This is a young man trying to learn his trade, playing 1st team is already to much for him, what
more playing out of position?
Not exact matches
First,
out of any 1,000 people, 998 will be able to find
positions more extreme than their own on both sides
of any issue: it's a game nearly anyone can
play.
Watermark Funds Management's Joshua Ross was one investor who identified the potential problems
more than a year ago, though the fund unwound its short
position because
of concerns the Murray Goulburn price would defy fundamentals in the face
of strong dairy thematics
playing out in stocks such as Bellamy's and Bega.
Truth is Le Fraud
plays him
out of position, could be the cause, but OZIL we really expect
more from you upon your arrival.............
While there is a lack
of depth behind him with Ainsley Maitland - Niles
played out of position in his absence, it arguably shouldn't be seen as a priority for the Gunners with Mkhitaryan the
more important addition to help fill the void left behind by Sanchez in the final third.
+ wenger
out is
more than just lack
of spending; its not studying the opposition, not rotating players, not addressing why we have so much
more injuries than others, not subbing early enough to give incoming players a chance to influence the game, not
playing players in their best
positions. . . .
Santi is also very adept at
playing in that
position but in my opinion, I feel the team can get
more out of Ramsey when he's
playing there.
Wenger has no tactics,
plays his favourite players over better players, gives long term contracts to average and injury prone players, hates strong physical players,
plays players
out of position, always looking for excuse like refrees and saying other teams
played more in pre season, does nt spend money on players required like if we need strikers he will buy CAM, waits for other teams to buy top players and signs average on deadline day, calls accident when we lose, talks cohesion and mental strength when we beat terrible teams and win mickey mouse trophy like Asia cup and community shield.
Not spending when he should have & also
playing players
out of position for starters diaby / santos / park / arshavin / squallaci / Silvestre his 30 + policy surely pires / viera / gilberto could have
played for us
more & allowing cashley to leave.
Alexis came with a good spirit, seing Ozil on board, thinking a team would be built around them but year after year, it is no top class addition with a guessing game plan, weakness all over the pitch, players
out of position, a team scared to
play and lost as manager... Sanchez then started to ask
more money, we said no as to Ozil; waiting 6 month later to be on last year contract... The all management is nuts and Alexis or any players try until they get fed up, Ozil
plays to get fit for wrld cup and his value back...
I only wish to focus on those who can
play in the CF
position (as that's what everyone's getting bent
out of shape about) but it is clear we have wide players who can score and we have players who can do so from midfield, some
of whom are still developing — like Wilshere, Ramsay, the Ox — and from whom most
of expect to see
more and
more this season.
(3) formation flexibility — it took 20 years for Wenger to return to a back 3 and now he can't seem to choose anything but that formation... the teams in the premiership and those we could face in the Europa will present vastly different tactics and we need to have a manager who can prepare this squad for this eventuality and have the fortitude to make the necessary adjustments throughout the season... I have seen nothing in the past 6 - 7 years to suggest that he is the man to take on this challenge... I can't even remember when he changed formations when he would replace a small, pacy striker, like during the Walcott experiment, with the lumbering Giroud...
of course this is exactly why there is no other manager in the world that
plays more players
out of their natural
positions (square peg in a round hole)
but a t some point he lost it, and is not because
of his stinginess to buy players, our core is good and has been for sometime now, his biggest problem was adaptation, change to the new EPL, his philosophy dating back 20 years does not work anymore and he knows it, because
of this his biggest flaw all others came
out to light, lack
of rotation
of his players favoring some over others, stubbornness that applies to his transfer policy buying for the future just as he had 20
more years ahead, players
playing out of their natural
positions, ARSENAL FLOPS who knows under other Managers they could have been great, for some reason they were signed in the first place, they must had some talent, best example is Campbell....
If we start this season with those two in our starting 11 it will be a clear sign from this organization that nothing has changed and that we will never get it right until both Kroenke and Wenger are gone... neither one
of these players should still be with our club at this point because they represent the settling half - measures that have plagued this team for a number
of years... this is what I call the «no man's land»
of the soccer world, where teams don't have enough talented young players, unlike a Monaco or Dortmund, because they have lost the plot from an organizational standpoint... they are so reliant on one individual to run the whole operation that their once relevant scouting department has become so antiquated that it can no longer find those hidden gems it once had... furthermore, when you leave all decision - making to a manager who despises any dissenting opinions, your management team becomes little
more than a stagnant group
of «yes men» and no new ideas emerge... so instead
of developing a team with the qualities necessary to excel in a particular system, you continually make half - brain purchases year after year to stifle dissent from the ticket - buying public, then try desperately to finagle together a lineup regardless
of what would make positional sense... have you ever heard
of a team who
plays players
out of position so often...
of course not because that manager would likely be fired and never work for a team
of any consequence ever again
No to Sterling, get the best
out of the Alexis deal, and use that money, and
more if needed, to get draxler, offer him 250 a week, since we can't offer him champions league football, but my problem is that whoever we sign, wenger will still
play them
out of position..
It's no secrete we need a man with pace to
play in between and run off the defenders making use
of our world class A / M (ozil / Santi) if I look who us available in the striker
position the one that stands
out is lacazette, he has similar qualities to remy, but has a few
more tricks..
El Neny or Xhaka (did not
play over the weekend) would have made much much
more out of those
positions.
Comparing him to the arguably
more talented Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Anthony Martial, who
play in similar
positions but who have been in and
out of the side due to inconsistency, Neville said he prefers Lingard because he truly knows what it means to
play for United.
Want to hear from all those arse licking football idiots drooling away on this website over a bunch
of friendly victories... So I'll say it again mert is a liability Ramsey and giroud are good bench players and we need a world class dm... Oh and a new manager... Endlessly
playing out of position... Same shit year in year
out with this guy it really is... Even if we win if this guy thinks he has a winning team he is even
more dillusional than I though and I wanted him carried off to funny farm 5 years ago
They could help us
more by taking walcott and switch Lewandowski to us, and we'll give them Ramsey for Alaba... thumb me down all you want but i ai nt saying this cus
of the goal he scored, he's the type
of player we need, bro can
play over 5
positions qnd with the way our players get injured easily, Alaba will come
out handy add to that, he's world class so what else is remaining??
its not what these guys are used to they have
played with football greats like ronaldo and messi and you ask them to perform with players like ox and welback we should change the way we think just sell these midocre players that we keep on feeding sell them
out and one
more thing i swear if even if i had a chance to
play this match on fifa i would never dare to
play players
out of position for fuck sake we already lost against stoke due to
out of position defenders what is wrong with wenger
Crazy to
play players
out of position and as you rightly say, this often happens to young players who would otherwise improve
more quickly
played in their natural
position.
So unless you conjure up a new formation or
play even
more players
out of position then either Ramsey or Ozil are benched to make way for Fabregas.
In the midfield, (including RWB & LWB) we have a whole bunch
of tweeners... none offer the full package, none make sense in our manager's current favourite formation, except for Sead on the left and Ox on the right, and all
of them have never shown any consistency for
more than a heartbeat... Sead, who I'm including in this category because
of our present formation, looks like a positive addition, minus his occasional brain farts, but I would rather see what he could do in a back 4 before making my mind up... Ox, who has never
played better, which isn't saying much considering his largely underwhelming
play in previous seasons, seems to have found a home in this new formation; unfortunately, can we really expect this oft - injured player to handle the taxing duties that come with said
position over the long haul, not to mention, it looks like he has no intention
of staying... Ramsey has relied on the empathy that stems from his gruesome injury years ago and the excitement that was generated a few years back when he finally seemed to put in altogether, but on the whole he has been a big disappointment (neither he nor the Ox have scored enough to warrant a regular spot)... Wiltshire should be put on a weekly contract then
played until he suffers his first injury, if and when that occurs he should be shipped -
out and no one should very be allowed to say his name on club grounds ever again... Elnehy & Coq are average players who couldn't make any
of the top 7 teams currently in the EPL... both have showed some great energy on the pitch, but neither are top quality and no good team can afford to have that many average players on their bench
playing the same
position, especially with Coq's injury history / discipline concerns and Elheny's headless chicken tendencies... as for Xhaka, his tenure here so far has been incredibly underwhelming... we know he has some skills to provide the long ball but his defensive work is piss poor and he gives the ball away too cheaply and far too often... finally, the enigma himself, Ozil, so much skill with his left foot but his presence has been
more frustrating than uplifting... in many respects his failure has been directly related to the failure
of this club to provide him with the necessary players up front, minus Sanchez
of course, and unless something drastic happens very soon his legacy will be largely a negative one (much like Wenger's)
Some fans seem to view «hold - up»
play as a dirty word, but buying an extra few seconds for supporting runners (which in Sanchez, it's hard to ask for much
more) and dragging a CB
out of position Giroud does very, very well.
In the middle we need reinforcement.For the 3
positions we have 6players (Coquelin, Xhaka, Iwobi, Ramsey, Elneny and Ozil); but at the moment as normal we have 3
of them injured; so one
more out and we finish and still no one game
played.
Why
play players
out of position, chamberlains contribution was much
more better than giroud for 70 mins wenger u deluded old fart
So the only major stat Coutinho wins on is Duels... and Rambo
plays out of position and against wingers and defenders
more then against CMs.
1, When Chelsea defend free kick they don't try to
play offside in any
of the free kicks they defend and hold a
more deeper
position than we did for the first goal, so Cech didn't need to come
out in Chelsea but thought he might need to on Sunday, obviously wrong choice.
Klopp
plays players
out of position even
more so then Wenger.
The sad thing is is that we shall only get a few
more years
out of Monreal at his highest ability, before age starts to
play a part on his style
of play, at which point Arsenal will have to consider whether Gibbs (if he's still with us) is ready to retake his
position, or if a new player is needed.
There will be lots
of emotional comments on here tonight but I for one am fed up with le fraud lying and misleading us year after year.im fed
of with his excuses and even
more fed up with him
playing players
out of position and not buying players to cover obvious gaps in the squad.Wenger O
out of position and not buying players to cover obvious gaps in the squad.Wenger
OutOut!
Apart from failure to sign
more players the major problem is wenger
playing players
out of position.
why was Sead not
playing... if he's not better than the little engine that couldn't at left - back or Bellerin
playing out of position, why did we get him in the first place... his size would have provided some much needed muscle against an undersized Liverpool front line while his speed would have made those in wide
positions play more honestly... I still believe that Wenger was once again punishing the fans for not being satisfied with what had transpired so far in the current window... no matter what the reasons, the decision was indicative
of the ineptitude
of this manager against top ranked opponents
It has to be something else and IMO is that I've noticed Wenger has made a LOT
of decisions in the past few seasons that are nothing
more than deflating and soul sucking to players who want to fight for a place... he sticks with players when they are
out of form, benches players when they are
playing well, makes substitutions that make no sense,
plays players
out of position, does not show any type
of rapport with his team when things are not going well.
I agree but he was still used wrongly, demotivated by being
played out of his proper
position and rightly, having
more ambition than talent, keen to
play under a proper manager, as he now is.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety
of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style
of play has become a shadow
of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and
play» mentality where players
play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying
position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide
positions, without the aid
of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance
play quickly
out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs
out wide, we've seen pace from the likes
of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted
play of Monreal, but none
of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was
playing and his ratio
of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the
more confident Xhaka I watched
played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball
play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part
of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he
played with Coq Wenger always seemed to
play Francis in a
more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part
of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature
of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player
of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been
played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front
of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that,
of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one
of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back
position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one
of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already
of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs
of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack
of mobility is an albatross around the necks
of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because
of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
I think some
of the youngsters and backups could flourish
more easily if Arsene would give them minimal roles that they could grow from instead
of playing them in cup games with a team full
of backups who are all struggling to find a role in Arsene's system and sometimes are outright
played out of position.
For your info I am London based and do have a season ticket, not sure how that's relevant to Wenger spending money on exceptional players, to be honest I think
playing players
out of position, very rarely
playing your best goalscorer for ninety minutes, predictable tactics, failing to sign up two
of your best players to new deals and many many
more failings helps our opponents far
more than any Wenger
out banner or protest.
YOU REALLY SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO BUY INTO WENGERS SILLY IDEA
OF PLAYERS LEARNING
MORE BY
PLAYING OUT OF POSITION.
He said in the Standard: «At the moment, the general dynamic at Arsenal is that we have got a lot
of central midfielders who are
more specialists in that
position and
out of that group
of players, if you were going to put me in there, I'd be the one who stood
out as someone who could
play on the wing,»
In arsenal under wenger we have excuses for everything: excuses for -
playing players
out of position, for trusting stubborn manager, benching fit walcott, trophy drought, highest ticket prices, losing to mourihno, excuses for players burnout.If sanchez gets long term injury by Any chance forget even that fourth trophy.I stand by what henry said 4
more players
I would
play chambers in dm
position alongside ramsey with ozil having free role behind sanchez and ox on right that gives us plenty
of pace and will allow ozil to get on the ball
more and produce his magic passes he will be much
more influential then stuck
out on the wing espec as he is poor at tracking back so lets
play to his strengths that will get the best
out of him and in turn create
more chances for forwards!
Wenger is
playing Ozil
out of position for wilshere, that I understand but Carzola would have been
more effective on the left flank, ozil on the bench if Jack has to
play.
I agree with you that AW has done some astounding things for the club, but he has also made some reall balls ups and week in week
out it seems he is not able to offer up a tactical plan B or utilise key players in key
positions against the relevant sides we
play, (not starting with Rosicky and Walcott on Saturday was one such instance) I realise that no team wins all their games and I know that we have been under the cosh for quiet a few years now, but what annoys me
more than anything else is the lack
of Visible ambition, we spent three weeks messing around with Beliek and only just managed to get Paulista who was an uncertainty due to a work visa.
Wenger lost the plot when he brought in Giroud... what about the beautiful game involves having a lumbering striker who's main attribute is holding up
play... our success with Wenger, and even before, came with pace and clinical striking up front, having a boss in the midfield and having physically imposing CBs... what about Wright, Bergkamp, Anelka, Henry or RVP remind anyone
of Giroud (minus the left foot
of course)... the formula was broken, which didn't have to be the end
of our success, but when you adopt half - measures you can't expect things just to work themselves
out on their own... at the very least Wenger should have brought in some wingers that can consistently cross the ball and then spend significantly
more time addressing our lack
of success with set pieces... ultimately this is why we continued to struggle with consistency and continued to constantly
play people in the wrong
positions
Nothing like one underachiever blowing smoke up the ass
of another... we know that Ozil has some incredible technical gifts, but to be considered the best you have to bring
more than just assists to the table... for me, a top player has to possess a
more well - rounded game, which doesn't mean they need to be a beast on both ends
of the pitch, but they must have the ability to take their game to another level when it matters most... although he amassed some record - like stats early on, it set the bar too high, so when people expected him to duplicate those numbers each year the pressure seemed to get the best
of our soft - spoken star... obviously that's not an excuse for what has happened in the meantime, but it's important to make note
of a few things: (1) his best year was a transition year for many
of the traditionally dominant teams in the EPL, so that clearly made the numbers appear better than they actually were and (2) Wenger's system, or lack thereof, didn't do him any favours; by
playing him
out of position and by not acquiring world - class striker and / or right - side forward that would best fit an Ozil - centered offensive scheme certainly hurt his chances to repeat his earlier peformances, (3) the loss
of Cazorla, who took a lot
of pressure off Ozil in the midfield and was highly efficient when it came to getting him the ball in space, negatively impacted his effectiveness and (4) he likewise missed a good chunk
of games and frankly never looked himself when he eventually returned to the field... overall the Ozil experiment has had mixed reviews and rightfully so, but I do have some empathy for the man because he has always carried himself the same way, whether for Real or the German National team, yet he has only suffered any lengthy down periods with Arsenal... to me that goes directly to this club's inability to surround him with the necessary players to succeed, especially for someone who is a pass first type
of player; as such, this simply highlights our club's ineffective and antiquated transfer policies... frankly I'm disappointed in both Ozil and our management team for not stepping up when it counted because they had a chance to do something special, but they didn't have it in them... there is no one that better exemplifies our recent history than Ozil, brief moments
of greatness undercut by long periods
of disappointing
play, only made worse by his mopey posturing like a younger slightly less awkward Wenger... what a terribly waste
LOL.Walcotts been fit for months mate.Many
of you seem to be assuming that hes been leaving theo on the bench as some smart ploy to make him
more hungry.lol.if that was the case Wenger has let the team suffer to suit his silly games, but i doubt this is the truth.The truth is ever1 needs to wake up an smell the roses, the way things are going Walcott won't start any games an could well leave in the summer, theres no excuse for
playing Ramsey an Wiltshere
out of position when we have Walcott on the bench, hes leaving
We must learn from our mistakes but it's a shame with the way we are reacting.How many
of you would put your money on AC Milan beating Bayern in the UCL if they lost 6 - 0 today.As far as am concerned from a neutral point
of view I expected both Bayern and Chelsea to beat Arsenal.It's shocking our defeat has come as shock.Players are being
played out of position and the teams we've
played used far
more stronger squads.
Off topic anyone notice how ozil was used on the left wing last season and the first part
of this season and he was under performing fans and pundits were all saying how wenger should build the team around ozil since that was his best
position and he cost us 42m well since his return he has only
played either cam or right wing (he said in a interview that those were his fav
positions since he
played them at real) taking the place
of an in form cazorla and it all seems to work I think wenger has done this all on purpose because if u look at ozils overall performance after his injury its much better than before, he tackles, wins the ball back and covers
more distance than anyone else wenger does this often using players
out of position for a while only to make their overall game better and mostly it works genius