As you can clearly see, the 60 - month UAH alignment shifts the entire record down, artificially offsetting the satellite temps and making surface and
model temperatures seem much higher.
Not exact matches
The flaring of M - dwarfs
seems to die down over time, and new climate
models suggest that even a locked planet could be habitable because its atmosphere would help even out the
temperatures.
Regional trends are notoriously problematic for
models, and
seems more likely to me that the underprediction of European warming has to do with either the
modeled ocean
temperature pattern, the
modelled atmospheric response to this pattern, or some problem related to the local hydrological cycle and boundary layer moisture dynamics.
Several
models see a positive feedback of clouds when the
temperatures increase, but this
seems to be wrong, at least in the tropics and the Arctic, where clouds form a strong negative feedback.
Their
model certainly doesn't explain all of the features of the
temperature record, but since it was never their claim to have done so, such criticisms
seem misplaced.
This
seems to be associated with particular patterns of change in sea surface
temperature in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, a teleconnection which is well - captured in climate
models on seasonal timescales.
By the 2030s, the
modeling showed this year's coral bleaching
temperatures could become average and after that they may start to
seem cool.
This is based on one
model, and that
model has flaws (especially its
temperature sensitivity that
seems too great (David Galbraith's work), and its rainfall that
seems to low (our PNAS paper PDF).
Jacob (and many, many others)
seem to think that if
model A, when run from 1900 to present, predicts the relatively flat, global average surface
temperature record over the past decade, is a better match to reality than
model B which does not.
Most
models seem to have a very large margin of error, so that almost any recent
temperature result can be said to fall within the M of E and validate the
model.
It is quite strange that this paper
seems to review future of tropical rainforest in the face of rising CO2 and rising
temperature — unfortunately, it completely lacks to mention change in precipitation, which is just - another - very - important (climate change) metric — and it completely fails to mention
modelling work of Peter Cox group — that predicts decline in rain forest productivity and growth due to decline in precipitation..
So the problem has been principally with MSU 2LT, which despite a strong surface
temperature trend did not
seem to have been warming very much — while
models and basic physics predict that it should be warming at a slightly larger rate than the surface.
The two most common arguments against warming theories
seem to be (1) local
temperature variations (or mutually - inconclusive data) disprove global warming itself; and (2)
models aren't real science, anyway, so we don't need to worry about them.
If this heat has been lost to space, and the
models have not accounted for it, it would
seem to me that it must have an effect on the
model «projections» because the non-equalibrium forcing has changed (the system has been reset at a lower
temperature).
The argument that larger sensitivity for natural (mainly solar and volcanic) goes at the cost of the sensitivity for natural and man - made greenhouse gases, or enhanced variability during pre-industrial times, would result in a redistribution of weight towards the role of natural factors in forcing
temperature changes,
seems to rely on a
model like the following: T = a * ANTHRO + b * NAT
RE # 24, Ferdinand you state, «Several
models see a positive feedback of clouds when the
temperatures increase, but this
seems to be wrong, at least in the tropics and the Arctic, where clouds form a strong negative feedback.»
Several
models see a positive feedback of clouds when the
temperatures increase, but this
seems to be wrong, at least in the tropics and the Arctic, where clouds form a strong negative feedback.
Right now, we know that there is a solar cycle, that this cycle is parallel to the CO2 cycle and that the volcano signals (as interpreted by the
models)
seem to be almost invisible in the
temperature data (Foukal picture).
A couple of years ago, when it was starting to become obvious that the average global surface
temperature was not rising at anywhere near the rate that climate
models projected, and in fact
seemed to be leveling off rather than speeding up, explanations for the slowdown sprouted like mushrooms in compost.
In short, whatever the initial climate sensitivity is to a doubling of CO2, I just can't buy off on this positive feedback loop idea that says that
temperatures are going to spin out of control once we pass over some «tipping point» that only
seems to exists in some scientist's theoretical
model.
It is the case that Hansens first
models came out in 1988 and he did
seem to correctly predict the spiking
temperatures up until 1998 and the El Nino
seemed to show the scary Scenario A behavior he described.
If we do not apply any physical
modelling to the problem of finding the global average
temperature, it
seems to me that for each point on the Earth we can make no better
temperature estimate than by interpolation based on triangles.
It
seems as though the magnitude of the
model biases in global average
temperature do have some relationship with the magnitude of
modeled future warming.
In «panel a» there appears to be quite a bit of agreement between
modeled and observed global
temperature from 1861 to the present and thus this
seems to provide compelling visual support for climate
models» ability to simulate / project global average
temperature in the future.
«Willis builds a strawman Willis makes a logical fallacy known as the strawman fallacy here, when he says: The current climate paradigm says that the surface air
temperature is a linear function of the «forcing»... Change in Temperature (∆ T) = Change in Forcing (∆ F) times Climate Sensitivity What he seems to have done is taking an equation relating to a simple energy balance model (probably from this Wikipedia entry) and applied it to the much more complex clim
temperature is a linear function of the «forcing»... Change in
Temperature (∆ T) = Change in Forcing (∆ F) times Climate Sensitivity What he seems to have done is taking an equation relating to a simple energy balance model (probably from this Wikipedia entry) and applied it to the much more complex clim
Temperature (∆ T) = Change in Forcing (∆ F) times Climate Sensitivity What he
seems to have done is taking an equation relating to a simple energy balance
model (probably from this Wikipedia entry) and applied it to the much more complex climate system.
«We can't think of anything else» is not very good as an answer and, according to him (I have no idea), predictive
models of
temperature - vs - CO2 concentration
seem to be lacking.
The entire idea of using a climate
model to «determine» the true influence of eastern Pacific
temperatures seems to me a bit of a stretch..
It
seems to me that the key issue is not to say whether current
models accout for 40 % or 60 % of the observed variance in
temperature but to generate falsifiable hypotheses from the
models.
Much of the transfer from surface to upper troposphere occurs during non-equilibrium conditions that are hard to
model, but it would
seem that a small surface
temperature increase ought to accompany a larger upper troposphere
temperature increase.
Kininmonth
seems to suggest that
models can't handle
temperature increases properly in terms of evaporation.
They claim that aerosols will significantly affect
temperatures in the future and
models will be inaccurate if this is not considered (
seems obvious enough to me).
soundly based in actual
temperature observations of the real world... while yours
seems to be largely dreamt up as a consequence of untried and unproven
models.
Also the importance of (
temperature) measurement errors on the long term predictibility of non linear time series (=
temperature records and proxies)
seems to be key to me for an eventual validation of any predicitve
model.
An ingenious theory, but the
model set out in that paper
seems to make predictions about what would happend to surface
temperature if CO ₂ concentration were to vary which are out of kilter with empirical measurements by several orders of magitude in timescale and at least one order of magnitude and possibly the wrong sign in
temperature.
For large scale quantities like global
temperature, climate
models seem to do this well.
It now
seems clear that we are not
modelling future global
temperature with anything like the precision the IPCC claims and that the
models are very substantially overestimating the rate of global
temperature change: basically they are «wrong».
Seems to disprove my theory above... they are perhaps just doing the usual «here is a proxy
temperature record, now please look over here at the
model «projections»..
They don't
seem to realize anywhere in the paper that the
temperature data they are relying of for input to their
models used for permafrost thaw comes from the little white box at the edge of the tarmac.
Considering the recent evidence that climate
models have failed to predict the flattening of the global
temperature curve, and that global warming
seems to have ended some 15 years ago, the work of the NIPCC is particularly important.»
And the climate
models seem to get the warming rate of sea surface
temperatures just right for the smallest portion of the global oceans, the extratropical Northern Hemisphere (24N - 90N).
Although there have been jumps and dips, average atmospheric
temperatures have risen little since 1998, in
seeming defiance of projections of climate
models and the ever - increasing emissions of greenhouse gases.»
But what with evidence somewhat lacking on positive CO2 feed backs, the present
temperature plateau continuing,
model projections of warming way out with observation, the analogy appears a bit, well, Ehrlichean,
seems to me.And then there's the bleeding of economies by costs of CO2 reduction measures and subsidizing ineffectual, (evidence indicates even un-environmental) renewable energy policies, no gain for lotsa» pain.
In particular, the satellite
temperature models seem more sensitive to the ENSO cycles.
Current GCM
models may have realistic -
seeming weather patterns, but are totally incapable of producing phenomena that look like the Holocene (Little Ice Age, Medieval Warm Period, Roman Warm Period, Holocene Optimum, the steady decline of
temperature on average over the last 3,000 years, etc.) The Climate Science community has, instead, taken the path of trying to claim that these swings didn't occur (Michael Mann's «Hockey Stick», etc.) This does not give me a lot of confidence in the rest of their «science».
In terms of having anything useful to say about the likely
temperature profile over the coming century, climate
models seem to me to have too many weak links.
This casts some doubt on projections of global warming in as much as there
seems to be a built - in bias in the
models to overestimation of
temperatures.
This
seems to be an even greater blow than the failure of the global
temperature to follow the
models trend lines projected from the warming from 1970 to 1998.
This is important because the CAGW now
seems to centre around CO2 causing «extreme weather» and the suggested activity by the different agencies to move the global
temperature up to the
models rather than the other way round.
This hardly
seems to fit the IPCC description that «[m] odels reproduce observed continental - scale surface
temperature patterns and trends over many decades» or is grounds for having «very high confidence» that the «
model simulations show a trend in global - mean surface
temperature from 1951 to 2012 that agrees with the observed trend.»
And, because the planet hasn't reached boiling point (in bitter defiance of the IPCC's
models), the once concrete relationship between CO2 emissions and increasing global
temperature now
seems murky, at best.