«In
most climate models there is little or no accounting for the carbon fixed by soil microbes,» she says.
Not exact matches
A few of the main points of the third assessment report issued in 2001 include: An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the
climate system; emissions of greenhouse gases and aerosols due to human activities continue to alter the atmosphere in ways that are expected to affect the
climate; confidence in the ability of
models to project future
climate has increased; and
there is new and stronger evidence that
most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities.
Speaking at an annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Barnett said
climate models based on air temperatures are weak because
most of the evidence for global warming is not even
there.
However,
there are lots of disagreements discussed here — in regard to
climate sensitivity, hurricanes, aerosols,
climate modelling etc. but
most of these are serious discussions amongst people who are genuinely trying to come to an answer.
I appreciate that some newer
models have half - points between some of these, but
there has never been a face / defrost, which would seem to me to be the
most appealing option, especially for those in a cold
climate.
There was also an additional CDX
model with a 2.0 lt engine, which has
most of the standard
model's features, minus the CD Multichanger,
climate control, cruise control, Sat Nav, traction control.
Given the uncertainty in
climate projections,
there can be surprises that may cause more dramatic disruptions than anticipated from the
most probable
model projections.
A warning to the skeptics —
there are very obvious trends for
most of the parameters, which accord with
climate model predictions for a hotter drier future.
In order to understand the potential importance of the effect, let's look at what it could do to our understanding of
climate: 1) It will have zero effect on the global
climate models, because a) the constraints on these
models are derived from other sources b) the effect is known and
there are methods for dealing the errors they introduce c) the effect they introduce is local, not global, so they can not be responsible for the signal / trend we see, but would at
most introduce noise into that signal 2) It will not alter the conclusion that the
climate is changing or even the degree to which it is changing because of c) above and because that conclusion is supported by multiple additional lines of evidence, all of which are consistent with the trends shown in the land stations.
What
climate models assume is a wide - ranging compendium of physical processes that are either well known but too complicated to incorporate into the
climate model (for example the direct radiational effect of Carbon Dioxide on greenhouse warming is considerably * simplified * compared to the
most sophisticated «line - by - line» radiation
models that are available, simply because
there isn't enough computer power to make the line - by - line calculation at every location on Earth at every time step within in a GCM), or are not sufficiently well - known to treat them with complete certainty.
I am talking about a consensus of multiple lines of evidence (empirical evidence in addition to
modeling, logic etc.) When
there is a large degree of uncertainty, as
there is in
climate science, a consensus of evidence is
most definitely very important.
I was told by one semi-expert
climate scientist (someone who was in the process of changing fields to
climate science from a different numerical
modeling field, as so possibly still catching up) that although globally aerosols played the
most important role in this period,
there was also around the same time period (maybe beginning slightly earlier?
``...
there is no evidence for global - scale tipping points in any of the
most com ¬ prehensive
models evaluated to date in studies of
climate evolution in the 21st century.
Those numbers were based on crude
climate models whose validity had never been tested by observations — and even today,
there remains no validation for the
climate models that are at the heart of
most claims of
climate catastrophe.
Also, Jeff Weiss makes valid points that
there is a community that addresses such issues as related to the
climate system and
climate models, although
most climate researchers do seem generally ignorant on this topic.
Most fundamentally, the inference revolves around assuming that
there exists a linear relationship, and estimating parameters in the linear relationship from
climate models.
But
there is only one Earth, so at
most only one of the
models can approximate the
climate system which exists in reality.
I'm going to assume you aren't claiming that
most climate scientists don't understand that
there are issues with the
models, that different
models give different results, that as we move in time the
models are less likely to be accurate, and that the
models are just that
models and not complete realistic representations of
climate.
As others have noted, the IPCC Team has gone absolutely feral about Salby's research and the
most recent paper by Dr Roy Spencer, at the University of Alabama (On the Misdiagnosis of Surface Temperature Feedbacks from Variations in Earth's Radiant Energy Balance), for one simple reason: both are based on empirical, undoctored satellite observations, which, depending on the measure required, now extend into the past by up to 32 years, i.e. long enough to begin evaluating real
climate trends; whereas much of the Team's science in AR4 (2007) is based on primitive
climate models generated from primitive and potentially unreliable land measurements and proxies, which have been «filtered» to achieve certain artificial realities (
There are other more scathing descriptions of this process I won't use).
While it is true that
most of the CO2 - caused warming in the atmosphere was
there before humans ever started burning coal and driving SUVs, this is all taken into account by computerized
climate models that predict global warming...
# 62: What has been glossed over, or completely ignored in media reports about this study is that Tim Barnett told an annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science «
climate models based on air temperature are weak because
most of the evidence is not even
there».
My reflection here is that
there is only the one real world, and hence
there is at
most one
climate model that can be right.
However,
there remains uncertainty in the rate of sea ice loss, with the
models that
most accurately project historical sea ice trends currently suggesting nearly ice - free conditions sometime between 2021 and 2043 (median 2035).12 Uncertainty across all
models stems from a combination of large differences in projections among different
climate models, natural
climate variability, and uncertainty about future rates of fossil fuel emissions.
To draw another parallel here, in contrast with Boeing's engineers and computer scientists — and again from my personal observation —
there seems to be little interest among
most of the
climate modeling engineers and the
climate modeling computer scientists as to what actually is physically happening up
there in the sky.
Planet
climate model, on the other hand, looks deceivingly real (honestly:
model results
most of the time look sooooo good compared to real world observations), always smooth, always
there for you, no queues, no delays, lacking the difficulties, ugliness, incompleteness and noisiness of planet Earth observations.
Statistically speaking, instead of
there being a clear inconsistency (i.e., the observed trend value falls outside of the range which encompasses 95 % of all
modeled trends) between the observations and the
climate mode simulations for lengths ranging generally from 11 to 28 years and a marginal inconsistency (i.e., the observed trend value falls outside of the range which encompasses 90 % of all
modeled trends) for
most of the other lengths, now the observations track closely the marginal inconsistency line, although trends of length 17, 19, 20, 21 remain clearly inconsistent with the collection of
modeled trends.
As we have discussed,
there is a skill required in comparing
models to observations in ways that are
most productive, and that requires a certain familiarity with the history of
climate and weather
models.
My reasons for thinking that
climate models are among the
most complex, if not THE
most complex
models out
there are: