Arsenal has A Villa (A) City (H) Sotn (A) Bournmouth (H) Newcastle (H) Win that City game or even draw by the 3rd of Jan Arsenal should be in the lead with players coming back and with the chance to pick up a couple of
loan players if need be.
Not exact matches
One example of this process, confusingly, might even be the United States in the 1920s, as Marriner Eccles (the brilliant Federal Reserve chairman under then - president Franklin D. Roosevelt) explained endlessly to an uncomprehending elite:
if all the chips at the poker table are held by the same few
players, the only way the rest can keep playing with them is to borrow chips, even though in the end they will not be able to repay the
loans.
I won't be surprised
if Wenger comes up with another
loan deal for another useless
player.
But after the French
player's less than impressive performances when he did get his chance with Arsenal, combined with his failure to really catch fire during any of his three spells away from the club on
loan, most
if not all of us I had think had written him off.
If that means having plenty of
players, especially youngsters out on
loan, then it actually makes sense because those
players are not rotting away on a bench, they are still getting exposure and experience and are still being monitored by the parent club.
On the cb situation why not consider a paid
loan move for a quality
player with an option to buy
if offered?
If I remember well last season Iwobi came out to say that Wenger denied him opportunity to go on
loan because he wanted to develop him alongside senior
players.
also i think we should maybe set up some sort of
player loaning set up with aston villa, now that remi garde they will get the playing time and have a good experience under garde (
if he does well could be a wenger replacement) as he is a wenger disciple, i think this would be a good idea, we should look into maybe sending crowley there or iwobi maybe chambers could do with a seasons
loan with them.
What we should do is look at Barcelona, Southampton, Sporting Lisbon Academies and try to mimic there methods; and
if it simply comes down to 1st Team Minutes being the key factor behind
player development then we need to SACK every single person involved with sending our
players on
loan.
elneny — looks like the first signing to be announced asap could be good cover and surprise first team impact
player like kos (cheap but top class a real wenger gem) chilwell — could well be second signing and let him stay on
loan at hudders just to keep him in playing time c / f or attacking
player that will give a quick boost in the title race, not sure who this could be fingers crossed maybe aubamayang,
if he is available this window could be a master stroke
if we get him in.
With Akpom going to Hull we now have our 25 man squad
if we are going to buy anymore
players someone has to be sold or put out on
loan.
At first glance it gives you the impression that wenger will be signing 3 or 4
player's but now it just seems as
if the manager is penny pinching again... making a nice profit from
loaning them out.
If a
player is under a certain age and still developing
loans can help not just on the pitch but help them grow and help them mature, make
players realise how hard they really hard to get to a level to make it at arsenal.
Maitland Niles out on
loan... A new manager will be able to see through the Ramsey hype and keep him as a bench
player but
if he isn't happy with that he can go too... So basically a DM and two quality defenders is a minimum in the summer but all secondary to the fossilized one leaving
We need to stop being sentimental with
players, send the young promising ones out on
loan and bring them back
if they are on fire.
Mind you, Southampton lost 8 key
players plus a manager in the transfer window, they now sit fourth, 3 pts ahead of us.We can no longer use injuries as an excuse because we have always had them, and
if wenger was a smart manager, he would have addressed this problem by having better squad depth, but instead he chose to send a defender out on
loan despite being short in numbers at the back, foolishly chose not to sign a defender despite an array of good defenders on show at the world cup.So now who is to blame?I guess it's anyone or anything but Wenger.
If we do keep Wilshere and Chambers who was performing well at CB on
loan we have good squad
players already and have brought through promising youngsters.
It remains to be seen how impressive Batshuayi's
loan spell in Germany will end up being, however it already seems as
if Conte has made the wrong decision to let the
player leave.
we are spending OUR hard earned money not OIL money.we are spending money on
players we need unlike them buying
players such as Lukaku, van ginkel, De bryne and
loaning them out when clearly they did nt even need them in the first place so selling them would obviously make money back
if you are looking at net spent.
do nt be surprised
if we see song back on a
loan would be the easiest midfield option to get at short notice just to get him on
loan for a season just to fill the gap i think wenger likes familiarity with some
players knowing the arsenal way would be an ok squad filler in case we have injury pile up at Christmas or new year period as you would expect would be an upgrade on kim kalstrom i think anyways and being at barca cant have done his skill set any harm maybe he learn to more defensive responsibility
If we secure a cb and are forced to
loan a class dm
player with an option to buy in the summer I'd take this.
Academy
players to integrate * Toral (had great season with Birmingham,
if Xhaka comes Toral will go) * Akpom (
if we buy a new striker like Lacazette he will be
loaned out again) * Hayden (yes a CDM, can't be worse than Flamini or Arteta,
if not he will be sold to Hull) * Jeff Reine Adelaide (time to take the big stage) * Gnabry (Campbell replacement and could even leap over Oxlade).
for me a defensive midfielder is of paramount importance
if you think that we have
loaned / sold to sporting campbell i guess with a good gesture we can buy w. carvalho rather than lose him like we hav done with similar
players and after a couple of years reading that AW was close to sign him as well, but instead he opted for coq
There are questions to be asked Why was jenkinson
loaned out
if Bellerin is not ready Why was Coquen (sorry can't spell) sent out
if he was good enough 12 games ago tom e named Why keep Campbell
if he's not good enough wouldn't money from his sale be better spent on a CB Why when SAGNA / Viera / and other 30 plus
players were only offered 1 year contracts yet we are now scratching a midfield together with flamini / Arteta Why when things are not working e.g Moreal at CB do we persist with it I can put all these decisions down to wenger, and that's not bringing up the lack of signings
All three
players were
loaned out to improve on their playing time, fitness and experience, however for Chambers especially, this is a key time to prove
if he can be a quality centre back in the Premier League, on a more consistent basis.
If we risked allowing Carl Jenkinson to go on loan to West Ham, despite our thin defensive cover, letting a player in the middle of the park to leave should not be fearful, especially if it will do the player some good and the team some good to
If we risked allowing Carl Jenkinson to go on
loan to West Ham, despite our thin defensive cover, letting a
player in the middle of the park to leave should not be fearful, especially
if it will do the player some good and the team some good to
if it will do the
player some good and the team some good too.
Defenaitly Chelsea because Klop will turn him in to a great
player where at Chelsea
if you don't perform your a bench warmer or
loaned out
Only make a
loan move with the option to have that
player stay with Arsenal
if the
player proves himself and WE decide
if he can benefit our club.
He isn't like a jan «
loan»
player for short term cover... and having said that... I would be suprised
if he was thrown in the mix at Stoke.
When you consider we also have josh vickers, who can play u21 and u18 (as an overage
player) plus Ryan huddart and hugo keto who can play champions youth league and u18, we may as well
loan out at least 2 keepers
if not 3, but only till January so that we can call back
if required.
if you go back while Fans were begging the old fool to buy a DM and he did not because he had Flamini and Arteta, it was then when once again we were plagued with injuries that he had no where to go, he brought Le Coq back from
loan, back then he did a decent job but was evident that he was not the answer nor the quality
player you need to win the League, bench
player at best in any team with aspirations.....
I'm afraid
if we get Cech, he will be the main signing of the summer in addition to a couple of youngsters and maybe a
loan player that is aged and maybe nobody has heard of.
If you asked me, if Wenger wants him to get a run of games then he should be loaned out to some team in the EPL for a season and not used to cloud our performances just because he should be given chances when other players suffer and our game suffer
If you asked me,
if Wenger wants him to get a run of games then he should be loaned out to some team in the EPL for a season and not used to cloud our performances just because he should be given chances when other players suffer and our game suffer
if Wenger wants him to get a run of games then he should be
loaned out to some team in the EPL for a season and not used to cloud our performances just because he should be given chances when other
players suffer and our game suffers.
Our
player of the season so far?Certainly the most consistent.JACK AND OZIL CONTRACTS - just get them signed up for F *** S SAKE.Jack doesn't want to go anywhere and Ozil will have his choice of big clubs to choose from
if allowed to be able to go on a free.How about giving out a statement of our ambitions (yeah right) and show were prepared to pay whatever it takes (up to the point of being ridiculous) to SIGN the best and KEEP the best» These two are the best we have so get them sorted early to send out a message of how serious we intend to be.AUBAMEYANG - So what
if he has a contract.So did Sanchez.Offer the right money to Dortmund and the
player and he will be ours.What is there to question over this deal?He is a proven goalscorer.We have just lost one.Get the deal done.GIROUD - Get rid of him to Dortmund
if they want him either by selling or
if it sweetens the deal just
loan him till the end of the season.He was a back up when Sanchez was here and will be on the mix of back ups
if Auba signs.He has a World Cup squad to fight for just to be considered so needs to be playing every week.We do not need him
if Auba signs and would demand better than him
if the deal fails to happen.Just get rid.JONNY EVANS - I'm not sure.Agree Kos needs nursing through games and we do not have consistent performers to come in
if he is injured or rested mainly due to both Chambers and Holdimg not progressing through as much as we first thought and hoped for.Gooners have always been patient and supportive of the youngsters as they have come through but question marks to the whole coaching staff as to why these two seem to have stalled as much as they have done.Steve Bould - What do you do?You should be ashamed.
If we had sold / released Ryo Coquelin Diaby who are useless or injured we could have got 3
players in on
loan.
To day is aday gunners have shown the warrior spirit because never in resent years for spur to finish above Arsenal.I remember last year wilsher saying
if spur finish above Arsenal, he has pay out some money.All
players should have wilsher heart The wenger made mistake to let him go for
loan Common gunners, common weapons,
Cutting the squad down for wage reasons is important but
loans can cover partial wages and
if AFC show the appearance of not needing to sell
if they can
loan then they have a stronger hand in negotiations and asking for more for our
players.
Should Ings end up securing a January move away from the club on
loan, it'll be interesting to see how much game time the
player can get, and
if his time on
loan will help him develop more as a
player.
If Sunderland did go through with a
loan deal for Uruguayan international Coates, however, it would rule out Borini coming on a short term basis as well — because Premier League rules mean that a club can not sign two
players on
loan from the same team.
These
players seem stuck in limbo at Arsenal and so it remains up for debate
if firstly whether Smit is any better than these guys of
if not and whether he will just join them rotting in the reserves or out on
loan?
The CF is an issue and it appears that Wenger has wanted that resolved, every transfer up till last season we have been interested in a CF... it is a shame the board spent # 16mil on a
player who should have only been with us on
loan and lets be honest,
if Welbroke as only on a
loan then do you think we would have made that move perm after his injury record with us???
If the
player is that good, you have to question why Los Che are considering farming him out on
loan to a Premier League club, and the fact that Stoke and Hull have been linked to the forward may suggest that he's not exactly on a par with Fernando Torres.
I do hope that Arsenal FC do put more work into the
loans of our developing
players,
if we can pick them up cheap like Bielik and Holding then train them in the Arsenal way and then put some effort into finding a team where they can experience a higher level to prove they can step up.
The only reason why Wenger would
loan a
player for 20m is
if there is a buyout clause as part of the deal.
If the first XI is off the boil, we should be seeing more of the likes of Iwobi or Campbell, and in future years we have a whole line of
players who are out on
loan working on their game, one can hope many of them will blossom into top quality
players.
Many Chelsea
players have gone out on
loan in the past and never returned, but there seems to be a slight change of stance under Conte, who has found a place for Christensen this season and for Victor Moses last term, even
if other youngsters such as Nathaniel Chalobah and Nathan Ake were sold a little prematurely.
Nevertheless,
if he were to move initially on
loan and prove his fitness and form, it could be a great deal and it's commendable that he wants to move abroad and test himself in Spain, with so few English
players following such a path.
But even
if Arsenal had signed him in the winter, wouldn't they have deployed him to the Arsenal's Premier League II team or to their Under21 team or even
loan him out21 instead of to start using him straightaway in their first team starting XI squad since this is usually the practice at Arsenal whenever they sign a youth
player thereby underutilising Mbappe's potential in their senior team?.
If you look at Wilshere clearly he has these matches since his injury where he starts to get back to his old self.Honestly, I see an injury free Wilshere being world class even if it's not with us.The talent in him is just too much and only these repetitive injuries can hold him back.I don't see him becoming a normal player because even when you look at his Bournemouth loan which was okay the way he performed against the top teams shows he will make it.He's better than Ramsey but more injury prone.If he had Ramsey's fitness he'd be better.However, it's best we sell him with a buy back clause or send him on lian to aid his developmen
If you look at Wilshere clearly he has these matches since his injury where he starts to get back to his old self.Honestly, I see an injury free Wilshere being world class even
if it's not with us.The talent in him is just too much and only these repetitive injuries can hold him back.I don't see him becoming a normal player because even when you look at his Bournemouth loan which was okay the way he performed against the top teams shows he will make it.He's better than Ramsey but more injury prone.If he had Ramsey's fitness he'd be better.However, it's best we sell him with a buy back clause or send him on lian to aid his developmen
if it's not with us.The talent in him is just too much and only these repetitive injuries can hold him back.I don't see him becoming a normal
player because even when you look at his Bournemouth
loan which was okay the way he performed against the top teams shows he will make it.He's better than Ramsey but more injury prone.
If he had Ramsey's fitness he'd be better.However, it's best we sell him with a buy back clause or send him on lian to aid his developmen
If he had Ramsey's fitness he'd be better.However, it's best we sell him with a buy back clause or send him on lian to aid his development.
All of Wenger's disastrous plans when it comes to transfers, both incoming and outgoing, are coming home to roost... why would anyone pay a significant fee for a
player that was hardly used, is overpaid and has a spotty injury record; not to mention the fact that Wenger nickels & dimes everyone when it comes to transfers so it only makes sense that other teams would do likewise when dealing with us... the fact is I wouldn't be surprised
if Wenger does this so that
players won't be moved thereby giving him a ready - made excuse not to spend more money on transfers; there's a reason why the latest headlines regarding Arsenal transfers seem to suggest that we aren't bringing anyone in until some
players are sold or moved elsewhere on
loan... we know this club knows how to utilize press coverage to further their questionable agendas, it's the very reason why the Sanchez situation has become such a nightmare