I would also like to say that your claim that «the estimates of the global
mean absolute temperature are not as accurate as the year to year changes» is at the very least counterintuitive.
However, and this is important, because of the biases and the difficulty in interpolating, the estimates of the global
mean absolute temperature are not as accurate as the year to year changes.
Not exact matches
Lower
temperatures mean increasingly lethargic movements, until molecular motion essentially stops at — 459.67 degrees F. Because there's nothing slower than stopped, this is the lowest possible
temperature —
absolute zero.
However,
temperature anomalies are much better correlated over large distances, and this is why the global
mean temperature calculations use local anomalies not
absolute temperatures.
The combination of these factors
means it's much easier to interpolate anomalies and estimate the global
mean, than it would be if you were averaging
absolute temperatures.
By coincidence, yesterday was also the scheduled update for the GISTEMP July
temperature release, and because July is usually the warmest month of the year on an
absolute basis, a record in July usually
means a record of
absolute temperature too.
The uncertainty in the
absolute temperature is also determined to a large part by a stable deviation between the
mean temperature at the station and the
mean temperature of area it is supposed to be representative for.
Full climate models also include large regional variations in
absolute temperature (e.g. ranging from -50 to 30ºC at any one time), and so small offsets in the global
mean are almost imperceptible.
First of all, the observed changes in global
mean temperatures are more easily calculated in terms of anomalies (since anomalies have much greater spatial correlation than
absolute temperatures).
Would a higher or indeed lower
absolute mean global
temperature now affect this forcing as
temperature increased due to CO2 in the future or is the effect minimal.
[Response: For anything near present
temperatures, WV increases at roughly 7 % per ºC and the feedback is tied to this — hence the size of the feedback doesn't vary a lot the
absolute global
mean temperature.
Since apparently there is not agreement in
absolute temperature, would someone please explain what those two sentences actually
meant?
«The 2 \ sigma uncertainty in the global
mean anomaly on a yearly basis are (with the current network of stations) is around 0.1 ºC in contrast that to the estimated uncertainty in the
absolute temperature of about 0.5 ºC (Jones et al, 1999).»
The 2 uncertainty in the global
mean anomaly on a yearly basis are (with the current network of stations) is around 0.1 ºC in contrast that to the estimated uncertainty in the
absolute temperature of about 0.5 ºC (Jones et al, 1999).
Second, the
absolute value of the global
mean temperature in a free - running coupled climate model is an emergent property of the simulation.
Further analysis showed that the
absolute monthly maximum / minimum
temperature was poorly correlated with that of the previous month, ruling out depeendency in time (this is also true for monthly
mean temperature — hence, «seasonal forecasting» is very difficult in this region).
The results for such a test on monthly
absolute minimum / maximum
temperatures in the Nordic countries and monthly
mean temperatures worldwide are inconsistent with what we would see under a stable climate.
Higher
temperatures mean more IR re-radiation, proportional to the
absolute temperature to the fourth power.
This yields an estimate of the uncertainty (spread) of the
means of each series about the true
temperature — an
absolute uncertainty — not simply the spread of the series
means about their common
mean value (the relative uncertainty).
And so the world is awash with quotes of
absolute global
mean temperatures for single years which use different baselines giving wildly oscillating fluctuations as a function of time which are purely a function of the uncertainty of that baseline, not the actual trends.
But think about what happens when we try and estimate the
absolute global
mean temperature for, say, 2016.
Given that, here are the
absolute global
mean surface
temperatures in five reanalysis products (ERAi, NCEP CFSR, NCEP1, JRA55 and MERRA2) since 1980 (data via WRIT at NOAA ESRL).
Typicaly deniersville rubbish to quote
temperature changes in terms of
absolutes (Kelvin)-- laughable — what matters (in terms of atmospheric
temperature) is that what has been a relative stable global
mean is now changing.
Windchasers, «Which
means that in about 10,000 years, his model of the uncertainty is supposed to include
temperatures below
absolute zero.»
«An entirely equivalent argument [to the error bars] would be to say (accurately) that there is a 2K range of pre-industrial
absolute temperatures in GCMs, and therefore the global
mean temperature is liable to jump 2K at any time — which is clearly nonsense...»
The second is that the «average»
absolute global
mean «surface»
temperature is only accurate to about + / - 2 C degrees, includes «sub-surface
temperatures averaged with above surface
temperatures at varying altitudes.
You might object that time is cached in there somehow, since in practice it's the
mean of 30 years
absolute temperatures, normalized to zero.
I can claim I'm very accurate because my models predict a
temperature between
absolute zero and the surface
temperature of the sun, but that error range is so large, it
means I'm not really predicting anything.
It is no surprise there is significant disagreement over the amount of warming estimated — as James Hansen and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies explain7, there is no clear definition of what we
mean by
absolute surface air
temperature and wide variation in the estimated
mean surface
temperature of the planet.
Systematic errors propagate as their root -
mean - square, which
means that the uncertainty of an anomaly is greater than the uncertainty of the
absolute temperatures used to calculate it.
Note: Excel used to calculate the 3 - year
absolute temperature and CO2 level averages; also used to calculate the moving 36 - month and 360 - month per century acceleration / deceleration trends (Excel slope function) as depicted on chart; the
absolute temps calculated using the HadCRUT4 month anomalies and NOAA's monthly global
mean temperature estimates; and, the 3 - year average beginning value for CO2 was offset to a zero starting place.
A simple model for this is to consider first 2 flat plates, separated by some distance, with one plate at Earth's
mean surface
temperature and the other at
absolute zero (OK, real universe is at ~ 3K, but it won't change the description by much).
It particular it explains why if you take it as sampling
absolute temperature, the error is too high, but if you subtract
means to form anomalies, you remove most of the variation, and the sampling error of the
mean is back to reasonable.
In recent decades the ITCZ has been migrating north moving it farther away from Easter Island and as that distance increases
absolute humidity over Easter Island will necessarily decrease which necessarily
means in increasing
temperature delta between daytime high and nighttime low.
If «warming» here is used to
mean «
absolute temperature» the debate is quite open.
Eggs cool faster in space at
absolute zero than in the fridge, but that doesn't
mean that cool fridges (eg at 7C) transfer heat that were put there at room
temperature
@ - «This is why homeostasis is the key feature of global
absolute surface
temperatures, which have fluctuated by little more than 1 % either side of the long - run
mean in the past few tens of thousands of years.
I suspect that 50 US stations would NOT give a very accurate
ABSOLUTE estimate for the
mean temperature, but WOULD be adequate for indicating CHANGES in
temperature.
Technically it's an abuse of language to just say «
absolute temperature» when you really
mean Kelvin scale.
This would
mean that in the Minnett experiment, the
absolute SST would drop but the relative
temperatures between the SST and the 5 cm depth may well increase for a time because the amount radiated by the ocean must decrease (due to the increased DLR making up the difference) and so convection will tend to increase the 5 cm warmth.
We obtain an
absolute temperature scale using the Jones et al. [69] estimate of 14 °C as the global
mean surface
temperature for 1961 — 1990, which corresponds to approximately 13.9 °C for the 1951 — 1980 base period that we normally use [70] and approximately 14.4 °C for the first decade of the twenty - first century.
That is a measure of the average level of molecular energy discharged in the browning action of the gasses that make up earth's A. Any system or body of mass that exists at a T: state > 0 ° K has an energy state that can be expressed as an
absolute mean average
Temperature.
The uncertainty in
temperatures for any particular year
means that it is rare for all datasets to agree on
absolute values, however ranks may be more similar.
Below we have the Armagh Max, Min and
Mean annual
temperatures and the annual
mean plotted with the CET
absolute mean temperatures for the corresponding period.
Getting the
absolute temperature wrong
means that you will screw up processes that are
temperature dependent.
That's what I
meant to say, that the the increase in land
temperature, in other words the anomaly, was 50 % greater than the average and twice the SST, not the shorthand which was misinterpreted as an
absolute temperature.
But the heart of his paper is the construction from published metereological data of a table of
mean temperature and relative and
absolute humidity for the surface of the earth between 60 degrees south and 70 degrees north.
Note that regional
mean anomalies (in particular global anomalies) are not computed from the current
absolute mean and the 1951 - 80
mean for that region, but from station
temperature anomalies.