Stephen Fry speaking about atheists: «The glory — anything — we take credit for what is great about man and we take blame for what is dreadful about man, we neither grovel or apologise
at the feet
of a
god, or are so infantile as to project the
idea that we once had a father as human beings and we therefore should have a divine one too.
But behind Lincoln's understanding
of history was his
idea of a
God «who
at times seems to want to frustrate the Statesman» (John Diggins, The Lost Soul
of American Politics [Basic, 1984]-RRB- Lincoln «doubted that man could ever grasp
God's will and therefore believed that human action would always be estranged from divine intention» (p. 330) Lincoln divined that
God is both hidden and revealed.
Yes, in particular, it is LUDICROUS that this «
god» «chose» an arrogant people in a Middle Eastern desert
at a time when there was no internet and when those people thought the world was flat and consisted
of the Mediterranean Sea and its surrounding lands (i.e., they had NO
IDEA about the «New World», Antarctica.
The two strands in theology, then, are as follows: There is the popular or operative religious
idea of the
God of love, perfect in lovingness, and hence all - understanding and everlasting, so that nothing has ever been or ever can be deprived
of his love while existent
at all.
You're asking them to believe in a bunch
of stuff attached to the
God idea, some
of it quite harmful, that wouldn't make any sense
at all without believing in
God, right?
This is the concept
of that beyond which thought can not go, in which it completes its search for understanding,
at which it really affirms only itself, and through which it relates all else.2 Leaving aside his views on its historical character, this is what R. G. Collingwood seems to be suggesting when he says that Anselm's argument does not prove «that because our
idea of God is an ideal
of id quo maius cogitari nequit therefore
God exists, but that because our
idea of God is an
idea of id quo maius cogitari nequit we stand committed to belief in
God's existence.
There's also ridiculous threats from
God in there that reflect on the knowledge and intelligence
of anyone
at the time who would accept the
idea of unicorns, dragons, or angels that killed tens
of thousands
of people.
At least according to YOUR definition
of «
god» perhaps.By placing your «
god» outside
of the known universe, you then protect your flawed
idea of a
god from scrutiny, simply saying
god doesn't have to play by the rules, is pure speculation in a) the existance
of a «
god» and b) where or how this «
god» exists if not in our existance.
It has been suggested (and the
idea has merit) that,
at the moment our sins were placed on Jesus» shoulders,
God's spirit left because He could not abide the presence
of sin.
At the time, I really bought into the
idea that tithing was obeying
God, but when I studied the Bible, I found that one
of the main purposes for the tithes was to provide for the poor.
The
idea of a kingdom
of Satan
at war with the kingdom
of God, and temporarily dominant in the world, appears in one Greek manuscript in an addition to the long ending
of Mark: «The limit
of the years
of the authority
of Satan is fulfilled.»
You're confused, Demuth.The
idea that «everyone is a child
of God «has no Biblical basis whatsoever; who told you otherwise?Only those born again in Christ via the regenerative power
of the Holy Spirit are children
of God in the Bilical sense.If you are going to comment on biblical issues
at least get your theology straight; otherwise you sound just as silly as the other
God - haters on this blog.
Freedom
of speech... i am all for it, what i do nt get is where the come up with the
idea that
God and Jesus Christ is a Myth???
At that point, what is the point
of your religion?
All
of his rambling above seems to be a poor attempt
at reconciling the flaws with religion with the ingrained
idea that
god must exist.
At last, the gorgeous surface
of things comes to appear as a true mystery, a sacrament destined to transform our imaginations, leading us to reread the world as a poem produced by the one
idea, the one who imagines things into being, the sun who is also and always the Son
of God.
In this situation how could we give meaningful content to the
idea that
God extends subjective aims to the various actors in the little drama we have constructed, that is, provides subjective aims which have the potential,
at least, to affect the outcome
of events, and have, therefore, the potential to affect the character
of God's future experience?
The fact that Christians actually engage in completely selfish motives, even to the
idea of being saved in order to avoid their
god's eternal wrath, and grow perverse as masochists
at best.
And furthermore, the devil's
idea of authority is
at odds with that
of God.
It seeks «to preserve the
idea of the divine as the true concern
of religion» and
at the same time «to destroy the reality
of the
idea of God and thereby also the reality
of our relation to Him.»
Thus there is no need for us to be alarmed
at such
ideas as that
of God «animating» the world
of matter, or
of the whole world «becoming incarnate»: we shall find plenty
of parallels in St Paul and in the traditional theological doctrine
of the omnipresence
of God.
Evolutionary theists would concur with the IDT advocates that
at some point the search for adequate explanation must appeal to the notion
of divine intelligence — or better, divine wisdom — if the
idea of God is to have any relevance
at all, However, they are not obsessed with the
idea of design.