Why not use him for
more deep balls?
Not exact matches
Coquelin does nt contribute much to attack at all, though he did start to try
more adventurous
deep balls later on in the season which was nice to see.
The players stop dropping back when it is sailing
deep and when you watch Cech he has
MORE than enough time to get in front of Kayoute and catch the
ball, let alone punch it.
Look at his game — he has to drop down
deep more times than not to collect the
ball and bring it forward.
I would be a lot
more worried about Foles getting picked off trying to throw something relatively short, rather than on on of his
deep balls anyway.
Jack has tried from
deep but not been the AM and
more of a
deeper player who carries the
ball forward.
Although Wilshere has not nailed down a regular position in his career so far, playing both as an attacking midfielder, either centrally or on either flank, as well as a
more defensive - minded player, it appears that he wants to work on becoming
more of a
deep - lying
ball player in the Alonso or Pirlo mould.
Ozil should start on the bench simply because caz and ramsey offer a bit
more defensively, and chelsea's back line is very
deep, so there is no real space for ozil to play the through
ball.
What amazed me is that after Özil goal our team collectively relaxed on the defensive end and was happy to sat so
deep as if we were in the late stage of the game... we should have better mixed up our game plan sitting
deep to defend in a
more compact way is good but when you have the
ball you must take good care of it and find teammates in good positions quickly... both Cazorla and Ramsey were poor and I do feel that they both should've been subbed of early for Rosicky and Walcott!
Xhaka — paid $ 3 million
more for him than Kante was sold for... another of the many ridiculous Wenger sanctioned moves... like some of his skills, especially his long -
ball potential but he's looked a shadow of his Swiss National team self and that really worries me... too slow and can't seem to master the timing needed to tackle in the open field... this might have something to do with the lack of leadership and coaching on this team, made
more obvious by the fact that when he plays with Coquelin he plays in a
deeper role (WTF???)
He's instructed by Wenger to run at the defence and draw the fouls in whereas for England, he's instructed to play
deeper and ping the
balls around which is much
more productive way for him to play, yes he's injury prone and it frustrates me that he, among the rest of our players, is delicate.
Sanchez on the right further from the goal with enough space to explode forward in quick attack, Cazorla on the opposite side with room to man the Central Midfield like he has always done, opposite action from Sanchez... the two can interchange wings as they are both very apt from both wings, with a telepathic understanding with Sanchez
more amenable to move the
ball forward from the
deep but Cazorla
more amenable to defend from the
deep.
Let's face it goalkeepers tend to march to the beat of a different drum and Szczesny certainly fell into that category, but most of his antics were relatively harmless and simply reflected a certain level of immaturity that isn't uncommon for someone thrust into the limelight at such a young age... lord knows we've seen that happen with numerous players throughout the years and very few were ever banished for such behaviour... the only on - field action that drove me crazy was his inability to take a
deep breath and not try to rush the play with an ill - timed throw at certain points in the game when common sense suggested holding the
ball and slowing things down... the fact that he continued to do this probably had a lot to do with the glaring lack of coaching time spent with the goalkeepers... ultimately he made the fateful decision to take his frustrations out into the public sphere and paid dearly for it... in the end, his services were wanted by several of the best Italian squads, which is significant considering the historical importance placed on the defensive side of the
ball in Serie A... all I know is that if someone asked me to pick the most athletically gifted goalkeeper we have had in our squad since the arrival of Wenger, without hesitation, he would be my pick and for that reason his departure is
more than a little disappointing... what else is new though
Last season saw Arsene change it up a bit (e.g Vs City & Liverpool) where he was a bit
more cautious, sitting
more deep and having
more men behind the
ball trying to put pressure on the opposition — sometimes this was successful, sometimes not, but it certainly reduced the amount of hammerings we got.
He was making constant runs off the
ball to push the defence
deeper and ensure Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Ox and Coquelin all got
more space and time on the
ball.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the
ball quickly from
deep - lying position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through
balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the
ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the
more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the
ball too long, gives the
ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long
ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a
more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the
ball too long and he will give the
ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
Playing
deep in the heart of the Porto midfield, Neves controls the pace of the game with an almost Pirloesque ease, very rarely taking
more than a touch before the
ball is moved on to a teammate.
My point for the
deep IPs is that better throws take that
ball out of harms way and make the play
more favorable to the offense.
I feel you are a bit harsh on Wilshere, he is willing to stay back
more than Rambo and he is better at carrying the
ball out from
deep.
He has been playing
deeper than usual and has been given
more defensive responsibilities and is pressing
more in the second line than the back line to win the
ball back and start attacks.
His
deep ball definitely improved as he got
more time with AJ and Smith.
Elneny in my opinion tend to have
more control of the offensive flow in a game, he follows the
ball all around the pitch, I would consider him a
deep lying playmaker with defensive skills.
We have relied
more on Xhaka who is
more adept at spraying the
balls from his
deep laying position in the midfield and when there is need to break up play, at times he allows it to tarry too long giving him the need to achieve same with overly dramatic tackles that end up with an equally dramatic red flash before his face.
They'll sit
deeper, restrict space and give us
more time on the
ball.
Taggart was a Jim Harbaugh disciple - think Stanford or the 49ers (less Colin Kaepernick,
more Alex Smith)- who used the power run to set up play action to tight ends and the occasional
deep ball on constraint plays.
Navas has started in fine form for City this term and is a similar style of player, offering a little
more in the way of pace and directness, which could be important in a Barcelona side full of playmakers who prefer to get the
ball in
deep areas to link up play.
At times the team didn't obsess with possession and were happy to sit
deeper, at times we pressed high and quick, the counter attacking improved significantly and we recycled the
ball far
more decisively.
However he could be a top
Deep Lying Playmaker which is
more of the role he has been doing, he has the STR to hold players off when he has the
ball and he has a wide passing range with a respectable pass completion.
The argument is our DM needs to be better at passing the
ball, that means he needs to have the eye (and
more importantly the ability) to pick out our attacking players between the line of midfield as opposed to recycling possession to CB's and FB's or having an attacking player come
deep.
He is
more suited to games where we can sit back and defend
deep — as soon as we push up the
ball behind becomes a big issue.
why do we never look at the opposition and assess where the threat comes from and set up accordingly, stoke plays
deep with direct
balls to creative players, liverpool plays high press counter attacking football why arent we
more fluid based on the team we face?
Ramsey has had one good season for us since his horrible injury, he needlessly gives the
ball away much too often and his finishing is even worse than Giroud's... once again we have fallen in love with the idea of what could have been... Ramsey has only scored 2 meaningful goals in his entire Arsenal tenure: one in Turkey and the other in last year's FA Cup, which is not near enough to make him a centerpiece of this offence... likewise simply his presence on the team sheet has led Wenger into making horrible tactical blunders because he will force Ramsey into the lineup even when it doesn't make sense... just think of all those games when Ramsey was played out wide on the right, which forced the RB to come up into the play far
more often, and
deeper, because Ramsey invariably would find himself in a
more central position leaving us far
more vulnerable to the counterattack..
Xhaka, who I like, or at least I like the Xhaka who plays for the Swiss national squad, has shown to be in way over his head in the premiership... of course he showed late in the year that he can stretch the field with the long
ball but our squad isn't really set - up for that style of play... most of his long passes are in the air not on the ground and our squad without Giroud, which should have been sold the minute the transfer window officially opened, is one of the smallest in England... we need someone who can pick out the runs of our forwards in the lanes and who is fast enough to come forward into space without conceding his defensive responsibilities... we rarely see him shoot or even be in a position on the field to do so, we rarely, if ever, see him used for set pieces and it appears that the only person at the club who has ever coached him up when it comes to tackling is Coq, which explains his atrocious disciplinary record... maybe it's me but didn't you see him coming in and contributing
more from an offensive perspective, with his killer left foot, than a
deep - lying midfielder... if that wasn't the case we are the stupidest team alive for taking him over Kante
More significant than the extra fly
balls are their outcomes: After a career in which about one in nine of his flies went for homers, Bautista is going
deep on one in five.
If Giroud starts then I will bet that Chelsea will play a higher def line until they can get a goal and squash out the space for our game changers to make much of an impact, how - ever I feel
more confident that Theo will at least cause Chelsea to defend
deeper and as such, force Chelsea to play with gaps between their def and mid or play a LOT of players behind the
ball and try to hit us on the counter.
A Tom Brady incompletion on first down, followed by a three - yard run by BenJarvus Green Ellis on second down and an incomplete
deep ball on third down led to Zoltan Mesko's second punt of the night, a 38 - yarder to pin the Broncos on their 11,
more difficult starting position for Tim Tebow and the boys as they try to rally and close the 21 - 7 deficit with less than five minutes on the clock
The 22 - year - old has shown that he is
more than a goal scorer, works really hard to retrieve the
ball back when his side loses it, offers
more in the
deep areas and plays his role when defending from a set - piece.
OG holds up the
ball, is an excellent target man, and brilliant aerially, whereas Alexis can shoot on goal from all distances and angles, and is
more nimble, and sees
more opportunities — maybe why he is better coming in from a little
deeper than Giroud.
You can understand why — he has raw pace to burn and a decent cross on him — but when you consider his own admission that he «prefers the
ball to feet,» and the way he's capable of driving a team forward from
deeper areas of the pitch, you have to wonder why Wenger didn't give him
more chances.
They had chances and couldn't convert, we had fewer and took 2 of it, Sanogo had a good game, needs a lil
more run in the side, could be a great alternative to giroud, loved his diagonal runs, which i haven't seen us do for a while, drew defenders away from our midfielders, probablythe reason ozil had a good game, i mean, Giroud loves to come in
deep to get the
ball, i don't see the need for that, his link up play is not so good, neither can he dribble, like say a suarez or sturridge, so playing to ones strenght is better atimes, just stick to what you do best!
The worrying bit here is, of course, the absence of Pjanic, making the play of Nainggolan and / or Strootman even
more important — Perotti can only pick up the
ball so
deep and still have a chance to exploit the defense.
Cleverley has made zero accurate through
balls all season — this could be understood if you were the
deepest lying defensive midfielder in the world but he's not, he's a general central midfielder by trade and you could argue he's meant to be
more offensive than Michael Carrick.
Van Gaal, on the other hand, cleverly sees that his star player needs space to manoeuvre and by playing a
deeper midfield and a
more direct style it allows him the opportunity to pick up the
ball and drive at the opposition defence.
After some time Messi got frustrated and came
deeper in search of
more time on the
ball.
He sees
more of the
ball in a
deeper role, and is better at using it to put Liverpool on the front foot.
Suso was largely ineffective when played in the much talked about false nine role, but when he was allowed to drift
deeper and
more centrally, we saw the talent he possesses on the
ball and his ability to play in his team - mates.
This means Hoolahan takes up
more deeper, central positions, and plays frequent
balls to the wings to start attacks, rather than being the focus of those attacks himself.
Elneny may not quite fit the profile of the diminutive Spanish
ball - player who usually takes on the job of masterminding Arsenal's midfield play from
deep but against Spurs he showed why he was
more than just the best option at hand but perhaps exactly the kind of Arteta successor that fans have been calling for.
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Imagine what he could do in similar circumstances, with the likes of Ander Herrera running on from
deep to support his attempts to bring anarchy into the final third, Martial feeding off the chaos created by his work on and off the
ball and Juan Mata slipping through the cracks into
more central positions to dictate play.