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Revelations is clearly very accurate, clearly agreeing with moden science computer
models regarding global
warming predictions, what will happen when a large asteroid strikes (note the word «when») and many other
things unknown to science prior to the 21st Century.
«Climate sceptics like to criticize climate
models for getting
things wrong, and we are the first to admit they are not perfect, but what we are finding is that the mistakes are being made by those
models which predict less
warming, not those that predict more,» said Prof. Sherwood.
After a general trashing of various
things including surface observations and climate
models, he admitted that his prediction for the globally - averaged
warming (of ~ 1.5 C by 2100) is within the IPCC range... albeit at the low end.
This is because the laws of the universe state it to be impossible but I believe that there could be an alternative working
model that, in turn, could combat such
things as global
warming.
After a general trashing of various
things including surface observations and climate
models, he admitted that his prediction for the globally - averaged
warming (of ~ 1.5 C by 2100) is within the IPCC range... albeit at the low end.
I feel that the only
thing we can conclude with confidence [from the
models] is that the climate will
warm [more than it already has done] if we don't take action to reduce emissions.
Now however, there are honest unknowns with the
models and how they (slightly) mismatch histoical records... but they are accounted for in the big scheme of
things... more work needs to be done... but it does not invalidate what the
models are saying for general
warming trends... unbrella anyone?
This suggests to me that he was getting the basics more or less right, which in turn emphasises the point that the best
models and theory we have all predict and have consistently predicted the same
thing:
warming, and quite a bit of it by the end of this century if we keep dumping CO2 in the atmosphere at our current rates.
Although there is still some disagreement in the preliminary results (eg the description of polar ice caps), a lot of
things appear to be quite robust as the climate
models for instance indicate consistent patterns of surface
warming and rainfall trends: the
models tend to agree on a stronger
warming in the Arctic and stronger precipitation changes in the Topics (see crude examples for the SRES A1b scenarios given in Figures 1 & 2; Note, the degrees of freedom varies with latitude, so that the uncertainty of these estimates are greater near the poles).
In the pure radiative equilibrium, you can get it into a range where the grey
model gives you surface
warming and stratospheric cooling (that's in one of the problems), but you have to work at it a bit, and also remember to plot
things in pressure coord, not optical depth coordinates.
He went to great effort to say he honored the scientists work, but then flatly said that though the Arctic is in meltdown and its worse than
models predict, that we can not make a causal link to human global
warming pollution can not he said
things like «I wish this decision could have been otherwise» and talked about colleagues saying they were glad they weren't in his shoes.
Whether or not there is evidence
things are
warming doesn't matter to the integrity of the
model.
Indeed, throughout the Science Bulletin paper on Why
models run hot, it is self - evident not only that I and my co-authors, including Dr Soon, accept that our returning some CO2 to the atmosphere from which it originally came will cause some global
warming, but also that we are thoroughly familiar with the scientific reasons why — all other
things being equal — more CO2 in the atmosphere will cause some
warming.
If the MWP was
warm, it is no longer ok to ignore
things just because we can't
model them.
I find concerned liberals are loath to talk about how consistently wrong climate
models have been or about the «pause» in global
warming that has gone on for over fifteen years, while climate skeptics avoid discussion of
things like ocean acidification and accelerated melting in Greenland and the Arctic.
Well it depends on whether you are talking about Climate Sensitivity (Charney sensitivity... which is
modelled) or Earth System Sensitivity (where
things like ice sheet extent, vegetation cover etc are regarded as able to respond quickly to
warming).
That's one
thing, but the
model variability at a 10 - year time scale encompasses the observed surface trends, even for HadCRUT3 which probably
warms too little.
It don't mean a
thing if it ain't got that schwing, troposphere
warming that's missing, «n
models» showing 3-fold exaggerated
warming, (though no expanded wildfire - flood activity as predicted, instead greater agricultural productivity) a theory that's used for policy determining.
The
thing is that for the World Ocean to rise any significant amount then it would need all the frozen fresh water to melt, and even though the fear mongers keep saying this is happening, its not, JP Lovecraft was the flag bearer of the CAGW movement, he coined the word Gaia, he said that mankind would only be able to breed in those areas of the
warm arctic and Antarctic, the rest of us would be dead, he said that and many other scaremongering
things but close to the end of his life then he recanted it all, he said that «enough time had passed had passed for the
models to be proved correct, and that all that the passing of time had proved was that all the
models were not correct» me I think that he did not want to die with his horses still hitched to this faulty wagon.
In 50 years, even if the
warmest global climate
models were correct (even the cooler ones look too
warm right now) what will be the most important
thing to the 9 billion people on this planet?.
The whole global
warming thing is run on a political
model, not a scientific method
model.
For myself, I call into question not the «basic radiative transfer physics» but the completeness and accuracy of the atmospheric
models: all of the equations are approximations, the response of clouds to CO2 increase and
warming are not well known, yet AGW proponents act as though a slight increase in temp following a long increase in CO2 is a sure
thing.
As Robert Pindyck demonstrates, the climate
models projecting future
warming and associated environmental impacts are crippled by what we don't know about a host of
things, including — most importantly — the feedback loops that might produce catastrophic outcomes.
Doug Cotton and Prof. Johnson say that Greenhouse theory wrong [and I agree it is wrong] but accordance with this idea, a another
thing wrong about the Greenhouse theory, is that there
models divide the intensity of sunlight by 4, thereby «creating a world» unable to be to be
warm.
More of that stuff in the middle white space... — «consistent with the estimated responses» — well, it may well be, but that doesn't prove much — remember that the
models, so far as they go, do predict some
things that don't appear to be happening in the real world (tropospheric
warming, etc)-- the fact that one particular number happens to be within a (fairly large) range of predictions is not especially persuasive.
That is the problem is that the real
thing that «deniers» are saying is that the conclusion of «we are all going to die» (which is a most probable true statement, we all will eventually die just not due to Global
Warming) that is the political narrative on this «science» barring we give up our rights to energy production to a global authority is a hard pill to swallow unless you have real evidence rather than
modeled science to go off of.
Here is an example of what I'm getting at: * Climate change is a myth or conspiracy - The temperature record is phony - the consensus is just politics * Climate change is unproven - The
models are wrong - One hundred years isn't enough evidence * It's not our fault - Volcano's emit way more CO2 - It could be natural variation * A
warmer climate is nothing to worry about - It was
warmer in the middle ages - A
warmer climate is a good
thing * Mitigation will destroy the economy - We don't know enough to act - Reducing fossil fuel will destroy us * It's too late or someone else's problem - Kyoto is too little too late - The US absorbs more CO2 than it emits This is very rough example, but if you think it is headed in the right direction, I'd be happy to go through your guide in more detail and come up with something concrete - just give me the word.
So we are left wondering — if the data we have is good for one
thing and it shows that cloud changes dominate — if the simple
model of radiative forcing and
warming is all there is.
So some computer
models say that small
warming is a good
thing.
It's a shame that Global Climate
Modelling has been caught up in the Global
Warming via CO2
thing because the
model described is of great interest and value just on its own even without the millstone of CO2 having to be carried along with it.
Even though all of the computer
models predicted
warming,
warming, and more
warming, they now claim the silliest
things like, «The cooling is caused by
warming!»
Now forced to explain the
warming hiatus, Trenberth has flipped flopped about the PDO's importance writing «One of the
things emerging from several lines is that the IPCC has not paid enough attention to natural variability, on several time scales,» «especially El Niños and La Niñas, the Pacific Ocean phenomena that are not yet captured by climate
models, and the longer term Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) which have cycle lengths of about 60 years.»
I personally believe that IPCC will ignore the actual lack of
warming (i.e. cooling) and stick with its exaggerated forecasts in the hopes that
things will turn around again until it becomes painfully obvious that these are unrealistic and that the IPCC
models have lost all credibility.
How about this logic... if the ocean is an enormous heat sink and ate their
warming, and this was not anticipated or built into the
models AT ALL, then the
models are all cr @p, the huge sensitivity to C02 (amplification) is in the same crock of poo (i.e. the ocean provides damping and there is no amplification), and there really is no such
thing as CAGW... there's only 134 pathetic excuses for climate
models that are all wrong because the scientists didn't consider that 75 - ish percent of the globe was covered with water.
John Christy has been saying a number of
things, notably that the
model simulations
warm faster than the observations.
«Theory and
models show the AMOC weakens when there is
warming and increased input of freshwater, and these are both
things being observed as part of global
warming,» Thornalley said.
As for lying, I have observed many scientists seem to have no difficulty with lying when they connect, without a shred of evidence, supportive
modeling or any data or often even any theory such
things as extreme weather is getting worse or is linked to CO2, wet areas will get wetter and dry areas will get drier, that the ocean swallowed the «missing heat», using a proxy upside down doesn't matter, the
models are still adequate for policy even after such a huge divergence from reality, coral die - back is due to manmade
warming rather than fishing, all
warming must be bad rather than beyond a certain threshold, etc, etc, etc..
But one
thing climate scientists agree on — if global
warming is caused by CO-2 emissions then the CO-2 will leave a distinct signature their computer
models predict a big red hotspot above the equator.
Carbon doesn't seem to have driven temperaturs before; probably isn't doing it now;
things are not getting
warmer and computer
models can't predict the weather.
I tend to look at
things through what I hope is a prisim of common sense, and it seems to me that the central issues is not whether the lack of
warming is statistically significant, but that the
models on which this whole
thing is predicated have proven themselves to be so woefully wrong.
And the bizarre
thing is that ipcc
models actually need clouds to cause net
warming to work.
The IPCC * itself * acknowledges that there has been no such
warming now for the last 16 - 17 years; that no dramatic imminent change is seen to that for the next couple of years at least; that the previous spell of 15 years or so was precisely the duration of
warming that underlay so much of the evidence cited for its alarms of the long and terrible global trend if forecast; that not a single
model the IPCC had or has seems to have come even close to predicting what we've now seen; that the IPCC can only suggest possible explanations for all this so logically meaning it can have no reason to believe that whatever is causing it isn't going to continue forever; that more and more studies are coming in attributing global temperatures not to CO2 but instead other
things such as solar fluctuations; that a number of predictions are now coming in that in fact say we are now in for a lengthy period of * cooling.
As a result, IPCC climate
models incorporate the greenhouse effect into heir code and lts use leads to such
things as prediction of a non-existent
warm spot at ten kilometer height.
Like Prof Curry, Prof Jones also admitted that the climate
models were imperfect: «We don't fully understand how to input
things like changes in the oceans, and because we don't fully understand it you could say that natural variability is now working to suppress the
warming.
So I will be interested to hear your take on whether this sort of
thing is now justified in light of «Broad range of 2050
warming from an observationally constrained large climate
model ensemble» Rowlands et al 2012 Or whether you think there are major problems with that paper (whether along the lines expressed here or different problems).
A funny
thing happened when they first started running climate
models with high CO2 sensitivities in them against history: The
models grossly over-predicted historic
warming.
I think that in this thread statisticians are aiming at the same
thing as climatologist: to set up a
model for the unperturbed system and test if the recent
warming is unusual or not.