Our computer models do not
model the effects of clouds well.
It all depends on how
you model the effects of clouds.
Not exact matches
The
model calculations, which are based on data from the
CLOUD experiment, reveal that the cooling
effects of clouds are 27 percent less than in climate simulations without this
effect as a result
of additional particles caused by human activity: Instead
of a radiative
effect of -0.82 W / m2 the outcome is only -0.60 W / m2.
The
model calculations show that the
effects as a result
of changes in ionisation through the sun are too small to make a significant contribution to
cloud formation.
Mission leaders were relieved and eager to begin their studies
of cloud and haze
effects, which «constitute the largest uncertainties in our
models of future climate — that's no exaggeration,» says Jens Redemann, an atmospheric scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California, and the principal investigator for ObseRvations
of Aerosols above CLouds and their IntEractionS (ORACLES).
In a recent study, for instance, well - respected climate
models were shown to have completely opposing estimates for the overall
effect of the
clouds and smoke in the southeast Atlantic: Some found net warming, whereas others found cooling.
CUMULUS CAUSALITY In «A Formula for Economic Calamity,» by David H. Freedman, David Colander
of Middlebury College asserts that climate
models often have no terms to account for the
effects of clouds.
Using a NASA computer
model, Oman tracked the worldwide
effects of the sulfate aerosol
cloud that formed following the Laki eruption.
Which
of these
effects dominates depends on the type, distribution and altitude
of the
clouds — difficult for climate
models to predict.
The information could also feed into climate
models to help understand the
effects of clouds and aerosols on Earth's energy balance.
The other two shortlisted missions — which had been whittled down from an original list
of over 20 possibilities — were CoReH2O, which sought to
model the water balance in glaciers and snow - covered areas, and PREMIER, which aimed to study chemical processes in the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere and the radiative
effects of clouds.
Among the most uncertain elements in climate
models are the
effects of aerosols and their interactions with
clouds — just the things involved in albedo modification — she says.
Reporting in the Nov. 14 issue
of the journal Science, University
of California, Berkeley, climate scientist David Romps and his colleagues look at predictions
of precipitation and
cloud buoyancy in 11 different climate
models and conclude that their combined
effect will generate more frequent electrical discharges to the ground.
This fog layer is induced by the large nighttime precipitation, missed by current climate
models, which underestimated the
effect of clouds and precipitation.
His
model also makes specific predictions about the
effect these
clouds will have on the planet's climate and the types
of information that future telescopes, like the James Webb Space Telescope, will be able to gather.
The multi-scale aerosol - climate
model, an extension
of a multi-scale
modeling framework, examined specific aerosol -
cloud interactions and their
effects on the Earth's energy budget, one
of the toughest climate forecasting problems.
Sally, who was nominated by Dr. Beat Schmid, Associate Director, Atmospheric Sciences and Global Change Division, was honored for her exceptional contribution in the field
of atmospheric science, particularly in her efforts to improve understanding
of the radiative
effect of clouds and aerosols on the Earth's atmosphere and their representation in climate
models.
An adjustment is necessary because as climate
models are continually evaluated against observations evidence has become emerged that the strength
of their aerosol -
cloud interactions are too strong (i.e. the
models» «aerosol indirect
effect» is larger than inferred from observations).
When the CLIMAP data proved to be wrong, and was replaced by more reliable estimates showing a substantial tropical surface temperature drop, Lindzen had to abandon his then - current
model and move on to other forms
of mischief (first the «cumulus drying» negative water vapor feedback mechanism, since abandoned, and now the «Iris»
effect cloud feedback mechanism).
Possible reasons include increased oceanic circulation leading to increased subduction
of heat into the ocean, higher than normal levels
of stratospheric aerosols due to volcanoes during the past decade, incorrect ozone levels used as input to the
models, lower than expected solar output during the last few years, or poorly
modeled cloud feedback
effects.
Lin, W.Y., and M.H. Zhang, 2004: Evaluation
of clouds and their radiative
effects simulated by the NCAR Community Atmospheric
Model against satellite observations.
This result suggests that
models may not yet adequately represent the long - term feedbacks related to ocean circulation, vegetation and associated dust, or the cryosphere, and / or may underestimate the
effects of tropical
clouds or other short - term feedback processes.»
New
modelling methods provide more precise information than ever on the
effect of landforms on
cloud formation
And as this knowledge is disseminated and better understood, eventually we'll have better
models, and can achieve more widespread adoption
of them - if the solar / cosmic ray /
cloud mechanism is significant it could explain why temperatures in neither hemisphere are proceeding upwards lock - step with IPCC forecasts - and opening the door for a more accurate and widespread acknowledgement
of CO2
effects on temperature and climate.
But, as far as I can see, the «attacks» by vested interests are not even able to make legitimate points (e.g. uncertainty about the
effects of clouds or aerosols in climate
models).
«By comparing the response
of clouds and water vapor to ENSO forcing in nature with that in AMIP simulations by some leading climate
models, an earlier evaluation
of tropical
cloud and water vapor feedbacks has revealed two common biases in the
models: (1) an underestimate
of the strength
of the negative
cloud albedo feedback and (2) an overestimate
of the positive feedback from the greenhouse
effect of water vapor.
Steve Reynolds, The fact that the sign is not known for
clouds may indicate a variety
of things: 1) lack
of data, 2) the net
effect may be near zero, 3) the mechanism may be obscure or there may be competing mechanisms that make it difficult to determine how to include the
effects in the
model.
Data from satellite observations «suggest that greenhouse
models ignore negative feedback produced by
clouds and by water vapor, that diminish the warming
effects»
of human carbon dioxide emissions.
Eventually, when we know more about the
effects of the mechanisms involved, fluctuations in cosmic rays could be incorporated in helping
model cloud albedo changes.
This result suggests that
models may not yet adequately represent the long - term feedbacks related to ocean circulation, vegetation and associated dust, or the cryosphere, and / or may underestimate the
effects of tropical
clouds or other short - term feedback processes.»
Taking into account the obscuring
effects of high
cloud, it was found that thick low
clouds decreased by more than 20 % in the eastern tropical Pacific... In contrast, most increase in low
cloud amount due to doubled CO2 simulated by the NCAR and GFDL
models occurs in the subtropical subsidence regimes associated with a strong atmospheric stability.»
[Response: These feedbacks are indeed
modelled because they depend not on the trace greenhouse gas amounts, but on the variation
of seasonal incoming solar radiation and
effects like snow cover, water vapour amounts,
clouds and the diurnal cycle.
The top panel shows the direct
effects of the individual components, while the second panel attributes various indirect factors (associated with atmospheric chemistry, aerosol
cloud interactions and albedo
effects) and includes a
model estimate
of the «efficacy»
of the forcing that depends on its spatial distribution.
They may also help researchers understand the
effects of cloud cover, which also creates diffuse light and represents the biggest source
of uncertainty in climate
models, he says.
A good friend
of mine (who's a scientist in an area far removed from climate) was arguing some time ago that the climate
models are useless because they don't include
clouds at all or in such a crude way that their
effect is totally meaningless.
So, the question
of whether or not more
of these
clouds would be formed, along with the question
of their net
effect (given that they reflect sunlight from above, but also trap heat from below), gives rise to some degree
of imprecision when it comes to the degree
of warming predicted by
models.
When the CLIMAP data proved to be wrong, and was replaced by more reliable estimates showing a substantial tropical surface temperature drop, Lindzen had to abandon his then - current
model and move on to other forms
of mischief (first the «cumulus drying» negative water vapor feedback mechanism, since abandoned, and now the «Iris»
effect cloud feedback mechanism).
Similarily, the uncertainty in aerosols is mostly in the data (and then
cloud effects), the «masking»
effect is a result
of the
model's physics it isn't just parameterized and fed in.
I write it off as a very real
effect that is not well characterized by the
models, probably because these
models don't
model with enough accuracy the
effect of the additional aerosol particles on
cloud production to properly account for it's full
effect on temperature.
You claim that what you're doing shows the
effect of cloud forcing uncertainty in the
models, but if those results are plainly not really representative
of what would happen in the
models, then there's a disconnect.
In
models that include indirect
effects, different treatments
of the indirect
effect are used, including changing the albedo
of clouds according to an off - line calculation (e.g., Tett et al., 2002) and a fully interactive treatment
of the
effects of aerosols on
clouds (e.g., Stott et al., 2006b).
In addition, some
models include the indirect
effects of tropospheric sulphate aerosols on
clouds (e.g., Tett et al., 2002), whereas others consider only the direct radiative
effect (e.g., Meehl et al., 2004).
These
models suggest that if the net
effect of ocean circulation, water vapour,
cloud, and snow feedbacks were zero, the approximate temperature response to a doubling
of carbon dioxide from pre-industrial levels would be a 1oC warming.
(Phys.org)-- The first study that combines different scales —
cloud - sized and earth - sized — in one
model to simulate the
effects of Asian pollution on the Pacific storm track shows that Asian pollution can influence weather...
Climate
models that include these aerosol -
cloud interactions fail to include a number
of buffering responses, such as rainfall scavenging
of the aerosols and compensating dynamical
effects (which would reduce the magnitude
of the aci cooling
effect).
If, for instance, CO2 concentrations are doubled, then the absorption would increase by 4 W / m2, but once the water vapor and
clouds react, the absorption increases by almost 20 W / m2 — demonstrating that (in the GISS climate
model, at least) the «feedbacks» are amplifying the
effects of the initial radiative forcing from CO2 alone.
Could tropical
cloud feedbacks, or the coupling to ENSO, amplify the
effects of low latitude hydrological responses to high - latitude anomalies in these
models?
The
effect of large - scale
model time step and multiscale coupling frequency on
cloud climatology, vertical structure, and rainfall extremes in a superparameterized global climate
model.
In this paper we explore the
effect of reducing the large - scale
model time step, which has the byproduct
of increasing the frequency with which the planetary vs.
cloud resolving scales are allowed to interact.
''... the warming is only missing if one believes computer
models where so - called feedbacks involving water vapor and
clouds greatly amplify the small
effect of CO2.»