In eternity past, God did not choose who He would unconditionally and irresistibly bring into His church, but rather, decided that all those who believed in Jesus and in so doing became members of His church, to them He would give the task of being a blessing to the world by sharing serving one another, declaring God's grace, and loving others just as He has loved us.
His development inside his mother was the same as yours or mine, with one very important distinction, no human s.p.e.r.m. Jesus was with or part of God
in eternity past, the only difference is that when he walked the earth, he wore a human body.
The basic explanation of Unconditional Election is that God,
in eternity past, had an eternal decree by which He predetermined all things that would happen.
As a result, we are totally dependent upon God to initiate salvation for us, which He did
in eternity past by choosing to save some, without any condition or merit on the part of those whom He chose (Unconditional Election).
Instead, Paul is saying that God decided
in eternity past to make sure that everyone and anyone who joins His family by faith will finally and ultimately be brought into conformity to Jesus Christ at their glorification.
(Isaiah 40:17, Daniel 4:35, Isaiah 42:1, Matthew 3:17, 17:5, Ephesians 5:2) And in order that He might demonstrate His love, and to bring glory and honor, and praise to Himself, and in order to demonstrate His relative attributes of mercy, grace, justice, and loving - kindness, He devised a plan
in eternity past to create a universe where His creation would rebel against Him, and He would send forth His Son to the world to be born of a virgin, to live a perfect and sinless life, and to die a subst.itutionary death on a cross, shedding His blood for the forgiveness of sins.
So this choice took place
in eternity past, before the foundation of the world.
Everytime I try to conceive of God
in eternity past, I hit a stumbling block.
In eternity Past, Present and Future, FATHER IS FATHER To His SON.
For if, as Calvinists teach, God,
in eternity past, chose some people to be the beneficiaries of His grace so that they, out of all the people of the world, might alone receive eternal life from Him, then Israel, as God's elect people, should all unconditionally receive eternal life from God.
Except I'll add that the thing doing the determining is the sovereign will of God, determined in His own councils
in eternity past.
God's love, righteousness, grace, mercy, and wrath are the same today as
in eternity past, and will be the same in eternity forward.
In Romans 8:29 - 30, Paul looks at our future glorification in eternity from the perspective of God
in eternity past.
Yes, that is one possible ramification of believing that God hardened Pharaoh's heart
in eternity past.
God imagined the entirety of creation
in eternity past before He ever spoke the first «Let there be...» of His epic story, creating every micro and macro part of His infinitely complex, undeniably beautiful and «good» creation.
Not exact matches
You'll almost certainly dodge that question by claiming he has always existed, so if that's the case, what suddenly prompted God to create a universe filled with over 100 billion galaxies containing a trillion trillion stars after spending an
eternity extending into the
past existing alone
in an absolute void of nothingness?
@Vic: For the sake of argument, let's suppose the universe was created by an all powerful being who had existed for an
eternity extending into the
past in emptiness of the nothingness that was before he got bored and created the universe with its 170 billion or more galaxies and trillion trillion stars.
-- God existed for an
eternity in the
past prior to creating the universe.
The idea that we will spend
eternity in heaven comes more from pagan religion than from Scripture, and has only been prominent
in the church for the
past 500 years or so.
The whole story about some god punishing a person for all of
eternity for not believing
in your particular brand of religion might scare a child enought to believe but most adults are way
past such a silly concept.
In this debate, Calvinists say that God hardened Pharaoh's heart first from
eternity past because God needed a vessel of destruction through whom to reveal His wrath.
People have rejected theism because they held untenable the idea of a mind not subject to change or to interaction with other beings, or a mind omnipotent
in the sense that its power was all the power
in existence, or a mind having precise knowledge of details of the future (or of all times from the standpoint of
eternity), or a mind creating a first state of the cosmos at a finite time
in the
past, or knowing all suffering although it did not itself suffer, or an all - embracing mind which
in no sense could be identified with the universe, or one which could
in every sense be identified with it.
First, it is important to note that
in the surrounding context, there is nothing anywhere about some sovereign decree of God regarding whom He has chosen from
eternity past to redeem and reconcile to Himself
in eternity future.
Paul shows that all those whom God foreknew from
eternity past will ultimately and finally be glorified with God
in eternity future.
As with therapy, the first step
in moving forward
in eternity is to make sense of the
past.
To fully generalize the foregoing view, even the laws of nature, so far as contingent, are to be attributed to divine decisions made, not
in eternity or for all time, but at a finite time
in the
past.
Few contemporary theologians have yet understood how, for Aquinas, the simplicity of God's
eternity embraces as presence all the spatiotemporal events of
past, present, and future
in the transcendent, noncoercive presence of Infinite Consciousness.
It was an event
in the history of salvation,
in the realm of
eternity...,
in an analogous way, history comes to an end
in the religious experience of any Christian «who is
in Christ»... For although the advent of Christ is an historical event which happened «once»
in the
past, it is, at the same time, an eternal event which occurs again and again
in the soul of any Christian.»
Alas the time of opportunity for choice is now
past and they must for
eternity live with the decision they made
in those few short years of temporal living.
50) who took over Plato's concept of
eternity in which there is neither
past nor future but only present.
Mary prepared Jesus a spiritual feast, something He could enjoy and feast on just two days before He endured the worst hours
in his entire existence — from
eternity past to
eternity future.
For to judge by the outcome (whereby an attempt is made to unite a judgment of temporal existence and of
eternity into a judgment that comes after the event is
past) is not humanly possible
in the instant that a man himself acts, nor is it possible
in the instant when others act.
Paul's point
in Romans 8 is that God determined from
eternity past to bring us to glorification despite our many weaknesses and failures.
In Romans 8:28 - 30, Paul is not talking about an eternal decree from eternity past about to whom He would give eternal life, but rather, God's plan from eternity past to bring those who believe in Jesus into conformity to the image of Jesus Christ, which does not fully occur until glorification (cf. Eph 1:4; 4:1; 5:27; Col 1:22 - 23
In Romans 8:28 - 30, Paul is not talking about an eternal decree from
eternity past about to whom He would give eternal life, but rather, God's plan from
eternity past to bring those who believe
in Jesus into conformity to the image of Jesus Christ, which does not fully occur until glorification (cf. Eph 1:4; 4:1; 5:27; Col 1:22 - 23
in Jesus into conformity to the image of Jesus Christ, which does not fully occur until glorification (cf. Eph 1:4; 4:1; 5:27; Col 1:22 - 23).
Here I agree with Robert Neville
in his book
Eternity and Time's Flow that eternity or the divine act of being is «the togetherness of the modes of time — past, present, and future — so that each can be its temporal self&raqu
Eternity and Time's Flow that
eternity or the divine act of being is «the togetherness of the modes of time — past, present, and future — so that each can be its temporal self&raqu
eternity or the divine act of being is «the togetherness of the modes of time —
past, present, and future — so that each can be its temporal self» (60).
Our evil now belongs to the
past, it is now written yonder
in eternity.
It's been next to an
eternity and we rarely get
past the last sixteen
in the champion's league.
Pillars of
Eternity is a masterclass
in role - playing game development, recapturing the essence of the genre's
past triumphs and repackaging them for a universal audience.
Her musing recalls Kore - eda's «After Life» (1998), a post-mortem fantasy about souls
in a heavenly waiting station who must choose the
past moment that they want to relive through
eternity.
Old Hunters DLC is set
in a complete new nightmare world, a world that houses
past hunters where they are trapped for an
eternity.
Solve the mystery of its
past, or become a fixture
in its halls for all
eternity!
And this despite his professed belief
in metaphysical timelessness: «Time does not exist,» he wrote to Apollinaire
in July 1916, «and on the great curve of
eternity the
past is the same as the future.»
RealClimate is wonderful, and an excellent source of reliable information.As I've said before, methane is an extremely dangerous component to global warming.Comment # 20 is correct.There is a sharp melting point to frozen methane.A huge increase
in the release of methane could happen within the next 50 years.At what point
in the Earth's temperature rise and the rise of co2 would a huge methane melt occur?No one has answered that definitive issue.If I ask you all at what point would huge amounts of extra methane start melting, i.e at what temperature rise of the ocean near the Artic methane ice deposits would the methane melt, or at what point
in the rise of co2 concentrations
in the atmosphere would the methane melt, I believe that no one could currently tell me the actual answer as to where the sharp melting point exists.Of course, once that tipping point has been reached, and billions of tons of methane outgass from what had been locked stores of methane, locked away for an
eternity, it is exactly the same as the burning of stored fossil fuels which have been stored for an
eternity as well.And even though methane does not have as long a life as co2, while it is around
in the air it can cause other tipping points, i.e. permafrost melting, to arrive much sooner.I will reiterate what I've said before on this and other sites.Methane is a hugely underreported, underestimated risk.How about RealClimate attempts to model exactly what would happen to other tipping points, such as the melting permafrost, if indeed a huge increase
in the melting of the methal hydrate ice WERE to occur within the next 50 years.My amateur guess is that the huge, albeit temporary, increase
in methane over even three or four decades might push other relevent tipping points to arrive much, much, sooner than they normally would, thereby vastly incresing negative feedback mechanisms.We KNOW that quick, huge, changes occured
in the Earth's climate
in the
past.See other relevent posts
in the
past from Realclimate.Climate often does not change slowly, but undergoes huge, quick, changes periodically, due to negative feedbacks accumulating, and tipping the climate to a quick change.Why should the danger from huge potential methane releases be vievwed with any less trepidation?