They decided early on to fleece indie authors by charging exorbitant prices — when
we all know trad pub pays pennies for each ISBN they use — and indie authors decided that they weren't going to play along with this little game.
Editors being let go by trad pubbing houses are making better livings working free lance for self - pubbers — and God
knows the trad pubs» offerings need them back.
Not exact matches
Trad pub used to
know better.
I was «this close» to being offered a
trad -
pub contract way back in 2011, and I'm sorry to say that I would have been ignorant enough and desperate enough to take it,
no matter how predatory the terms were.
I rarely comment on posts like this — I
know very little about the
trad -
pubbed world:).
Joe speaks boldly about his dislike of the
trad pub scene and why the ball is
no longer all in the publisher's court.
However, we
know they're elitists from things they've said in the past about self - published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
You
know, when the term Stockholm Syndrome started to get applied to
trad pubbed authors I thought it was a bit much.
It has more
trad -
pub nomenclature and you need to
know your stuff before venturing into LS, so not at all something for first time publishing.
Literary fiction never did well in indie publishing because it depends on reviews from the big, well
known journals like the New Yorker, the NYT book review, the TLS, the Guardian, the NY Review of Books, etc, and they only review
trad pub.
I
know I've had no luck getting audio rights for my
trad pubbed books.
I
know of very few
trad pub authors who made six figures on their first novels.
Two other points worth repeating:
trad pubs will have to increase their royalties and
no longer will
pubs be able to say that a certain genre of book won't sell.
I don't
know if
trad publishing is the brass ring or not, but I
know that I was always too frightened to self -
pub before because I was given to understand it would ruin my chances at a «real» publishing contract.
I'm not self -
pubbed myself but I
know there are pros and cons to both
trad and self
pubbing and that they both have their places in today's market.
I'll answer by repeating Shawn's point, that a surprising proportion of readers wouldn't
know a
trad -
pub from a self -
pub author.
That's true, T.A. I don't
know what the
Trad Pub terms are.
Another question: do you think the discounting by Amazon could be on purpose, because they noticed big publishing was practicing deep discount conditions with Amazon's discounts, and Amazon
knew the more discounting it would do, the more
trad pub and hybrid authors would be screwed, and tempted to become only self - published authors?
But that being said, please, if any new writers * do * go through
trad -
pub (and this isn't for you, Diane, because I
know you're a pro at all this and have been for longer than me), read the contract carefully and
know * exactly * what you're signing on for.
:) I've dropped out of my
trad -
pub email loops (which, in retrospect, is a pity because that's an interesting perspective I've lost) so I don't
know how widespread this practice is at Penguin / RH, but I'm guessing it's getting pretty darn prevalent.
I
know many, many
trad pubbed writers going this route.
I do
know that you've been on the
trad -
pub path, and I think your women's fiction / romance books are the kind that will do well there.
I review all of my
trad pub royalty statements when they come in, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for beyond checking that the various royalty rates are as they should be and running the math (cost of book x royalty rate x
no.
In the case of Vanquish Writer's Block (and my other self -
pub books), I
knew that in many cases they were too short for a
trad house to pick up AND I
knew I could get them out to my readers faster and more effectively.
I also believe that they offer different terms to
trad pub on Select, like not having to be exclusive, so if you believe that the playing field isn't already slanted, look
no further than that.
I'm not opposed to a
trad pub deal if it buys you the things you can't get doing it as I am — broad distribution, meaningful marketing, access to film deals — but I can't for the world see why anyone would do a mid-list deal
knowing everything we
know.
So I
know things will take a dive when I make the move out of Select... but it's okay, I'll be ready because I'm building deep with developing a loyal, engaged reader base and capturing them on my email list,, building broad by reaching into new markets (audiobooks,
trad pub deals, film and tv) and high by developing new projects in new genres.
No matter if you're
trad -
pub or indie - bound, you have to factor in these changes to your career ahead.
I
know brilliant writers, like RS Guthrie (whose new one, Blood Land, is a standout example of why some indie authors are completely capable of sitting at the big table with the
trad pub boys), whose work isn't getting nearly the visibility it deserves.
To whit, if you wanted to bludgeon the
trad pub houses into submission, who wanted to dictate terms to you, you could say, «
No, we won't do that — we'll sell something else to all the kindle buyers.»
p.s. I don't think the divide is self -
pub /
trad -
pub (which few people
know) or even edited / not - edited (which fewer people
know) but
know / unknown.
One recent call for reviewers (of a
trad pub novel that shall remain nameless) required me to apply for a limited number of paper arcs, and a slightly less limited number of eARCs, with a small essay explaining why my blog was worthy of «winning» an arc for review (when I
know very well the eARCs involve no cost whatsoever).
I'm a little late to this party but... this is one of the things the self -
pub committee is working on for SFWA: we want to make the organization a brand where people can go to find
trad, hybrid, and indie writers with proven track records, writing in the genres they already
know they love.
Even long - time
trad -
pubbed authors who think they
know the ropes can make fatal errors because self - publishing has a different set of rules.
Sapphi — I
know you continue to be a top seller as an indie AND
trad -
pubbed author.