: The Guardian Newsapaper 2nd Feb, page 7: by Fred Pearce: extreme right hand side of page under the title «Allegations: Lies, soundbites and hot air — how the media fell
into the sceptics» trap».
Found that Fred Pearce article from The Guardian Newsapaper 2nd Feb,: «Allegations: Lies, soundbites and hot air — how the media fell
into the sceptics» trap» under a different title: «How the «climategate» scandal is bogus and based on climate sceptics» lies»
â $ œDeniersâ $ has been altered to â $ œsceptics.â $ Probably quite sensibly since many in the AMS, being meteorologists rather than â $ œclimate scientistsâ $ tend very much to fall
into the sceptic camp).
I think this is why I have fallen
into the sceptic band because I haven't seen the necessary firm evidence that man is causing the climate to change beyond natural boundaries.
Every time you write another few waverers have their doubts about the Climatocracy confirmed and fall
into the sceptic camp.
Not exact matches
So, just like George Osborne sent his junior minister David Gauke
into the Commons to answer tricky questions on Google and tax last week, the hapless David Lidington, Minister for Europe, was despatched to fave the wrath of Euro -
sceptic MPs.
That's a dodgy argument and doesn't really respond to the central concern of
sceptics, which is that the arms will find their way
into the hands of extremist - not that all rebels are extremists.
If you drill down
into a lot of the smarter
sceptics, their actual problem is what we're doing with the science, as opposed to what the science is really telling us.
It's hard to know just how far this view has seeped
into mainstream climate scepticism, but the themes of corrupt science and cheating and lying climate scientists are widely disseminated on
sceptic blogs and other outlets.
Hi, I don't mean to turn this
into yet another
sceptic thread, but I've read in another site that there apparently are doubts about current models assuming that climate sensitivity is constant.
I have to admit I've been kind of
sceptic to the final result ever since the collaboration was announced, simply cause I didn't see how the usual great Margiela quality would translate
into highstreet prices.
He is a
sceptic of the supernatural and is drawn
into the intrigues surrounding the increasingly infamous supernatural writer and researcher, Julian Karswell (Niall MacGinnis).
Excitable and fuelled by coffee alone, his floppy hair has charmed many a
sceptic into subscribing.
Sticking to its roots might not convert fighting sim
sceptics, but for those who love the Tekken series inside out, it breathes new life
into the series as it looks for a place in an increasingly crowded scene of fighting games.
I'm finding myself aligned with the
sceptics now — this started as a «competition» to make the bottle impactful and I think it's getting sidetracked
into making the bottle appeal to people who've read the blog and or are in the community.
«The two - year legal pursuit of the climate scientist, Michael Mann, by Virginia's climate -
sceptic attorney general ran
into a dead end at the state supreme court on Friday.
But the refined and philosophical
sceptics fall
into an inconsistence of an opposite nature.
My father is somewhat of a climate «
sceptic» and insists that the prediction of 0.3 C cooling is based only on solar irradiance and does not take
into account increased cloud cover caused by low sun activity (he beleives that we are going to be facing extreme global cooling over the next few decades).
Maybe all those
sceptics out there should be sent to the arctic next summer and thrown
into the open waters that was once Santa's house.
Or do I just pop
into my local Total service station and say to the pump jockey «I'm a
sceptic, give me all the cash from the till?»
He had begun his film with a preconceived idea about the climate debate, as one divided
into two camps —
sceptics and deniers — disagreeing about a single proposition: «climate change is happening».
If you look at the whole argument... If you look at the historical difference between [
sceptics vs scientists] The
sceptics have said initially there's no warming, then they've said it's not down to man, and now they do seem, you do seem to be coming more
into line with the international body of thinking over what is going to happen in the future.
Two minutes
into a lecture about how climate
sceptics misrepresent the the science for political ends, and Oreskes has herself done precisely that.
I consider her to be by no means a
sceptic - although many warmists perceive her as such - and bringing her firmly back
into the all embracing arms of the IPCC would, I suspect, cause the
sceptics considerable dismay, although not dealing a fatal blow by any means.
If it were true, it would mean that 1 in 100,000 climate scientists were sceptical, and we can think of enough
sceptics to put the number of climate scientists in the world well
into the tens of millions.
It's a neat bit of circular logic:
sceptics can't get published in peer - reviewed journals, so journals that
sceptics get published in therefore can not be properly peer - reviewed, and since only peer - reviewed material is allowed
into the IPCC reports, scepticism can and must be entirely excluded from them, by definition.
I will say this for Betts, his forays
into the world of the
sceptics is not so blatantly obnoctious as gavin eta
But as we have already seen, psychologists can quite easily put climate scientists
into the category of climate
sceptics.
The fact that Lewandowsky could put Betts
into a category of «climate
sceptic», and his comment
into a category of «conspiracy theory» should be an object lesson about letting prejudice influence research for those seeking to understand and explain the climate debate.
As it was, I drifted
into property management and then, following the death of my very much loved German Shepherd on 19th November 2009, started volunteering part time for a German Shepherd Rescue — none of which relates in any way whatsoever to being a climate change
sceptic!
For instance, if we divide the respondents
into «
sceptics» and «warmists» on the basis of their assent to / dissent from the statement, «I believe that burning fossil fuels increases atmospheric temperature to some measurable degree», and then compare those groups» assent to / dissent from popular conspiracy theories, we get the following result:
The US Congress's most ardent global warming
sceptic is being accused of turning the row over climate science
into a McCarthyite witch - hunt by calling for a criminal investigation of scientists.
Some of the more vocal of the establishment climate researchers have fallen
into a mode of open denigration of climate
sceptics («deniers» is the offensive popular terminology of the day).
While some
sceptics might now be more accepting of the record, the majority have now put the BEST team
into the category of groups that we have serious doubts about.
What we see operating in Hickman's thinking is the tendency to turn the climate debate
into sides, or binary, opposing categories: true and false, good and bad, ideology and science... because ultimately, it's easier to lump «policy
sceptics» in with «climate
sceptics», and link climate
sceptics to «ideology» than it is to deal with the arguments in currency.
Abraham needs to lump this growing camp in with the
sceptics because, like Hickman and Painter, he needs the world to resolve
into binary, opposing categories.
I've been trying very hard not to fall
into either the «
sceptic» or «AGW believer» camp over this - my comments have been intended ONLY as informed comment on the code itself and the problems that code like that can create.
But expecting you to look
into the matter and actually find out what the problems are... well on a real
sceptic would do that.
And straying briefly
into more dangerous territory, lukewarmers can and do remain highly critical of the IPCC, the hockey stick, the climategate fiasco, the Lewandowsky nonsense, and the bizarre idea that
sceptics are a bunch of «fossil fuel funded deniers».
I'd like to think Oxfam has fallen
into the hands of an ad agency run by secret climate
sceptics with a great sense of humour, but the rest of the site suggests otherwise.
What fascinates me about these exchanges is how much energy (and how little honesty) «
sceptic» commenters will put
into attacking anything that they perceive as a threat.
Q — this seems to be another example of you simply being rude in an attempt to shame
sceptics into submission.
On BBC Radio 4's Any Questions last night, and in his Bad Science column in the Guardian today, Dr Ben Goldacre lays
into what he calls the «zombie arguments» of climate
sceptics:
when dealing with a
sceptic, don't get
into a head to head with them.
We also argue that dividing the debate
into «
sceptics / deniers» and «scientists» is really very unhelpful, and it lumps people together who really don't share much.
That has not deterred the climate Gnostics, sustained by their mystical insight
into inner truths hidden from
sceptics («deniers» in their language of anathema) and, increasingly, from scientists who have not taken the IPCC shilling.
You are playing
into the hands of the
sceptics with a site like this, it is too reactionary, too much «doth protest too much».
If climate
sceptics broke
into CSIRO labs and destroyed computers or started destroying temp stations we'd be outraged.
So are CSIRO scientist the dupes of evil corporations (you say) or the agents of sinister world wide plot to tax us back
into the stone age and turn out the lights (climate
sceptics).
Setting aside the issue of who is right in the debate, some of the more vocal of the establishment climate researchers have fallen
into a mode of open denigration of climate
sceptics («deniers» is the offensive popular terminology of the day).