Some players have complained the pitch is slow and due to its size, I think we need to play
a more counter attacking game.
We played extremely deep against city so you could argue we've adopted
a more counter attacking philosophy away at bigger teams.
Is that why Wenger and Arsenal played
more counter attacking football against Chelsea rather than keep possesion and press higher and higher up and eventually get caught out on a counter break?
I think that Wenger has already started to take this on board and set Arsenal up to be
more counter attacking ourselves at times, but will Euro 2016 make the Frenchman even more ready to change the tactics he has relied on for so long?
We have many choices up in attack and just depends if we want to play
more counter attacking or full possession.
I don't care that we do not have 70 % possession anymore, we are still playing good football, in fact I find out
more counter attacking game more enjoyable to watch and most importantly we are getting the 3 points!
I understand he's trying to play
more counter attacking football especially since PSG's full back like to push up a lot but will this work out?
I reckon Giroud could be a world class player playing just behind a clinical speedster with
a more counter attacking style.
back during autumn it looked like we were becoming
a more counter attacking team as well, but that faded away during christmas and new years and now we're back to that game style of «Their defense's ability to stay sharp throughout the game and their ability to counter in a goal determines the outcome of this game» which we could just nickname Wengerball.
For example, against Pullis type teams we may want Ramsey who will make the penetrating late runs into the box against a team that sits back and defends, we may want to start with Ramsey against a team like Chelsea to get the 1st goal but then Coquelin coming on to sit and defend while relying on long passes from Xhaka and the threat from our tank Seo and Bellerin / Ox...
More counter attacking.
@ Robin VanPayslip what if we try it and it works wonders... Our squad would certainly be well utilized with it, we will get
more counter attack goals coming in — Right now our counters fall in the way side and we would have 3 guys — not two to meet the opponents counters... and at least two or three players in every spot in the field...
I know we're playing at home, but I just know that if we adopt Wenger's usual open tactics we'll get caught on the break by Utd, after all they have scored
more counter attack goals against us over the years than I care to think about and with the likes of Mata, Rooney, Martial and Memphis I would urge caution in our approach.
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With the likes of Zaha (who I rate), they will pose
more of threat than WBA on the
counter attack.
With Crystal Palace in good confidence and playing at home, they are likely to be
more adventurous than West Ham were and that should bring our
counter attacking more into play.
We will never know, of course, but there is a good argument that with one of those first choice players available, Arsenal would have played better throughout and would certainly have enjoyed
more possession and control and would probably have held on for the win or even increased our lead on the
counter attack.
Count Draxler will become even
more injury prone at Arsenal and if Walcott does leave in the summer, I'm pretty sure that he will shine as a striker, especially at a club that plays the long ball
counter —
attacking system!
after our loss to everton i'm
more confident now that we're going to win against man city we are going to want to bounce back and city missing key players like aguero, fernandinho, gundogan is a good time to play them and i want yaya toure to play we know that defensively he is useless so we can hit them on the
counter attack!!
All this means that Arsenal can afford to be a bit
more adventurous than we would against a side that was hurting teams regularly on the
counter attack.
There is a case that when there is a three man mature defense, it tends to be
more solid than the 4 man defense where the full backs have to overlap and often than not are found in
attack leaving a thin defense at the back quickly exposed in a
counter attack.
With Dybala & Costa, while
attacking, their wingers would've had
more spaces when they
counter us.
He's
more suited to
counter attacking teams which Arsenal isn't.
We can sit deeper and be
more compact and defensively minded, while Ranieri's team will have to be
more proative instead of soaking up pressure before launching a Vardy led
counter attack.
I think this is
more evident against the mid table and lower teams where we trip bi becasue we get complacent and non stop
attack which allows them to
counter attack and score.
Obviously if we do score the first goal then that will make them
more edgier and maybe they will try to
attack more rather than just defend, Which would make it easier for us to
counter attack them.
Ramsey has an engine room quite like that which Vieira had, so an arrangement for a super
attacking front will not inhibit Ramsey from getting the goals as he still will make these runs, but they will be less frequent as he would need to concentrate
more in stopping
attacks by the opponent and transforming the defense into
counter attacks.
When we are playing the bigger boys, we have to be
more cautious and sit back
more than we usually do i think this line up is good as we can also
attack them with pace and
counter attack and we can even hold on to the ball
more if we need to.
Arsenal are better off not having too much possession in order to win
more, against Man United we must let them have the ball and play on the
counter attack!
When one analyzes the 4 games in which the team conceded three or
more goals, a number of factors come into play:
attacking players losing balls in our defensive third,
attacking players not committing fouls when they lose the ball to stop
counters,
attacking players not tracking back to defend, and
attacking players lacking a defensive mindset..
Once we get the lead, Ramsey needs to sit back a bit
more and put
counter attacking ahead of
attacking.
Now we just pass side to side slowly with no intent even tho we have an amazing
counter attacking team with pace which would be
more effective rather them this crap last 3seasons
I have noticed a
more defending style with less possession (tiki taka) and
counter attack with fast wingers.
Totally agree with you however there are one or two teams in EPL that Gabriel will be
more suited for those teams with fast
counter attacks but with not much technical abilities
You could say if we had sat back properly yesterday with everyone getting back behind the ball leaving four forwards to
counter attack at good moments we would have been
more comfortable.
We have become
more defensive and
counter attacking.
The intrusion of Ospina, Belerin AND cOQUELIN TRANFORMED THE TEAM the injury of Wilshere and Ramsey forcing wenger to play Cazorla and Ozil in the middle and no
more on the wings a
more defensive -
counter attack style toThe return of a in form Giroud The aquisition Of Gabriel I am sure that if we had been playing this team, we are now and this way, we would be right with Chelsea at the top.
The only chance to win this game is going to score
more then Newcastle as we are not in shape to stop them scoring should our
attacking players be careless in possession and allow a
counter we have little chance to stop them.
I understand its not all about running and part of me seems to think his attributes are better suited to a
counter attacking team, but watching santi play it seems like he can provide the passes mesut can and offers
more defensively.
barcelona are
more geared to
counter attack at pace this season and I don't think turan is quick enough to take a place on either wing but then again I could be wrong.
Arsenal's system can be fluid as well, but when the gameplay is completely different with arsenal being a
more possessive side while madrid being a
more direct,
counter attacking side.
Although Flamini is not the greatest player on the ball, his presence in the midfield allows the other midfielders
more freedom to commit to the
attacks while at the same time not exposing us on the
counter.
We're
more likely to see Mourinho's standard XI as he'll try to press high to rob us of te ball in high areas or Fabregas moving to no. 10 to put Ramires alongside Matic to hinder the
counter attack
Four at the back often counts for two on the bustle of the game which often includes
counter attacks that Arsenal become
more susceptible as the fullbacks move forward to help out in the wing duties as the match proceeds.
Can't afford to lose
more points from a
counter attack as awful defending.
You know know he means business, When Arsene signed Xhaka (long ball master) and now vardy (
counter attacking wizard) on top of Ozil and Alexis, Change of tactics of curse, with those in the line up I expect us to play faster and
more direct, and I also expect us to lick less goals.
It could suit us to a certain extent as Everton won't be able to exploit our possession game as much and we can focus
more on
counter attacking with mobile players.
In the past, the
more we
attack, the
more open we are to
counter attack.
More recently, it has been a case of incompetence in the defensive side of our game, we've tried to take the game to Chelsea and go guns blazing which put us at danger every time we lost the ball on the
counter attack especially as we used to play a ridiculously high line.
If we had a
more typical DM instead of Arteta, we would be able to have
more bodies going forward in
attack and
more chance of scoring, especially on the
counter.
It would have been a far
more direct approach and it would have been far easier to
attack on the
counter with a greater breadth of field to play the ball into instead of a central ball first then a ping out wide.