The panel concludes there is very high confidence that the warming is due to human activities, which are likely to have been at least five times greater than the impact of solar
irradiance changes on global warming.
Not exact matches
-LSB-...] This is what the IPCC (the world's most authoritative body
on climate
change) had to say
on solar forcing in its most recent report «Continuous monitoring of total solar
irradiance now covers the last 28 years.
Note that the last remark can go either way, as the solar signal can even be more enhanced at the cost of the sensitivity for the greenhouse signal... And from Hansen ea.: «Solar
irradiance change has a strong spectral dependence [Lean, 2000], and resulting climate
changes may include indirect effects of induced ozone
change [RFCR; Haigh, 1999; Shindell et al., 1999a] and conceivably even cosmic ray effects
on clouds [Dickinson, 1975].
[T] he idea that the sun is currently driving climate
change is strongly rejected by the world's leading authority on climate science, the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which found in its latest (2013) report that «There is high confidence that changes in total solar irradiance have not contributed to the increase in global mean surface temperature over the period 1986 to 2008, based on direct satellite measurements of total solar irradiance.&
change is strongly rejected by the world's leading authority
on climate science, the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate
Change, which found in its latest (2013) report that «There is high confidence that changes in total solar irradiance have not contributed to the increase in global mean surface temperature over the period 1986 to 2008, based on direct satellite measurements of total solar irradiance.&
Change, which found in its latest (2013) report that «There is high confidence that
changes in total solar
irradiance have not contributed to the increase in global mean surface temperature over the period 1986 to 2008, based
on direct satellite measurements of total solar
irradiance.»
Let's set the stage by noting that, as a significant competitor to anthropogenic greenhouse forcing of recent climate
change, the direct radiative forcing by solar
irradiance variations is dead
on arrival.
Jo's scientific interests include radiative transfer in the atmosphere, climate modelling, radiative forcing of climate
change and the influence of solar
irradiance variability
on climate.
Amplification of the direct solar forcing is conceivable, e.g., through effects
on ozone or atmospheric condensation nuclei, but empirical data place a factor of two upper limit
on the amplification, with the most likely forcing in the range 100 — 120 % of the directly measured solar
irradiance change [64].
For the period after 1974,... there is no evidence for any non-magnetic
change in the solar
irradiance on time scales longer than about a day.»
On longer time scales, solar - related effects may play a bigger role, though I have yet to be persuaded that the observations imply a stronger effect than you can get just with
irradiance / ozone
changes.
Critics of this result might argue that the solar forcing in these experiments is only based
on the estimated
change in total
irradiance, which might be an underestimate, or that does not include potential indirect amplifying effects (via an ozone response to UV
changes, or galactic cosmic rays affecting clouds).
-LSB-...] This is what the IPCC (the world's most authoritative body
on climate
change) had to say
on solar forcing in its most recent report «Continuous monitoring of total solar
irradiance now covers the last 28 years.
Excuse the dumb question but why are we wasting our research time
on CO2 emissions rather than the cause of
changes in solar
irradiance?
I'm not the most qualified to make a judgment
on their scientific work, but the two authors seem eager to attribute those measurments to an increase of solar
irradiance since 1980, though no serious discussion about the other possible mechanisms (like atmospheric
changes) is made in the paper.
On the other hand, chromospheric indices and hence solar UV
irradiance do not exhibit a similar
change.
The
change in total solar
irradiance over recent 11 - year sunspot cycles amounts to < 0.1 %, but greater
changes at ultraviolet wavelengths may have substantial impacts
on stratospheric ozone concentrations, thereby altering both stratospheric and tropospheric circulation patterns... This model prediction is supported by paleoclimatic proxy reconstructions over the past millennium.
Further, our temperature reconstructions, within age uncertainty, can be well correlated with solar
irradiance changes, suggesting a possible link between solar forcing and natural climate variability, at least
on the northern Tibetan Plateau.»
The use of even more recently computer - reconstructed total solar
irradiance data (whatever have large uncertainties) for the period prior to 1976 would not
change any of the conclusions in my paper, where quantitative analyses were emphasized
on the influences of humans and the Sun
on global surface temperature after 1970 when direct measurements became available.
These
changes can be measured [the Total Solar
Irradiance = TSI], but the
changes are much too small to have any influence
on our climate.
I have quoted Palle above
on the small contribution of solar
irradiance changes to climate
change.
In their evangelism to prove CO2 as the main climate driver, I have no doubt that the IPCC will continue to minimise the importance of Total Solar
Irradiance (TSI)
on climate
change.
Global solar
irradiance reconstruction [48 — 50] and ice - core based sulfate (SO4) influx in the Northern Hemisphere [51] from volcanic activity (a); mean annual temperature (MAT) reconstructions for the Northern Hemisphere [52], North America [29], and the American Southwest * expressed as anomalies based
on 1961 — 1990 temperature averages (b);
changes in ENSO - related variability based
on El Junco diatom record [41], oxygen isotopes records from Palmyra [42], and the unified ENSO proxy [UEP; 23](c);
changes in PDSI variability for the American Southwest (d), and
changes in winter precipitation variability as simulated by CESM model ensembles 2 to 5 [43].
Of course, the same could be said for global temperature, where a half degree C temperature increase
on an absolute Kelvin scale would only be about 0.17 %, so an argument can be made that
on a percentage basis, this
change in
irradiance is about the same order of magnitude as our
change in temperature.
Second, their temperature reconstructions were not based exclusively
on TSI
changes as the sole source of temperature variation, but included associated
changes in spectral
irradiance that would be expected to amplify TSI effects,
changes in UV being one example.
Considering how deep the solar minimum was in 2008 - 2009, and how low total solar
irradiance went compared to where it was in 1998, given that the average global temperature
changes from peak to trough in a normal solar cycle from the
changes in TSI can be of the order as high as.2 degrees centigrade, and also given that we were nearer the peak of the solar cycle in 1998 than we were in the 2009 - 2010 El Nino, I should think that it is more than reasonable to suspect that the difference in impact of the TSI
on global between 1998's and 2009 - 2010 is easily
on the order of.1 C, or roughly ten times your.01 C figure.
This assessment is based
on multiple lines of evidence and assumes there will be no major volcanic eruptions or secular
changes in total solar
irradiance.
Although we focus
on a hypothesized CR - cloud connection, we note that it is difficult to separate
changes in the CR flux from accompanying variations in solar
irradiance and the solar wind, for which numerous causal links to climate have also been proposed, including: the influence of UV spectral
irradiance on stratospheric heating and dynamic stratosphere - troposphere links (Haigh 1996); UV
irradiance and radiative damage to phytoplankton influencing the release of volatile precursor compounds which form sulphate aerosols over ocean environments (Kniveton et al. 2003); an amplification of total solar
irradiance (TSI) variations by the addition of energy in cloud - free regions enhancing tropospheric circulation features (Meehl et al. 2008; Roy & Haigh 2010); numerous solar - related influences (including solar wind inputs) to the properties of the global electric circuit (GEC) and associated microphysical cloud
changes (Tinsley 2008).
http://www.agci.org/docs/lean.pdf «Global (and regional) surface temperature fluctuations in the past 120 years reflect, as in the space era, a combination of solar, volcanic, ENSO, and anthropogenic influences, with relative contributions shown in Figure 6.22 The adopted solar brightness
changes in this scenario are based
on a solar surface flux transport model; although long - term
changes are «50 % larger than the 11 - year
irradiance cycle, they are significantly smaller than the original estimates based
on variations in Sun - like stars and geomagnetic activity.
So, to my previous post, it looks like AR5 will give a bit more coverage to other sources of solar forcing beside only direct solar
irradiance — it least in its chapter covering «radiative forcing» if not in the chapter
on «understanding and attributing climate
change» (which is being written by a different group).
With regard to proxy studies, same basic questions, are these direct or passive correlations, what evidence that tree ring core thickness depends only
on temperature (what about precipitation, cloud cover, volcanic activity, sea surface temperatue
changes, sea current
changes, solar
irradiance changes, cloud cover, etc.) How are these variables accounted for when analysis of ice cores is completed, or for that matter when computer models, and / or proxy studies are completed.
The effect of these
changes on our temperature record has been noted by some researchers, and, like the
change in solar
irradiance, it too appears to be small.
The impact of the solar cycle
on precipitation in the model experiments arises from two different mechanisms, the first involving UV
changes, the second total solar
irradiance.