Yes, on balance, there are probably
more trad published books that are better than indie books but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
So for me to buy
more trad published books than self because I have limited money, not because of bias, makes logical sense and has NOTHING TO DO WITH BIAS, which obviously your comments were.
Among the 13 (out of 125 total) of them reporting incomes of $ 30,000 or more, 7 listed 2 or
more trad published titles... so I'm thinking maybe they didn't understand the question as I did.
Not exact matches
Just has a different perspective on the
publishing industry from many indies, and is
more used to people having the goal of a
trad deal.
We asked her a bunch of questions about what she found in regard to author income, books on sale, and whether indie or
trad publishing is
more likely to get a person to a living wage (which she defined as the U.S. average of $ 32,000 a year).
Going indie in genres where the publishers aren't interested (and making
more money as an indie than in
trad publishing!)
The
more we can do to help authors navigate the tricky learning curve of either self -
publishing or working with agents towards a
trad publishing contract the better!
I came out of this episode even
more determined to avoid agents and
trad publishing.
Quite frankly, I make
more than many
Trad published and I turned DOWN the trad offers because it would slow down the process of writing, interfere with my contact with the fans, cost me money and essentially make me a low paid wage slave for the «honor» of having someone else utterly control my w
Trad published and I turned DOWN the
trad offers because it would slow down the process of writing, interfere with my contact with the fans, cost me money and essentially make me a low paid wage slave for the «honor» of having someone else utterly control my w
trad offers because it would slow down the process of writing, interfere with my contact with the fans, cost me money and essentially make me a low paid wage slave for the «honor» of having someone else utterly control my work.
Successful self -
published authors tend to promote themselves
more effectively than the average
trad pub author.
As I've continued on my self -
publishing path, though, I've felt
more frustration with what happens with my
trad - pubbed books.
There are a few bad apples among the
trad published, but far
more in the self -
published ranks (and stop reading that I mean ALL self - publishers, or I'm going to start recommending that you get glasses).
There are plenty of
trad published books that are
more boring than watching paint dry or
more vapid than a sparkly vampire.
However, we know they're elitists from things they've said in the past about self -
published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining
more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
If you wrote and
published just a little bit
more and did some of these as self - pubbed books at a lower price range to go along with your
trad pub deals, I'll bet you could make a lot
more.
But one reason I won't be
publishing a lot
more middle grade is because I also like to sell books... and it's just very hard to do that in indie MG (or
trad - pub MG, to be honest — the market is simply smaller).
It has
more trad - pub nomenclature and you need to know your stuff before venturing into LS, so not at all something for first time
publishing.
The difference in income between successful traditionally
published authors and successful self -
published authors is getting narrower each day, with many self -
published authors now making much, much
more than their
trad pub counterparts.
As for spelling mistakes with indies, yeh, some but no
more than I've found in the
trad published books.
More and more authors are becoming hybrids these days, both indie and trad - publis
More and
more authors are becoming hybrids these days, both indie and trad - publis
more authors are becoming hybrids these days, both indie and
trad -
published.
Most
trad published e-books are priced so high (often as high if not
more than the printed book) that they are pricing themselves out of the competition.
Another question: do you think the discounting by Amazon could be on purpose, because they noticed big
publishing was practicing deep discount conditions with Amazon's discounts, and Amazon knew the
more discounting it would do, the
more trad pub and hybrid authors would be screwed, and tempted to become only self -
published authors?
Asserting that self - publishers take away seven times
more than
trad published authors may appeal to his audience, but ignores the fact that Amazon pays just 35 % much of the time.
Trad is in trouble, hybrid will work for some authors, self -
publishing will work for even
more authors.
I figure a few
more books down the road I will start looking at
trad publishing.
Not that writers are * paying *
trad publishers to be
published, but in the sense that our time is worth money and (possibly)
more income (certainly higher royalty rates) if we self - pub instead of choosing
trad pub.
It contrasts with the
trad publishing / big bookstore business model, where a book is a short - lived «event», sometimes lasting no
more than three months.
As I close in on 50 novels
published, I don't think I'm suffering from a lack of my work being available, so see no reason to kill myself on
more than a novel every quarter, which in
trad pub circles would be considered near miraculous, and for me would be a vacation.
You can now add
more books (what you have to do anyway under a
trad contract), because self -
publishing is a volume business.
The implied worry for traditional publishers: how long will it be before
trad -
publishing authors do figure out that self -
publishing seems to substantially enhance an author's career — creating
more skepticism and criticism of the publishers?
The worse
trad published books are, the less likely it is anybody will be all that bothered by the typos and bad grammar in mine, the
more likely they will just take them as a matter of course, something you'll now find in everything.
I have to admit I've never seen that in an indie — any
more than I've seen obvious OCR errors like I have from
trad published e-books because they can't be bothered to proof the e-book after scanning in the hard copy.
Pulp fiction was where authors started out because it paid less than «traditional» markets (they were mostly short stories), but with indie novels, I think (some) authors are making
more money than comparable traditional
publishing contracts (and I see some
trad - pub authors supplementing their income with self - pub, which is also similar to some of the pulp fiction writers of the past).
Anyway — thanks again for writing such a good article, it's certainly food for thought; and has made me even
more glad that I decided to stick with the self -
publishing instead of chasing the
trad pub dream, ha ha!
Second, with self -
publishing, authors tend to price their e-books lower than the
trad - publishers and those low prices tend to earn much
more money.
But, when I see one policy change after another, all of which are implemented with ruthless inefficiency and all of which seem to impact indie authors
more than
trad -
published authors, my spidey - senses start to tingle.
Bookended with
more info on writing in general and tips for planning for
trad or self
publishing, I think it could be a marvelous resource.
A good debut author who might have earned $ 3k to $ 5k from a
trad publisher now earns that much or
more by self -
publishing.
If all you want to do is write... well, even if
trad -
published, you'll still have to do
more than just write; you'll be expected to do promotion on your own, but going indy means you'll have to do a lot
more of everything, If the time you can devote to writing /
publishing is limited, that's something to consider.
Since the basic premise of the assumption about
trad published works is wrong, well, that makes it all the
more difficult to swallow those sorts of reviews.
The Daily Mail, in this instance, is acting as nothing
more than a cheerleader for traditional
publishing, pushing the
trad's agenda and assuming its readers aren't smart enough to figure that out.
When the
trad camp saw the sales numbers, they hopped in, too, so once in a while (and I predict with growing frequency in the future), indie
published writers will define
more new genres, so keep writing!
As regular IndieReader's know by now, by cutting out the middleman of publishers, indie authors work directly with online retailers to
publish and distribute their books
more quickly,
more inexpensively to the consumer, and for a much larger share of the profits than a «
trad» publisher offers.
So, yes, the indie authors become increasingly competitive, and the
trad published ebooks will suffer a lot
more.
The right way to look at it is that whether or not you have a
trad publishing deal, doing self
publishing will make you
more money than if you gave it a miss — plus, you and a bunch of readers will have a lot of fun!
Interestingly, once you have a huge platform, you may not NEED a
trad published deal (you might make about the same money anyway, but you'd be selling a lot
more books and getting
more visibility with a traditional publisher, which is what I want).
Trad publishing takes on many forms, and the farther one gets from the big pubbers the
more difficult to see the return to the author, no?
I'm saying, «I see far
more writers paying the bills with their indie
publishing than in
trad -
publishing.»
Once you're
published, especially when you have multiple books out, have built some fanbase, etc (whether
trad - pub or indie), you have
more options.
The only reason
trad published authors don't is that most
trad publishers do NOT push the e-book and they price it so high that people see
more «value» in the printed version, especially the hardcover.