Especially considering that
in trad pub you'll work with professionals who do that for a living and have likely done it for a number of years.
Instead of the tsunami of crap so many predicted, a bunch of great writers who were denied a real chance
in the trad pub world started delivering amazing quality at low - low prices.
For some time now we've seen how senior editors
in trad pub have delegated more of the scut work to either junior assistants or primarily onto the backs of the writers themselves.
Big name authors
in the trad pub world have lots of incentives to stay (they get lots of marketing $ and support).
As I close in on 50 novels published, I don't think I'm suffering from a lack of my work being available, so see no reason to kill myself on more than a novel every quarter, which
in trad pub circles would be considered near miraculous, and for me would be a vacation.
Assisted self - pub: This is for the folks who are interested
in trad pub because of the cover design, editing, and formatting.
Editors» abilities can vary widely
in trad pub.
Kindle subcontracts editing to Kirkus and, according to Max, «it was strictly a one way street,» unlike the give and take
in the trad pub editing process.
I have a friend doing very very well
in trad pub.
It doesn't exist in Indie publishing,, and it doesn't exist
in Trad Pub.
Yes, there are poor work
in the trad pub world, particularly due to «rush publishing» and also when certain poorly skilled entrepreneurs create micro-publishing companies.
Some of the biggest indie authors first got their start
in trad pub, while others never sent out a single query letter before hitting it big.
I've been fielding emails for years from readers asking why that book was priced so high when the rest of the books in the series (this is the series that started out
in trad pub and that is now self pub) ranged from free to about $ 4.99.
I'd say, if I were curious / interested
in trad pub and I was a self - pubbed author, I might consider offering up a purely commercial one - off, standalone.
Since turning indie I'm starting to find that audience that was so lacking
in my trad pubbed days.
Now that they are bringing
in trad pubbed offerings, it's even more difficult to snag a slot with them.
Heather, the thing you are overlooking
in trad pubbed VS self pubbed are the indies like me who hire a professional team and follow the good parts about the NY model.
Not exact matches
In terms of
trad pub vs indie — most
trad publishers don't want to publish collections of short fiction by unknowns, but you can submit to magazines and anthologies as well as self - publishing collections or using them for marketing.
I agree completely with Jackie Barbosa above
in that the real takeaway from this snippet of data is the unconscionably huge portion of earnings that the
trad pubs get from each ebook they sell.
So my love for them is deeper, but I've never thought
trad pubs were anything but large dominant players
in a business where my goals ran toward setting up a nice cottage industry
in the cracks they missed.
with
trad pub in a nutshell.
I was «this close» to being offered a
trad -
pub contract way back
in 2011, and I'm sorry to say that I would have been ignorant enough and desperate enough to take it, no matter how predatory the terms were.
My first traditionally published novel, Transgression, only sold about 6,000 copies
in its
trad -
pubbed edition.
Books 2 and 3
in that «City of God» series are selling well and earning much better than they did
in their first editions as
trad -
pubbed novels.
For example, if you are dead - set on going
trad -
pub, the chances of you making enough money
in the beginning is fairly remote.
This is how I sold my first several books and how many of my
trad -
pubbed friends broke
in to publishing and I have long believed it's the best way to make contacts.
But none
in the traditional publishing arena, because, however lousy one reader or another may think a
trad -
pubbed book, at the very least SOMEBODY liked it besides the author.
That sounds terrible, but
in fact, your marketing situation is even worse as a
trad -
pubbed author, for two reasons:
Another reason your
trad pubbed books may sell well
in print versions is because there are lots and lots of readers
in that market — by the accounts I have read 60 - 70 % of total — and many of them prefer print, or to find reads
in physical locations.
I have people writing to me on Facebook and
in email and talking to me
in person about how much they love my books, and here I am envying the awards and the accolades, certain that a
trad pub deal was the only way I could get them.
Joe speaks boldly about his dislike of the
trad pub scene and why the ball is no longer all
in the publisher's court.
Indies and
trad pubs alike will shell out hundreds to thousands of dollars to pull
in 2,000 - 3,000 sales or 20,000 - 30,000 free downloads
in a single day.
Then there is the disparity
in how
trad -
pubbed authors and indie authors are treated as professionals.
However, we know they're elitists from things they've said
in the past about self - published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
With that goes risk — a DIY setup doing a
trad -
pub style 10k hardback print run is a huge risk
in terms of warehousing, returns etc..
Unless you were able to leverage Hugh Howey - levels of ebook sales (
in which case I'm guessing Amazon would try to snap you up), I doubt a
trad pub would want print rights only.
But one reason I won't be publishing a lot more middle grade is because I also like to sell books... and it's just very hard to do that
in indie MG (or
trad -
pub MG, to be honest — the market is simply smaller).
Second, what I was saying that if Good Writer writes Good Book and sends it to either market —
trad or self
pub —
in a proper, professional manner, they seem to have roughly equal success rates.
When a
trad -
pub book weighs
in at $ 9.99 and you can buy somewhere between two to four times as much reading material from Indie authors, the choice seems obvious.
Literary fiction never did well
in indie publishing because it depends on reviews from the big, well known journals like the New Yorker, the NYT book review, the TLS, the Guardian, the NY Review of Books, etc, and they only review
trad pub.
Jim and Bryan's ho - ho - holiday episode of SMBS touched upon the popular podcast Serial, the big boost adults buying YA gave the industry, Macmillan's deal with Amazon, Konrath dropping out of KU, and what
trad pubs learned
in 2014.
Or perhaps someone whose books have been
trad -
pubbed in some countries but not
in others.
It's also worth noting that the author of the AE report, Hugh Howey, admitted
in comments on Chuck Wendig's blog (fourth down) that actually he earned more from
trad pub last year that he did from Amazon.
I'm trading the indie ebook market (which I think the book has peaked
in) for the
trad pub ebook market
I think with the way the industry's changing, it's very likely that even
trad -
pubbed authors will have options for retaining (or regaining) audiobook rights at some point
in their careers.
And one of the biggest negative effects we've now created as indie authors is denigrating the value of ebooks — specifically indie ebooks, as you'll find the
trad pubs don't do much, if any, free promo —
in the eyes of the audience that buys them.
The difference
in income between successful traditionally published authors and successful self - published authors is getting narrower each day, with many self - published authors now making much, much more than their
trad pub counterparts.
I think when the first AE report came out, July 2014, showing the sales shares of indie vs
trad pub genre books, was the moment I realized that the Tra Pubs were
in deep, deep, pre-processed grass and oats.
Yes, your initial
trad -
pub books will probably bring
in less money than your later self -
pubbed books, but that's not necessarily a bad trade - off.