The climate response does
not reach equilibrium at the peak, because it doesn't get a chance to: at the peak, the CO2 concentrations reverse direction and begin declining.
It seems like a lot of these processes won't reach equilibrium for thousands of years.
Antarctic land ice won't reach equilibrium with global climate for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Equilibrium sea level rise is for the contribution from ocean thermal expansion only and does
not reach equilibrium for at least many centuries.
It hadn't reached equilibrium from the previous rise.
Why has the planet
not reached equilibrium?
Estimates based on recent observations can only be of effective, not equilibrium, climate sensitivity, since the climate system has
not reached equilibrium.
Not exact matches
And if we've learned anything over the last few years, it's that expected returns do
not equal realized returns, and expensive markets don't have to crash in order to
reach some sort of
equilibrium.
And yet the Japanese will play to a draw with equanimity, content at the last simply to let go, so that all forces can
reach equilibrium, and I do
not believe their version of the game is necessarily any less elegant or profound than ours.
This is
not irrevocable, as the experience of France shows, but the vote shares for green parties appear to
reach an
equilibrium of around five to nine per cent.
Around the same time, another type (ST69,
not a multidrug resistant strain) also emerged, and again quickly
reached an
equilibrium within the overall population.
I had to stop that calculation before it
reached equilibrium, but
not because of a runaway.
While I still haven't entirely renounced my beloved collection of stilettos, these days in my fifth month of pregnancy when my balance and
equilibrium are a bit off (a common side effect of adjusting to a growing mid-section) you will most likely catch me
reaching for midi - heels, kitten heels or chunky block heels during the work week.
Is it that the market has
not yet
reached equilibrium?
When the market is
not priced correctly knowledgeable investors will quickly come in and either buy or sell to the point where the market
reaches equilibrium.
Not sure, but it does point out what I have said recently, that housing on the low end has
reached equilibrium with foreclosures.
If it doesn't rise much tomorrow, it means that the P&C reinsurers have
reached equilibrium with the good quarter.
During the period of time after an
equilibrium begins to change due to a change in a forcing (huge fast CO2 release for example), the planet is
not in
equilibrium; it is changing until the new
equilibrium is
reached.
There are uncertainties as to how long it will take to
reach equilibrium so the speed of warming is
not clearly known, but warm it will.
Co2 is
not like a big battery and continuously stores more and more heat, its just a matter of
equilibrium being
reached of a world on average 1.6 - 2C warmer?
The problems with associating sensitivity with a temperature in 2100 are twofold: first, at the time we
reach CO2 doubling, the temperature will lag behind the
equilibrium value due to thermal inertia, especially in the ocean (thought experiment — doubling CO2 today will
not cause an instant 3C jump in temperatures, any more than turning your oven on heats it instantly to 450F), and secondly, the CO2 level we are at in 2100 depends on what we do between now and then anyway, and it may more than double, or
not.
Not only do you («you» as in Victor and not the general you, because I presume there are people who actually model these things and may know the answer) not know how large the equilibrium response would be, but you don't know if the boundary proposed by your argument (cognate to the equilibrium response) had been reached over that peri
Not only do you («you» as in Victor and
not the general you, because I presume there are people who actually model these things and may know the answer) not know how large the equilibrium response would be, but you don't know if the boundary proposed by your argument (cognate to the equilibrium response) had been reached over that peri
not the general you, because I presume there are people who actually model these things and may know the answer)
not know how large the equilibrium response would be, but you don't know if the boundary proposed by your argument (cognate to the equilibrium response) had been reached over that peri
not know how large the
equilibrium response would be, but you don't know if the boundary proposed by your argument (cognate to the
equilibrium response) had been
reached over that period.
The heat source may have
reached a constant temperature, but the Earth isn't necessarily at
equilibrium with the new warmer environment yet.
Once the ice
reaches the equator, the
equilibrium climate is significantly colder than what would initiate melting at the equator, but if CO2 from geologic emissions build up (they would, but very slowly — geochemical processes provide a negative feedback by changing atmospheric CO2 in response to climate changes, but this is generally very slow, and thus can
not prevent faster changes from faster external forcings) enough, it can initiate melting — what happens then is a runaway in the opposite direction (until the ice is completely gone — the extreme warmth and CO2 amount at that point, combined with left - over glacial debris available for chemical weathering, will draw CO2 out of the atmosphere, possibly allowing some ice to return).
(it would be very tiny since a million molecules have to move faster to compensate for 390 extra absorptions) If this is true then there is no delay time in
reaching equilibrium & the daily temp cycles don't have to do much at all to restablish it.
It will help understand why
equilibrium isn't
reached until long, long after the carbon quits being added by burning fossil fuels.
Equilibrium is
not reached for many, many hundreds of years — during which the planet heats up, and continues to heat up for a long while after the extra carbon stops being added.
ECS is a bogus concept, based on the late Cenozoic cooling following the closing of Tethys and the isthmus of Panama, the world keeps getting colder and colder, so we have
not reached the bottom yet, indicating that there is no
equilibrium, just a pathway to the next bumper that bounces the climate the other way.
Since the changes are so constant a true
equilibrium will
not be
reached, but that doesn't matter.
I agree that the the samller the effective heat capacity, the more rapidly will the model
reach equilibrium, but I do
not understand how that lead to conclude «and the closer TCR will be to ECS».
Also don't understand why «slowing of cooling» is equated to warming, especially on a rotating planet that doesn't have time to
reach equilibrium.
In models, the ocean heat uptake is
not quite well represented in transient simulations while in long term simulations (assuming that model
reaches equilibrium), ocean heat uptake may be well represented.
Based on the ice core dCO2 / dT relationship, the increase in temperature since the LIA has added
not more than 6 ppmv to the atmosphere to
reach a new
equilibrium.
As the oceans approach some conditional
equilibrium, delta S would approach 0, for the oceans, delta S for the atmosphere is faster, but
not instantaneous, so there would be a lag, before it
reached its conditional
equilibrium.
In other words, regions receiving twice as much flux do
not need to be twice as hot to
reach equilibrium and cold regions have a more important weight in the mean temperature.
The planet
reaches an essential
equilibrium during these periods in that it
reaches a certain temperature range for 10,000 or 20,000 years and does
not continue the warming it did to rise out of the glacial period.
With regard to the adiabatic process the exchange of energy does
not simply involve radiation and so the process takes more time to
reach equilibrium.
When it starts to change by degrees, it won't be in
equilibrium, but once CO2 levels hold more steady, staying within a 5 % range, as they did in the last millennium, that kind of
equilibrium will be
reached again.
In reality, we have a situation where no
equilibrium is
reached (and probably will
not be
reached in short term), because the extra input increases slightly exponential over time.
If we were able to continue burning the same amount of fossil fuel each year, atmospheric CO2 would
not increase indefinitely, but would
reach a somewhat higher
equilibrium.
Back in the real world, however, CO2 residence time in the atmosphere is 5 - 10 years, and
equilibrium is largely
reached in a few decades,
not a few thousand years.
This CO2 will last in the ATM for hundreds upon hundreds of years which is why Flannery made the claim that even if we stopped emitting CO2 the temp would
not begin to fall for a thousand years and whats more the temp would continue to rise until
equilibrium is
reached again.
I will howl at you that you can't tell me the glass of water has
reached an
equilibrium with the ambient environment because the ambient temperature is inhomogeneous and always changing.
Only now heat can leave the black body via conduction and convection as well as radiation, so I don't want to say the black body
reaches radiation - rate -
equilibrium, rather it
reaches energy - rate -
equilibrium.
The fact that air in fact conducts heat just like the silver, and that if you wait for
equilibrium — whether or
not it actually takes a very long time on a human scale to get there — the
equilibrium reached will be isothermal or violate the second law, in particular by manifestly
not being the maximum entropy state of the system.
By any mechanism you like — this isn't about mechanism, this is about conservation of flow — the temperature of the rest of the system must increase enough to drive up the flow in the unblocked part of the garden hose until dynamic
equilibrium is once again
reached.
So asserting that heat won't flow in figure 2 above, or will stop flowing before all of the gas
reaches thermal
equilibrium, is just like saying that heat won't flow between two ordinary jars of gas at different temperatures in the laboratory, and well over a hundred years of experiments, the entire refrigeration and air conditioning industry, a huge body of technology and engineering, and well understood physical theories all say otherwise.
Until an
equilibrium temperature is
reached, present day observations will
not tell us the exact value of the climate's sensitivity to CO2....»
Air is merely a relatively poor conductor and doesn't have time to
reach local thermal
equilibrium as it convectively moves up and down, and it takes a long time to
reach global thermal
equilibrium across great distances via conduction alone.
It presupposes that all thermal relaxation that can occur has occurred, unless you wish to work a system with broken ergodicity, or unless you can show that there is a vast separation of relaxation timescales, one large enough that
equilibrium will
not be
reached in the particular times of interest in a particular problem.