Are you really claiming that models perfectly simulate «internal
model weather noise»?
Not exact matches
While Subaru stepped up the
weather stripping over the base
model, the XT is still full of wind
noise.
First, doesn't the
model uncertainty include both
model noise (i.e.,
weather fluctuations) and systematic differences among the
models?
[Response: Over short periods the size of the
weather noise is significantly larger than the structural differences in the
models.
Using the broad uncertainty you provide for the
models (
weather noise, etc.), I calculate that the T2LT and T2 means deviate from the
model means at the level of 1.25 and 1.26 (sigma - means), respectively.
While this methodology doesn't eliminate your point that the trends from different periods in the observed record (or from different observed datasets) fall at various locations within our
model - derived 95 % confidence range (clearly they do), it does provide justification for using the most recent data to show that sometimes (including currently), the observed trends (which obviously contain natural variability, or,
weather noise) push the envelop of
model trends (which also contain
weather noise).
There are two classes of uncertainty in
models — one is the systematic bias in any particular metric due to a misrepresentation of the physics etc, the other is uncertainty related to
weather (the
noise).
It's just that the
noise within the
models is not correlated in time with the real
noise; getting that right would be like predicting the
weather several years out.
The
models also produce their own such
weather noise.
(1) In this case even if they were correct and the
models failed to predict or match reality (which, acc to this post has not been adequately established, bec we're still in overlapping data and
model confidence intervals), it could just as well mean that AGW stands and the modelers have failed to include some less well understood or unquantifiable earth system variable into the
models, or there are other unknowns within our
weather / climate / earth systems, or some
noise or choas or catastrophe (whose equation has not been found yet) thing.
In the case of climate
models, this is complicated by the fact that the time scales involved need to be long enough to average out the short - term
noise, i.e. the chaotic sequences of «
weather» events.
My opinion, judging from the amount of unforced (and hence unpredictable)
weather noise is that you would not have been able to say that even a perfect
model was clearly better than this.
I would really like some clarity as to how the ensemble of
model runs are whittled down into a narrower subset without comprimising the ability of the
model to «span the full range» of «
weather noise».
That is a part of the «
noise» that needs to be teased out if you wish to
model «climate» or «
weather».
This «
weather noise» is assumed to be obtained from the calculations even tho the
models / codes / application procedures do not resolve «
weather».
The other
model I looked at (The canadian one) didn't have as much «
weather noise» in GMST.
That is exactly what Schmidt is doing when he is «generating»
weather noise in his GCMs even if the
model does something infinitely crudest than DNS.
For example, Echo - G seems to have a huge amount of
weather noise at the GMST level which sets it apart from other
models.
Opting for
models with seriously thick glass will be your saving grace, and that's why many
noise - conscious individuals choose storm windows with sturdy frames and decent
weather stripping.