How Thorne et al could credibly claim that there is no reasonable evidence of a fundamental disagreement between tropospheric temperature trends from
models and observations when uncertainties in both are treated comprehensively is mind - boggling.
«Thorne et al. ended with the conclusion that «there is no reasonable evidence of a fundamental disagreement between tropospheric temperature trends from
models and observations when uncertainties in both are treated comprehensively».»
Not exact matches
This dataset contains millions of genomic sequences from a diverse set of rice varieties that,
when combined with phenotyping
observations, gene expression,
and other information, provides an important step in establishing gene - trait associations, building predictive
models,
and applying these
models to breeding.
Medvigy
and Jeong found that prediction
modeling for the entire United States indeed improves dramatically
when the analyses include data from macro-scale
observations, meaning from multiple sites spread over a large area.
NOAA's Coral Reef Watch uses satellite
observations of sea surface temperatures
and modeling to monitor
and forecast
when water temperatures rise enough to cause bleaching.
Combining computer
models constructed largely by Princeton University researchers with on - ship
observations, the researchers determined the movement
and energy of the waves from their origin on a double - ridge between Taiwan
and the Philippines to
when they fade off the coast of China.
«Its existence was predicted by the standard
model of particle physics
and the fact that there's — we got a glimpse of it, it looks like it may very well be there — is a real victory for that
model of science where you test, you put forward conceptual
models of the way the world or the universe works
and test those
models against the
observations and see the extent to which they can predict new
observations and when they do, it gives you increased confidence in the
models.
Right now, all of the
models that forecasters use, as well as
observations of what's currently happening in the tropical Pacific, are indicating that this El Niño is going to be a strong one come late fall
and winter,
when it usually peaks.
When combined with General Circulation
Models, such
observations would be essential in understanding the hydrological cycle
and seasonal variation on Titan.
This involves a combination of satellite
observations (
when different satellites captured temperatures in both morning
and evening), the use of climate
models to estimate how temperatures change in the atmosphere over the course of the day,
and using reanalysis data that incorporates readings from surface
observations, weather balloons
and other instruments.
In fact, the calculation has been done very carefully by Hansen
and co-workers, taking all factors into consideration,
and when compared with
observations of ocean heat storage over a period long enough for the observed changes to be reliably assessed,
models and observations agree extremely well (see this article
and this article.).
When combined with previous
observations, new research with the Heterodyne Instrument for Planetary Wind
And Composition (HIPWAC) joined to the large aperture of the Subaru telescope supports the
model that Titan has currents or jet streams at high latitudes racing through its upper atmosphere (stratosphere) at speeds of approximately 756 km / hour (470 miles / hr.).
This dataset contains millions of genomic sequences from a diverse set of rice varieties that,
when combined with phenotyping
observations, gene expression,
and other information, provides an important step in establishing gene - trait associations, building predictive
models,
and applying these
models to breeding.
Consistent with this
observation, the strength of the inverse association with risk of type 2 diabetes was similar for decaffeinated (multivariate RR 0.81 [95 % CI 0.73 — 0.90]-RRB-
and caffeinated coffee consumption (0.87 [0.83 — 0.91]-RRB-
when expressed for a one - cup increment in consumption per day
and simultaneously included in the multivariate
model.
This article is primarily about (1) the extent to which the data generated by «high - quality
observation systems» can inform principals» human capital decisions (e.g., teacher hiring, contract renewal, assignment to classrooms, professional development),
and (2) the extent to which principals are relying less on test scores derived via value - added
models (VAMs),
when making the same decisions,
and why.
In the global mean, there isn't much of an issue for the mid-troposphere — the
models and data track each other
when you expect they would (the long term trends or after volcanoes,
and don't where you expect them not to, such as during La Niña / El Niño events which occur at different times in
models and observations).
When this is done for predicting elections, say, something called «stratification» is used, where
observations are qualified by (in this case) spatial extent, time of day,
and other auxiliary variables
and the response state of atmosphere considered as conditioned on these,
and the
model evaluated comparably, where it can be.
Modelling is generally shunned in attribution in favor of observation, but I do agree that climate science must turn to modelling when necessary, and that the statements in the 2010 post about using a lab are quite accurate and in
Modelling is generally shunned in attribution in favor of
observation, but I do agree that climate science must turn to
modelling when necessary, and that the statements in the 2010 post about using a lab are quite accurate and in
modelling when necessary,
and that the statements in the 2010 post about using a lab are quite accurate
and insightful.
Wadhams
and the AMEG argue that
observations are more to be relied on than
models, especially
when the
models have proved unreliable in the past.
There is one major caveat with these products though,
and that is that while the
model isn't changing over time, the input data is
and there are large variations in the amount
and quality of
observations — particularly around 1979
when a lot of satellite
observations came on line, but also later as the mix
and quality of data has changed.
When we do so with CMIP5
and with the three main temperature records we fins an underlying trend for CMIP5 matching that for Fyfe et al,
and for CMIP4,
and a discrepancy between
observations and models far closer to that obtained by Foster
and Rahmstorf than that obtained by Fyfe et al..
As you clearly know, nothing could be more important than understanding
and propagating error
when evaluating the level of quantitative knowledge yielded by some experiment,
observation, or sequential calculation — including use of a
model to predict a result.
When Copernicus, Kepler
and Galileo found that science
and observations did not support Ptolemy's clever
and complex
model of the solar system, the totalitarian establishment of their day advised such heretics to recant — or be battered, banished or even burned at the stake.
And when weighing between observations and models, the former trumps every ti
And when weighing between
observations and models, the former trumps every ti
and models, the former trumps every time.
In - depth analysis reveals that the
model's shallow cumulus convection scheme tends to significantly under - produce clouds during the times
when shallow cumuli exist in the
observations, while the deep convective
and stratiform cloud schemes significantly over-produce low - level clouds throughout the day.
More disconcerting,
when models added the effects of CO2
and aerosols to natural factors (the red line labeled ALL), discrepancies between
models and 1940s
observations worsened.
When Armour factored rising sensitivity into that 2013
observation - based Nature Geoscience report
and recalculated climate sensitivity, he got a best estimate of 2.9 º C — a value well within the IPCC's consensus range
and the range predicted by
models.
As I said,
when comparing with
observations over the short period being considered here, it makes more sense to compare with
models that include natural internal variability (i.e.: GCMs — as in the final version) than against models that do not include this and only include externally - forced changes (ie: Simple Climate Models, SCMs, — as in the SOD ver
models that include natural internal variability (i.e.: GCMs — as in the final version) than against
models that do not include this and only include externally - forced changes (ie: Simple Climate Models, SCMs, — as in the SOD ver
models that do not include this
and only include externally - forced changes (ie: Simple Climate
Models, SCMs, — as in the SOD ver
Models, SCMs, — as in the SOD version).
It becomes a
model when you try
and describe the
observation mathematically, so as to be able to extrapolate what happens
when a variable changes (ie the amount of water, thickness of the pot, the duration of the heat source, etc.).
The point I want to make (
and I made this point point in the Uncertainty Monster paper) is globally, the
modeled spectral density of the variability,
when compared with
observations, is too high for periods of ~ 8 - 17 years,
and too low for periods of 40 - 70 years.
And experiments aside, we have scores of empirical
observations of rising temperatures, tropospheric lapse rates, energy flux measurements at the top of the atmosphere,
modelling experiments,
observations of other planetary bodies (Venus is an excellent example of what happens
when CO2 concentrations rise well beyond the point of spectral saturation) that all support the greenhouse theory of atmospheres.
Structural uncertainty is attenuated
when convergent results are obtained from a variety of different
models using different methods,
and also
when results rely more on direct
observations (data) rather than on calculations.
There is much greater similarity between the general evolution of the warming in
observations and that simulated by
models when anthropogenic
and natural forcings are included than
when only natural forcing is included (Figure 9.6, third row).
When we constrain the
model projections with
observations, we obtain greater means
and narrower ranges of future global warming across the major radiative forcing scenarios, in general.
Modelling studies are also in moderately good agreement with
observations during the first half of the 20th century
when both anthropogenic
and natural forcings are considered, although assessments of which forcings are important differ, with some studies finding that solar forcing is more important (Meehl et al., 2004) while other studies find that volcanic forcing (Broccoli et al., 2003) or internal variability (Delworth
and Knutson, 2000) could be more important.
Your comment: «In fact you seemed to have gone to quite a lot of trouble to use an image of
Model expectations from another source (with different timeframe
and colour scale),
when four images representing
Model expectations were readily available right beside the
Observations image.»
One very interesting bit of extra information the UW's Polar Science Center has shared this month, is how both PIOMAS (
model)
and CryoSat (satellite
observations) are in agreement with each other
when it comes to sea ice volume distribution.
Radiation Budget of the West African Sahel
and its Controls: A Perspective from
Observations and Global Climate
Models, Miller et al, 8/2012, read more here; ``... GCMs underestimated the surface LW
and SW CRF
and predicted near zero SW CRE
when the measured values were substantially larger...»
Differences between the regression slope
and the true feedback parameter are significantly reduced
when 1) a more realistic value for the ocean mixed layer depth is used, 2) a corrected standard deviation of outgoing radiation is used,
and 3) the
model temperature variability is computed over the same time interval as the
observations.
Simulations by regional climate
models show good agreement with
observations in the seasonal
and spatial variability of the joint distribution, especially
when an ensemble of simulations was used.
As I showed in my Hub,
when you consider that metric, the agreement of
models and observations is quite reasonable.
But almost universally,
when they try to explain it, they all use the purely radiative approach, which is incorrect, misleading, contrary to
observation,
and results in a variety of inconsistencies
when people try to plug real atmospheric physics into a bad
model
The Sedlacek
and Knutti paper is only about oceanic temperatures, not the land record, it shows that the
models do a poor job matching observed oceanic changes over the 20th century
when relying only on natural forcing,
and that if the natural - only runs are scaled to have an overall trend that matches the
observations, the
models predict a more heterogeneous distribution of trends than was observed.
the purely radiative approach, which is incorrect, misleading, contrary to
observation,
and results in a variety of inconsistencies
when people try to plug real atmospheric physics into a bad
model
Let us also expect that the
model is designed from the git - go to be verified by physical measurements
and observations,
and that your conceptual
and detail designs will descibe what kinds of testing methods will be applied, how,
and when.
When we look at the distributions (e.g. data, 1st difference, 2nd difference) of the
observations of global temperature,
and of
modeled temperature, they are very different.
When the fanatics have to choose between
models and observation they choose their religious faith every time.
Models are often tuned by running them backwards against several decades of
observation, this is much too short a period to correlate outputs with
observation when the controlling natural quasi-periodicities of most interest are in the centennial
and especially in the key millennial range.
For a complete discussion of this see Essex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvhipLNeda4
Models are often tuned by running them backwards against several decades of
observation, this is much too short a period to correlate outputs with
observation when the controlling natural quasi-periodicities of most interest are in the centennial
and especially in the key millennial range.
As for your comment, the fundamental point here is that there can be no «planet climate
model»
and «planet
observations»
when talking about attribution.