Somewhere we have to have a list of the various elements that have been proposed to explain the difference between
modeled sea ice loss and actual loss.
Not exact matches
Consistency and discrepancy in the atmospheric response to Arctic
sea -
ice loss across climate
models.
This gives confidence in the predictions of the current generation of
ice - sheet
models which are used to forecast future
ice loss from Antarctica and resulting
sea - level rise.»
However, a number of studies have indicated that climate
models underestimate the
loss of Arctic
sea ice, which is why the
models might not be the most suitable tools to quantify the future evolution of the
ice cover.
Dirk Notz and Julienne Stroeve have now compared corresponding
model calculations with data from satellite measurements, and discovered that the climate
models underestimate the
loss of Arctic
sea ice.
The findings are relevant to modern - day atmospheric
models and to an understanding of what a
loss of
sea ice means to both
sea and land temperatures.
«When we look forward several decades, climate
models predict such profound
loss of Arctic
sea ice that there's little doubt this will negatively affect polar bears throughout much of their range, because of their critical dependence on
sea ice,» said Kristin Laidre, a researcher at the University of Washington's Polar Science Center in Seattle and co-author of a study on projections of the global polar bear population.
He says previous predictive
models of Greenland's
ice loss did not adequately take into account the faster movement of its southern glaciers, which is accelerating the amount of
ice entering the ocean: «Greenland is probably going to contribute more to
sea level rise, and faster than predicted by these
models.»
Using the sophisticated UK Met Office climate
model, Dr Screen conducted computer experiments to study the effects of Arctic
sea -
ice loss on the NAO and on Northern European winter temperatures.
Conversely,
sea -
ice loss in the Antarctic would be expected to increase California's precipitation, according to the study's
modeling.
Kuhn, from Germany's Alfred Wegener Institute, added, «This gives confidence in the predictions of the current generation of
ice sheet
models which are used to forecast future
ice loss from Antarctica and resulting
sea - level rise.»
The remote impacts of Arctic
sea -
ice loss can only be properly represented using
models that simulate interactions among the ocean,
sea ice, land and atmosphere.
Computational
models that simulate the climate such as CAM5, which is the atmosphere component of the Community Earth System
Model used in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 5th Assessment, are used to predict future climate changes, such as the Arctic
sea ice loss.
Joughin et al. (2010) applied a numerical
ice sheet
model to predicting the future of PIG, their
model suggested ongoing
loss of
ice mass from PIG, with a maximum rate of global
sea level rise of 2.7 cm per century.
The new findings stem from an analysis that links a widely - used framework for projecting how
sea level around the world will respond to climate change to a
model that accounts for recently identified processes contributing to Antarctic
ice loss.
Our
modelled values are consistent with current rates of Antarctic
ice loss and
sea - level rise, and imply that accelerated mass
loss from marine - based portions of Antarctic
ice sheets may ensue when an increase in global mean air temperature of only 1.4 - 2.0 deg.
I'm not arguing that Tietsche is wrong vis a vis «tipping points» — I'm arguing that climate * is * driving
sea ice loss and that the
model Tietsche used lacked the proper mechanisms to reliably extrapolate forwards.
Most past
modeling experiments that investigated the atmospheric response to Arctic change only considered the
loss of
sea ice, which of course misses much of the effect of Arctic amplification.
The
sea ice loss rate seems to be very sensitive to
model resolution and has improved in CMIP5 — implicating aspects of the
model structure as the main source of the problem.
Models Coming into Agreement on Widespread Effects of Arctic
Sea Ice Loss https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/
models-coming-agreement-widespread-effects-arctic-
sea-
ice-
loss
Global climate
model projections (in CMIP3 at least) appear to underestimate
sea ice extent
losses with respect to observations, though this is not universally true for all
models and some of them actually have ensemble spreads that are compatible with PIOMAS
ice volume estimates and satellite observations of
sea ice extent.
The lag between decreases in
sea ice extent during late summer and changes in the mid-latitude atmospheric circulation during other seasons (like autumn and winter, when the recent
loss of
sea ice is much smaller) have been demonstrated empirically, but have not been captured by existing dynamical
models.
Polar bears haven't seen what the
ice models are predicting if we don't deal with the warming patterns and
sea ice loss.
Of course, the IPCC
models didn't predict the Arctic
sea ice loss, either.
This makes me curious about how
sea ice loss is
modeled.
Combined climate /
ice sheet
model estimates in which the Greenland surface temperature was as high during the Eemian as indicated by the NEEM
ice core record suggest that
loss of less than about 1 m
sea level equivalent is very unlikely (e.g. Robinson et al. (2011).
That typically occurs in
ice - sheet
model simulations that involve more than about 2 m of
sea - level - equivalent mass
loss.
Individual responses continue to be based on a range of methods: statistical, numerical
models, comparison with previous rates of
sea ice loss, composites of several approaches, estimates based on various non
sea ice datasets and trends, and subjective information (the heuristic category).
Models created by experts said such a dramatic
loss of
sea ice would cause a sharp drop in the polar bear population and threaten their very survival.
Individual responses continue to be based on a range of methods: statistical, numerical
models, comparison with previous rates of
sea ice loss, estimates based on various non-
sea ice datasets and trends, and subjective information (the «heuristic» category).
But once the ongoing effect of warming shocks to the glacier front were
modeled for the next 90 years, a maximum realistic
sea - level rise from Greenland's
ice -
loss was 2 inches.
The divergence in timing of
sea ice loss between
models and data — decades as represented by
ice volume in Figure 3 — is physically irreconcilable.
What I am saying is that if Arctic
sea ice loss is occurring faster than
models predict, then, all else being equal, the earth should be warming faster than
models predict.
It may be worth considering that if climate
models are underplaying the actual amount of Arctic
sea ice loss, and if Arctic
sea ice loss is a positive feedback on global temperature, then, the observed rate of Arctic
sea ice loss ought to be applying a warming pressure over and above that from greenhouse gas emissions.
The graph shows IPCC
model runs projecting arctic
sea ice loss into the future.
The global climate
models used in the 2007 IPCC report also failed to acount for the extent of Arctic
sea ice loss (Figure 9).
A classic case in point was the discovery that field observations of the
loss of arctic
sea ice showed that by 2007 it had advanced to a level predicted by the mean of
models of that
loss as occurring in the 2100s, while that mean was used as the consensus projection in AR4.
Some previous
models project an
ice - free summer period in the Arctic Ocean by 2040 (Holland et al., 2006), and even as early as the late 2030s using a criterion of 80 %
sea ice area
loss (e.g., Zhang, 2010).
The July 2010
Sea Ice Outlook Report is based on a synthesis of 17 individual pan-Arctic estimates using a wide range of methods: statistical, numerical models, comparison with observations and rates of ice loss, composites of several approach
Ice Outlook Report is based on a synthesis of 17 individual pan-Arctic estimates using a wide range of methods: statistical, numerical
models, comparison with observations and rates of
ice loss, composites of several approach
ice loss, composites of several approaches.
Climate
models have successfully predicted the
loss of Arctic
sea ice,
sea level rise and the geographic pattern of global warming.
NOAA's CSV2
model predicted much greater
sea ice loss around Antarctica than normal, and much higher
sea surface temperatures than normal months before it happened.
He found that prescribed
sea ice loss in the
model caused a southward shift of the summer jet stream and increased northern European precipitation.
Individual responses continue to be based on a range of methods: statistical, numerical
models, comparison with previous rates of
sea ice loss, estimates based on various non-
sea ice datasets and trends, and subjective information (i.e., the «heuristic» category).
Direct measurements of the AMOC are only available for the past ten years or so, but Yeager et al. present a combination of observation - and
model - based evidence that suggests that the Atlantic thermohaline circulation (THC, which is closely related to AMOC) transitioned from a weak state in the 1970s to a strong state in the 1990s and that this strengthening contributed to the accelerated rate of winter
sea ice loss that was observed in the late 1990s.
For the decade of 2013 - 2023 (right), the scientists expect to see some winter
sea ice loss balanced with
sea ice gain on the Atlantic side of the Arctic Ocean, where scientists have the most confidence in the
model's ability.
Melt ponds are critical for
sea ice albedo and therefore
modeling the
loss of
sea ice with global warming in global climate
models.
Viable avenues for improving the information base include determining the primary causes of variation among different climate
models and determining which climate
models exhibit the best ability to reproduce the observed rate of
sea ice loss.
As
sea ice declines, it becomes thinner, with less
ice build - up over multiple years, and therefore more vulnerable to further melting.15
Models that best match historical trends project northern waters that are virtually
ice - free by late summer by the 2030s.25, 26,12 Within the general downward trend in
sea ice, there will be time periods with both rapid
ice loss and temporary recovery, 27 making it challenging to predict short - term changes in
ice conditions.
However, there remains uncertainty in the rate of
sea ice loss, with the
models that most accurately project historical
sea ice trends currently suggesting nearly
ice - free conditions sometime between 2021 and 2043 (median 2035).12 Uncertainty across all
models stems from a combination of large differences in projections among different climate
models, natural climate variability, and uncertainty about future rates of fossil fuel emissions.
The
loss of Arctic summer
sea ice was happening faster than CO2 driven
models had predicted, suggesting flawed
models.