My mind simply boggles at bids going over 2 million, and I hope she's successful
in trad publishing.
But the days of the successful «hybrid» author, with one foot
in trad publishing and the other in self - publishing, could be soon over.
Nobody else
in the trad publishing pipeline expects to work for free 30 percent of the time (well, maybe an agent expects to).
He is forgetting, as so many
in trad publishing do, that there is a flourishing indie and small press world out there with authors who are writing books people want to read.
She has worked with Cambridge University Press, where she managed technical production cycles for books and software from development to publication, and Oberon Books, London, a specialist book publisher where she gained insight into the gatekeeping process
in trad publishing.
I spent ten years and thirteen books
in trad publishing until it beat me down to the point where I couldn't write for three years.
In the best of all possibly worlds
in trad publishing, I'd be on novel # 2, maybe # 3.
Since I can't afford to hire any outside editors I'm rather grateful for that, bad editing
in trad publishing.
It's all those ostriches and lemmings
in trad publishing, at least with the Big 5 and their ilk.
In trad publishing, that process takes a year (or even longer... in my experience).
These are good points, but don't take into consideration a big change
in trad publishing: the author is increasingly responsible for marketing and branding.
The majority of self - pubbed writers are not serious or realistic about it, and they would have been unlikely to have been successful
in trad publishing either.
I would say I have «no interest
in trad publishing» right now.
In trad publishing at least the gamble is clear — you put in the hours, you learn as much as you can about the business, and you hope.
You put out samples, you sell your work yourself, people like it, talk about it — the movers & shakers
in the trad publishing industry aren't just sitting on their thumbs when they aren't reading; they're scanning the «net and seeing what people are saying about writers like you.
You need to have some selling skills
in trad publishing because you have to convince agents / publishers to take a chance on you, which means mastering the secrets of the query letter and the elevator pitch.
Going indie in genres where the publishers aren't interested (and making more money as an indie than
in trad publishing!)
As for spelling mistakes with indies, yeh, some but no more than I've found
in the trad published books.
You're right — although we strive to make our manuscripts as clean as possible, it's common for the occasional error to slip through (even
in trad published books).
Not exact matches
In terms of
trad pub vs indie — most
trad publishers don't want to
publish collections of short fiction by unknowns, but you can submit to magazines and anthologies as well as self -
publishing collections or using them for marketing.
Anne, there is no question that my humour column blog (www.melodiecampbell.com — forgive the mention) was instrumental
in getting me that first
publishing contract at Orca Books, a large Canadian
trad publisher.
We asked her a bunch of questions about what she found
in regard to author income, books on sale, and whether indie or
trad publishing is more likely to get a person to a living wage (which she defined as the U.S. average of $ 32,000 a year).
Especially with the limited qualifiers you added; being successful enough to traditionally
publish on your own terms (which indie
publishing might * get * you to) or just wanting the traditional cred
in itself are the only good reasons to take the
trad route.
Kozlowski is the only person I know oblivious enough to include a graph of daily ebooks showing indie books making up nearly 50 % of the US ebook market, and then
in the very next paragraph babble about them only being a «drop
in the bucket» relative to the
trad -
published side.
My first traditionally
published novel, Transgression, only sold about 6,000 copies
in its
trad - pubbed edition.
But
in the writing community, those
trad publishing credits are absolutely necessary for any kind of credibility * with other writers *.
I have no interest
in or patience with stories whose plot or characters I do not care about, or those that display bad writing or poor editing (FAR too many, even from
trad publishing houses).
This is how I sold my first several books and how many of my
trad - pubbed friends broke
in to
publishing and I have long believed it's the best way to make contacts.
But none
in the traditional
publishing arena, because, however lousy one reader or another may think a
trad - pubbed book, at the very least SOMEBODY liked it besides the author.
There are a few bad apples among the
trad published, but far more
in the self -
published ranks (and stop reading that I mean ALL self - publishers, or I'm going to start recommending that you get glasses).
Each of the speakers will outline over 30 minutes, their take on the what's required for success
in either the self
publishing or
trad publishing worlds.
Trad publishing has standardized length
in the last few decades, but The Great Gatsby is only about 50K words.
However, we know they're elitists from things they've said
in the past about self -
published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
Yes, there are poor work
in the
trad pub world, particularly due to «rush
publishing» and also when certain poorly skilled entrepreneurs create micro-
publishing companies.
We actually talk to authors - you see a few blog posts and articles and believe we are at war but the reality is many of us know
trad published authors - some are happy, some are becoming unhappy, some are
in the middle of lawsuits, some are no longer writing because they couldn't afford to sue and gave up.
But one reason I won't be
publishing a lot more middle grade is because I also like to sell books... and it's just very hard to do that
in indie MG (or
trad - pub MG, to be honest — the market is simply smaller).
They can write
in older genres that
trad publishing has tired of, like Gothic Romance or Family Saga, and make them new again.
Whether
trad publishers are currently likely to be interested
in series that were previously self
published
Literary fiction never did well
in indie
publishing because it depends on reviews from the big, well known journals like the New Yorker, the NYT book review, the TLS, the Guardian, the NY Review of Books, etc, and they only review
trad pub.
I'm an indy - author since trying the
trad -
publishing route
in 2005 - 06 with my first two books (historical novels, which several agents looked at, and said regretfully that they were very good... but just not marketable.)
I find it interesting that people make this into an either / or thing, I'm doing both, indie
publishing shorter works that there's no point offering a
trad publisher, while my novel is
in the hands of my agent.
It doesn't exist
in Indie
publishing,, and it doesn't exist
in Trad Pub.
I'm
in the midst of pulling my
trad -
published writing partner over to the Dark Side.
Indie
publishing forces you to rely on your own instincts
in that it allows you to write stuff that a
trad publisher wouldn't look at — not because it's bad, but because it's different.
Because I view all of that as found money, and because it highlights that even if you're not madly pursuing a
trad deal, good agents still have a valuable role they can play
in the mix, even with indie
published books.
The difference
in income between successful traditionally
published authors and successful self -
published authors is getting narrower each day, with many self -
published authors now making much, much more than their
trad pub counterparts.
That said, does anyone have an estimate for indie vs
trad publishing shares
in brick and mortar bookstores?
Yes, there is a great deal of dreck
in self -
published books, but have you taken a really good look at
trad pubbed books lately?
It dramatically helps
trad authors to buy their books
in the first week, and I want my favorite authors to keep
publishing.
Since we're making outlandish, provocative (and unsubstantiated) claims, I'll concur with the response that
trad published authors are lazy because they don't want to put
in the time and effort to produce or market their books.