We have seen every Catholic adoption society in effect closed down because, apparently,
the leaders of the Church thought they had a deal with politicians over «gay» adoption.
Not exact matches
The reason I left my last
church started with a conversation this with a female
leader (and it is important I
think that I mention she was female in the light
of this conversation).
The
leaders hide
church history from its members, when we find it, we take it to them, and
of course are called aposates, there are so many mental systems in place at every level to control the people and there
thoughts and actions, at a very young age.
In a nutshell, Mormons don't
think independently and the
church leaders have a tremendous amount
of control over their members.
@alientech — I suppose you
think that the
churches,
leaders of business and such will just automatically all head towards altruism on their own then?
I
think I understand some
of our Lord's heart, when He must remove the strong
leader to ensure His
church blossoms.
And it will be for me quite a poignant moment going there [to Whitehall] with the other
church leaders and the Queen and all the others to
think of him.
Back in the 80s I
think it was, when there was a war going on between the fundamentalist wing
of the
church and those who were merely conservative (and the few who were moderate), one
of the fundamentalist
leaders gave a speech or sermon in which he said, «If the Southern Baptist Convention votes that pickles are divine, then the professors at our seminaries had better start teaching that indeed pickles are divine.»
The
leader of the
church could care less what the lay
think.
If we don't speak — if our
church leaders don't speak — we'll be absorbed into our culture's way
of thinking, and our children will be catechized by progressive creeds
of sexual liberation.
Thinking about cancelling the
church service is terrifying to most
church leaders because we depend on the people to fill the pews and pay the bills, one
of which is our own salary.
Given these results, why is separationism still the dominant position
of many civil libertarians, including most Jewish and mainline Protestant
leaders in the field
of church - state
thought?
I have not read the book — my
church is already living through enough spiritual abuse on the part
of its
leaders that I really don't
think I can stomach any more!
The real sad thing is that over 4,000 former members and
leaders of this
church are now directly affected and suffering because one bully used his pulpit to twist theology to his way
of thinking.
Perhaps
church leaders thought the legislation adequately shielded all the LDS
church's functions and ministries from the purview
of the new law.
I do not
think that the
leaders of the
Churches are really wholly devoted to the cause
of ecumenism.
The problem for Bell is that many
of those same people
think he's been moving in the «wrong direction», and
church leaders are now wary
of endorsing anything by him.
Church leaders are deluded if they think people are desperately seeking a «community» and will attend church in hopes of findi
Church leaders are deluded if they
think people are desperately seeking a «community» and will attend
church in hopes of findi
church in hopes
of finding it.
I don't
think the
church NEEDS
leaders, and maybe shouldn't have them, in our present understanding
of the word.
Among the disciples
of Jesus and in the early
church there were spiritual
leaders who
thought of themselves in such a manner.
We need to
think about new models
of organization which are not so bishop or rector centered and which support and enhance the clergy role as spiritual
leaders within the
Church and which call all the members to a new sense
of discipleship.
We need our (supposedly) Bible - based
church leaders to recover the discipline
of taking us systematically through the Psalms, whether we like them or not, whether we
think they're nice or not, and whether we understand them or not.
Its an interesting and concerning that people can and do live in information silos (including me) and are kept their by
leaders of institutional
church who want them to
think in certain ways like you must come to sunday
church and made to feel guilty if they do nt.
This passage describes the
leaders on the construction site, which we can
think of as the Foremen (Eph 4:11), the people who do the work, or the Crew (Eph 4:12), the construction Model that we are imitating and turning into a reality (Eph 4:13), and the Program goal that the
church will fulfill once it is constructed (Eph 4:14 - 16).
What seems most evident in the case
of the modern pastoral director is that he can
think of himself neither as parish parson responsible for all the people in a geographic area nor as the abbot
of a convent
of the saved, but only as the responsible
leader of a parish
church; it is the Church, not he in the first place, that has a parish and responsibility f
church; it is the
Church, not he in the first place, that has a parish and responsibility f
Church, not he in the first place, that has a parish and responsibility for it.
For the Youngstown area to have as many
churches as we do I can only
think of a handful
of church leaders who have tried to do more outreach to the communities the
churches are actually in and almost none that live in more well off neighborhoods here.
so we can all stop judging eachother and start encouraging others starting with our own family, the word does say that you and your household will be saved, but thats to much like work its easier to play christian around your
church you belong to and play follow the
leader and go around telling people that God loves them tell them all about how they are sinners you know the bit, an thats it go home and freak out on your famliy members because their not save like you maybe they are and you cant even tell because they do nt measure up to your
churches standards even though God says we have all fallen short and that our rightousness is filthy rags, we need to stop useing the word
of God as though we
think we know what were doing, do you really
think that when God said I will give you all authority He ment you?
A survey that William McKinney and I recently conducted invited 1,500 conservative and mainline Protestant denominational
leaders to choose from a list
of 63 contemporary religious
leaders and authors the ten who have had «the greatest impact on your
thinking about the
church's life and mission today.»
The
leaders of two
of Britain's major
church denominations have urged the government to
think twice before agreeing to take part in military action against Islamic State (IS).
In the midst
of this we had an outlandish
thought: What if we could get Evangelical
leaders in a room to consider how the
church should respond to the refugee crisis?
Knowing I have something
of a national platform, I've been
thinking a lot about how to use it more effectively — perhaps by focusing my best op - ed writing on one or two and using the rest
of my influence to amplify those
church leaders, activists, and artists doing the good work
of justice all around the world.
But I
think the drawback will always be that their people are not experiencing the faith
of the early
church itself, intact, but rather the selections from the early
church that fit the taste
of this particular contemporary
leader.
If we really want to plug in people to Numbers 16 - 17 (which I am not sure is the right way to «apply» this text), I
think it is safest to say that all
of us,
church leaders and pastors included, are the rebellious family
of Korah, and Jesus is Moses.
Anyway, I am not sure what the afterlife holds for those who are eternally separated from God, but I do not
think it is full
of torture as many
church leaders depict.
Considering there is the small matter «separation
of church and state» I
think those religious
leaders are looking for a pay raise from their sheep, and not staying tax free is what they seem to thumb their noses at.
How do you
think we walk the line so predominantly white
churches don't just go into a community and say, «We're coming to help,» but really integrate and come under
leaders of color?
This conflict has emerged between the liberal and militant activist pastors and denominational
leaders, on the one hand, and a large body
of more conservative laymen, on the other hand, who
think the
church should stick to spiritual matters and stop meddling in politics and «social» issues.
Tim i found it liberating to just do what the Lord wants you to do i work within his boundarys and yes i attend
church and enjoy it.I love the people and i love hearing the word and worshipping the Lord even if others are still bound up with traditions thats not my walk thats theres.My focus is to do what the Lord wants me to do.There have been times i have said no to the pastor he does nt understand why i choose not to lead the worship.i query him as well regarding the idea that its not just performing a function because there is a need our hearts have to be in the right place so that the Lord can use us but he did nt understand where i was coming from and thats okay because
of that i just said no until my heart is right i am better not being involved in leading.But i am happy to be an encouragement to others in the worship team i havent wanted to be the
leader i have done that in the past.So my focus has been just the singing and being part
of different worship teams i
think the Lord has other plans as the groups i am in seem to be changing at the same time i am aware that i do nt to worry about change as the Lord knows whats best.I used to be quite comfortable leading the music but that was before when i was operating in my own self confidence and pride.The Lord did such a huge change in my life that i lost my self confidence and that is not a bad thing at all as my spiritual growth has been incredible.The big change was my identity moved from me and what i could do to knowing who i was in Christ and that he is my strength and confidence.Now i know that without him i can do nothing in fact i am dependent on his empowerment through his holy spirit all the time in everything.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music at another
church i attend multiple
churchs although i attend two regularly one has services in the morning and one has services in the evening so the two do nt really clash.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music its been two years since i did that and i was worried on how i would go.All i can say is that it went really well and because i stepped out in Faith the Lord really blessed the morning to the congregation.The difference is knowing that i serve the Lord with the gifts he has given me but my heart has to be right and when i do it in his way it builds up the body and it brings glory to him.May the Lord continue to show you what he wants you to do even though others may not understand your reasons i just want you to know that you do nt have to pull away completely just work within the boundarys that the Lord gives you and do nt feel pressured by others expectations to do anything that feel uncomfortable.Be involved just as you feel lead by the holy spirit even if it is in a very minor way take small steps.regards brentnz
This division
of labor in the home is reflected in a similar way
of thinking about
church programs and in attitudes about
church leaders.
If the leadership
of the Tea Party / Republican Party
think that they are going to score points by having their drug addict, hate mongering goon score points by attacking the spiritual
leader of the Catholic
Church, they have seriously miscalculated.
When many parents, pastors, and
church leaders think of young people, «leadership» is probably not the first word.
I
think many
of these
church leaders have good hearts and intentions, but since their salary is on the line, they do what it takes to keep their jobs.
I mean, communicated from a divine source by Jesus Christ as God, through inspired prophets and wise men, apostles, teachers, the writers
of the books
of the Bible, councils
of church leaders, popes, and so on, in such a way that the message has been transmitted in human language, clothed in the external forms
of human
thought, given, indeed, in the characteristic language and
thought - forms
of particular nations and cultures, but at the same time in such a way that its essential content has been unaffected by the human mind's fallibility, ignorance and feebleness
of apprehension.
I guess that explains the countless people who were killed during the 600 yr Inquistions... this type
of thinking by
church leaders has been around for hundreds
of years.
Budde hopes that academic and religious
leaders will realize the intellectual and spiritual costs
of that desire to imitate, and that they will create institutions in which the
church can do its
thinking and from which a called and educated laity will emerge.
Back in the»60s, we who are now «old timers»
thought of ourselves as a new breed
of missionaries, well trained in the language and culture
of the host country and determined to help its
church leaders dismantle the structures
of dependency and paternalism.
Furthermore, the
churches»
leaders, while not at the forefront
of the intellectual currents
of the day, had integrated into their
thinking the major cultural changes
of the nineteenth century, such as the new historical consciousness, the analysis
of society in terms
of classes, and biological evolution.
To
think that
church leaders have the arrogance to act like they are brokers
of grace, is really sad and misleading and even shameful, in my view.
I am not sure I would consider the early
church leaders «Catholic» the way we
think of «Catholic» today since back then, there was nothing else.
But when we see that in 397 AD, some
church leaders put together 27 books which they
thought had the touch
of the divine upon them, we must ask if this is really a miracle
of inspiration, or is it something else entirely?