Ad homs aside, my point was that you can't average measurements that were never measured.
Not exact matches
Absolute Support is
not your
average «Value Brand» - we take 4 - 6 compression
measurements at precise intervals between the ankle and end of garment.
The traditional methods used in materials science analysis, like high - powered electron microscopy and spectroscopy, do
not combine chemical insights with the spatial resolution of IR imaging, the researchers said, so they can only provide
average chemical
measurements.
That
measurement included only the height above the
average level of the sea and did
not consider the depth of the wave trough.
The changes in
average cranial capacity from Morton's seed - based
measurements to shot - based
measurements can
not be reconstructed with any certainty, incorporate erroneous seed
measurements made by Morton's assistant, yielded a broad range of changes (− 10 to +12 in3) hidden by Gould's mean, and are confounded by the shifts in sample composition (circa 50 %) between the two rounds of
measurement.
When the researchers compared those numbers, they found that ambulatory blood pressure — an
average of all
measurements taking while they were awake — tended to be higher than their in - office
averages,
not lower.
Taking a single
measurement, or even a 24 - hour
average, is
not enough.
While the grades — first given districtwide last month — are
not factored into students» overall grade point
averages, those who score well on the
measurements earn a «hire me first»...
Put differently, and In the authors» words, «the analysis does
not support interpreting the four domain scores [or indicators] as
measurements of distinct aspects of teaching; instead, the analysis supports using a single rating, such as the
average over all [sic] components of the system to summarize teacher effectiveness» (p. 12).
The work is an estimate of the global
average based on a single - column, time -
average model of the atmosphere and surface (with some approximations — e.g. the surface is
not truly a perfect blackbody in the LW (long - wave) portion of the spectrum (the wavelengths dominated by terrestrial / atmospheric emission, as opposed to SW radiation, dominated by solar radiation), but it can give you a pretty good idea of things (fig 1 shows a spectrum of radiation to space); there is also some comparison to actual
measurements.
[Response: While the raw data at any one station at any one time obviously doesn't change, the value for any regional or global
average in the past is always an estimate since there isn't a perfect network of
measurements across the whole area.
The question isn't whether UHI contributes to surface temperature rise, but whether it affect temperature
measurements sufficiently to bias the measured
averages.
First they said the Mars and Venus
measurements weren't measured, just computed; then they said we couldn't measure temperatures on other planets; then they said we'd need billions of
measurements to estimate
average surface temperature.
Now draw a picture of the globe and show on it what you call «
average temperatures» for whatever zones you choose to draw on it; then show recent variations from those «
averages» — the variations from the longterm
average in a higher latitude zone don't mean as much, because we're comparing today's
measurement to
averages based on fewer numbers, collected over fewer years in fewer places, when looking at variation near the Poles.
This is clear by your repeated confusion about how taking thousands of temperature
measurements to get an
average, repeatedly over time, then comparing those
averages to identify changes over time, does
not yield results measured in integers.
You really can
not logically
average temperatures across the globe with such poor distribution of stations and such variability of accuracy in local
measurement capability.
Beck interpretes the latter as the direct influence of seawater temperatures, but the
measurements near the floating ice border were just
average,
not the lowest... Modern
measurements give less than 10 ppmv difference over the seas from the coldest oceans to the tropics, including a repeat of the trips that Buch made.
You can
average a million thermometer readings in Cape Cod and it will
not improve the precision of a single
measurement made in Cape Town.
This should be obvious from the fact that we can
not determine the
average temperature of the ocean from 10
measurements with any accuracy or precision.
The presence of 1 / f noise means you can't increase precision forever by
averaging more and more
measurements or increasing integration or counting times.
I couldn't find their «2003
measurements of seasonal LST» or their «annual
average LST», although Figure 29 of that CLIMLAKE report does show a three year temperature record for two places on the lake, so I suppose they might have used those.
• The measured «
average global temperature» isn't necessarily representative of the overall thermal energy in the system, because temperatures can change in regions
not part of the
measurement system.
For November to be warmer than the long - term
average in the troposphere, we would have had to see solar output increase over the
measurement period (it has
not), or sensible or latent heat to be higher than
average (it is
not, in fact we ware in a ENSO neutral or cool PDO situation), or we would have to see GH gases having an effect.
The
AVERAGE has increased, but that is
not a
measurement.
The
measurements from most ships will have some kind of systematic bias, but this will
not be exactly the same for all ships, so some component of that will be reduced by
averaging the
measurements from many ships together.
Yet we know the land around then Arctic is warming faster than the global
average so it seems unreasonable to suggest that the ocean isn't, Satellite temperature
measurements up to 82.5
N support this as does the decline of Arctic sea ice here, here & here.
2) The fractal nature of the earth's surface means that
averaging anything over that surface will give different answers based on how far apart your
measurements are taken — and the answers will
not converge to a single «correct» answer the closer together you make them.
As 34F ocean below, this would lead to a 5 deg
average temp increase in the
measurements for the arctic area when in fact the ocean below hasn't warmed.
The newest entry in the theological literature is Parker (2004, 2006), who, once again, does
not show the absence of an urban heat island by direct
measurements, but purports to show the absence of an effect on large - scale
averages by showing that the temperature trends on calm days is comparable to that on windy days.
Let's suppose this position is correct, but when creating the global
average I cut the percentage of rural stations in the
measurement network from 75 % to 25 % (sorry don't know the real numbers).
i.e.
averaging a whole bunch of inaccurate
measurements taken with widely varying methods does
not give you an accurate
measurement.
For example, since showing lights at night was generally
not a good idea because of the submarine threat, maybe the
measurements were biased more to daytime
measurements, where the surface was generally warmer due to solar heating, than to
average temperatures over the whole day which would be more typical of peacetime.
Prior to 1979 when satellites began to measure lower troposphere temperature all over the globe we had no measure of global
average temperature (GAT) only guesstimates based on fewer and fewer
measurements using instruments
not designed to measure decadal trends so small as a few milliKelvins per decade.
Direct
measurements and other proxies that don't involve multi-century
averaging, however, show much more variability.
Bunny Labs has had a word or two or three or four to say about Ernst - Georg Beck who never met a CO2
measurement he did
not accept as representative of the background atmosphere, especially when it was taken in the middle of Paris or some other large city, which as we all know has a bit more CO2 in the air, then in your
average fizzy beverage of choice.
One could argue that real SST
measurements aren't quite so well - behaved, but it is possible to show (see Figure 11 of the HadSST2 paper, Rayner et al. 2006 for details) that the standard deviation of grid box
averages falls roughly as one over the square root of the number of contributing observations and that the standard deviation for gridbox
averages based on a single observation is a lot less than 10 degrees.
Note that I am
not necessarily claiming that this is the feedback operating on the long time scales associated with global warming — only that it is the
average feedback involved in the climate fluctuations occurring during the period when the satellite was making its
measurements.
Cross checking
measurements is useful for improving the error estimates, but
not always necessary for getting a rather accurate
average.
The tropospheric satellite data doesn't have the resolution to show a so - called hotspot, the lower troposphere
measurement is an
average from ground level to an altitude of 10 km.
Finally the example of distance does
not carry over exactly to the climate problem, since distance is extensive (summable) whereas temperature is intensive (
not summable), so concepts like
measurement norms and
averages can
not be readily invoked for temperature as they can for distance.
In the past two years Climate News Network has reported that climate scientists certainly expected a slowdown, but just
not right now; or that planetary
measurements might be incomplete or misleading; or that even though
average levels were down, this masked a series of hotter extremes.
[4] Thanks to a strong El Niño that brought near
average precipitation to the northern California, the statewide April 1 snowpack
measurement in 2016 showed state water resources at 87 percent of the long - term
average; however, the snowpack was
not sufficient to undo water deficits caused by years of drought.
concepts like
measurement norms and
averages can
not be readily invoked for temperature as they can for distance.
This means that each one second temperature value is
not an instantaneous
measurement of the air temperature but an
average of the previous 40 to 80 seconds.
If this is
not being taken into account, then the number is meaningless as you are effectively
averaging differnt
measurements.
If a chemist was measuring the mass of samples and realized that they had been placing their thumb on the scale for some samples, they would
not keep those
measurements and try to «adjust them» by guestimating how much pressure their thumb was applying to the scale on
average and then applying a correction factor to all their
measurements.
Our smoothed
average is a product of computation,
not of
measurement.
Averaging is appropriate for an unbiased sample of
measurements,
not for a selected set of numerical models.
In the Fahrenheit
measurements familiar to citizens of the U.S., the G - 8 target means
not allowing a global temperature
average above roughly 61.6 degrees Fahrenheit.
BTW, since we're talking about TOB, I don't like that you use mean or
average temp trends, at least min and max are real
measurements,
not the the
average of the two values.