I would say that the angels
never had eternal life, and that eternal life, once given, can not be removed, not even by God.
Some of those He chooses do have eternal life, but some of them will
never have eternal life.
Not exact matches
Finally, read the commentary of the Apostle John on the discussion between Jesus and Niccodemus, «For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should
never perrish, but
have eternal life,» and then you will see and understand what God's love looks like.
A God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could
have made every one of them happy, yet
never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter
life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels
eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless
lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell - mouths mercy, and invented hell - mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and
has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him!
Jeremy it just hit me like a bolt of lightning i am so excited about this thought that salvation
has nothing to do with
eternal life but is speaking of losing the ability to be an overcomer in Christ.
Having been there as a carnal christian i always believed in Jesus but i felt i did nt
have the power to
live a christian
life so i felt like a hippocrite i was still subject to sin and sinful desires.So in that sense i
had never received salvation because i
had never been an overcomer in the first place.So i can see how a christian could lose there salvation
having once walked by faith but that does nt effect there
eternal life in Christ.Just so others know i am now walking by faith and am an overcomer i know what it is like to experience the power of the holy spirit and to not be overcome by my old nature that is what Jesus wants us all to experience rather than being a victim of the enemy.Whether we are an overcomer or not does nt effect our
eternal life.brentnz
If a person goes to church, reads their Bible, and calls themselves a Christian, but
has never believed in Jesus for
eternal life (John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47), then they
have not received the indwelling Holy Spirit.
For if those with faith come up short we
have lost nothing for we were happy in hoping for
eternal life, but if those without faith come up short then they
have to face the reality that they rejected God and they missed out on the greatest opportunity, plus they probably were
never truly happy in this
life.
And so how thankful we can be that He
never, not once in all of Scripture, tells us that in order to receive
eternal life, we
have to promise Him certain things or a certain level of obedience.
Lots of people
have «
lived as a Christian» for years, but
never actually believed in Jesus for
eternal life.
What religion offers: — The opportunity to avoid
eternal punishment for not worshiping / believing in my god (not worried enough to care)-- An explanation for the universe and why we are here (I'll take the knowledge gained from the application of the scientific method, but thanks)--
Living forever in heavenly bliss (I am content with this
life)-- The opportunity to divide humanity based upon different belief systems (There is enough dividing us already)-- Purpose, a code of ethics, and fulfillment (I
have that already, without religion)-- Develop a personal relationship with god (I
've never seen or heard from any gods nor
have I seen any independantly verified scientifically collected peer reviewed proof.
Only one theological position
has ever resulted in the Romans 6:1 question, and it is the position which says that
eternal life is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, and that once a person
has received
eternal life in this way, it can
never be lost.And when we realize the truth of this, it is incredibly liberating.
He must
have never been a Christian in the first place, or maybe He
had eternal life, but he lost it, but one thing is for sure, there is no way that person will be in heaven.»
You
have the words that give
eternal life» i told myself id
never give up.
we are sinners and can
never work ourselves into the perfect righteousness that God requires, and so God sent Jesus to
live and die and rise again, so that whoever believes in Him might
have eternal life (John 3:16; 5; 24; 6:47; Rom 4:4 - 5; Eph 2:8 - 9, etc..)
Since it is about the election and rejection of Israel for God's purposes, many believe that Romans 9 teaches that even after we receive
eternal life, if we fail to
live according to God's purposes, we either lose our
eternal life or we prove we
never had it in the first place.
I think that as people respond to the revelation they
have received, God obligates Himself to provide more revelation to them, so that they receive enough revelation from God to either accept the offer of eternal life by faith alone, or to reject such an offer (See What About Those Who Have Never Heard the Gospe
have received, God obligates Himself to provide more revelation to them, so that they receive enough revelation from God to either accept the offer of
eternal life by faith alone, or to reject such an offer (See What About Those Who
Have Never Heard the Gospe
Have Never Heard the Gospel?).
It's a wonderful clever way to
never have to prove anything, «just die and you'll see»... but make sure you give plenty of your gold to the Priests... for they inform God upon your death that you
have paid your monetary dues on earth as a Christian and then ~ * boom * ~
eternal life.
It can leave many people thinking that they are going to heaven because they
have «prayed a prayer» yet
never understood that
eternal life is received by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
Jesus
never died for the sins of Satan, nor did Jesus ever offer
eternal life to Satan if Satan
would believe in Him for it.
Nowhere is the author making the point that if people sin willfully, or even if they return to an empty form of religion which accomplished nothing, that this proves that they do not
have eternal life, lost their
eternal life, or
never had it in the first place.
But when it comes back, just try to remember what you KNOW to be true from Scripture, that Jesus loves you, forgives you, died for you, and will
never let you go because you
have eternal life through Him.
I
have never felt freer when I realized there was no
eternal judgement and I could lead a full moral
life without hobbling through
life with some supernatural crutch to make me feel good about myself.
I am aware that very few people are ready for the vision of God at the end of this
life and I
have never been at ease with the Protestant view that our
eternal destiny is determined by
life in this world alone.
Unlike the Christian god that wouldn't ever change his mind or doctrine... except for cursing the world for eating an apple... except for telling Abraham to sacrifice his son, but then stopping him... and except for killing nearly all
life on Earth and then because of the guilt says I'll
never to do that ever again - in exactly that way... and except for deciding that 2 of himself (Father and Spirit) weren't enough any more, and creating / fathering / spiriting as Son... and except for forgiving all sin, when «In the beginning» he
had cursed the universe for the eating of an apple, by
having his creation torture and kill his only begotten Son... and except for
having to repeat himself about the unchanging
eternal rules, to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Saul / Paul, Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Bahá «u «lláh, David Koresh, and a whole host of others... and except for... and except for...
Finally, there are many who say that if a person truly
has eternal life, they can
never lose it, but their good works will prove that they actually
have it.
While you wait, remember God's many promises in Scripture, that He loves you and will
never leave you nor forsake you, and that you
have eternal life because you
have believed in Jesus for it.
If they do not
have the good works to back up their claim, then they
never really
had eternal life to begin with.
No, because the end justify s the means and you
have already made up your mind that you are right about Jesus and there can be no other truth, and it's
never about learning more about different people and cultures and religions, it's about making sure anyone who is different knows you are a Christian which is the only sensible way to
live and anyone who is not like you is either converted, attacked, pitied or dismissed as a fool who awaits
eternal damnation.
Regardless, notice that the ones to whom he says «I
never knew you»
have a blue - ribbon set of good works to back up their claim that they
have eternal life.
Is it possible and after reading about it i kept on thinking «i will sell to my soul for 20 carats get out shut up i will
never ever sell my soul to you oh god please help me and this is continuing for a few days i am afraid that i
have sold my sold to the devil
have i please help and still i think god's way of allowing others to hate him us much worse even you know and can easily think think about much better punishments like rebirth after being punished for all the sins in
life and i am feeling put on the sin of those who committed the unforgiviable sin (the early 0th century priests) imagine them burning in hell fire till now for 2000 years hopelessly screaming to god for help i can't belive the mercy of god are they forgiven even though commiting this sin keans going to hell for entinity thank you and congralutions i think the 7 year tribulation periodvis over in 18th century the great commect shooting and in 19th century the sun became dark for a day and moon was not visible on the earth but now satun
has the domination over me those who don't belive in jesus crist i used to belive in him but now after knowing a lot in science it is getting harharder to belive in him even though i know that he exsists and i only belived in him not that he died for me in the cross and also not for
eternal life and i still sin as much as i used to before but only a little reduced and i didn't accept satan as my master but what can i do because those who knowingly sin a lot and don't belive in jesus christ
has to accept satan as their master because he only teaches us that even though he is evil he gives us complete freedom but thr followers of jesus and god only
have freedom because they can sin only with in a limit and no more but recive their reward after their
life in heaven but the followers of satun
have to go to hell butbi don't want to go to hell and be ruled by the cruel tryant but still why didn't god destroy satun long way before and i think it was also Adam and eve's fault also they could
have blamed satan and could
have also get their punishment reduced but they didn't and today we are seeing the result
If you
have never placed your faith in Jesus Christ for
eternal life, then you are spiritually blind.
But if you recall, the word «saved» in the Bible
never refers to
having eternal life.
We
have, relative to each of us, «
eternal»
life already — we'll all
live 100 % of our
lives, and
never know a moment that we weren't alive.
Those who
have never heard His name will not be left unsaved, it's those that
have heard the gospels and
have chosen to reject the gospels the will not
have eternal life.
Gil if we only received one blessing in this
life and that was
eternal life in Jesus Christ that alone
would be enough but we are blessed way more than that because we
have been sent his holy spirit to help us overcome our old nature.He
never leaves us nor forsakes us whether good or bad happens he strengthens us in our weakness.It says in the bible that the rain falls on both the righteous or the wicked God is fair to all whether they deserve it or not he can not be anything else than a holy righteous loving and fair God.I do nt need to convince you to believe about God he will reveal himself to you if you are seeking the truth as he is the truth.I do nt try and make others believe its pointless.I know without a doubt that i am saved and my sins are forgiven.As a christian it will a joy to be with the Lord there is no fear in death for those that love him.In the meantime i serve him with all my heart until he calls me home.I love talking about the Lord but each of us must walk according to what we believe.I trust my
life to Jesus Christ and i choose to follow him who do you follow?
One
never understands that until one sees that love, not egotism,
has been the major fountainhead of all high faith in
life eternal.
However this may be, it is apparent that there is not now, there
never has been, and there
never will be, any strictly logical demonstration of what the Christian is talking about when he speaks not so much of immortality as of «
eternal life» and above all when he declares his faith in «resurrection».
They
have stressed obedience to the Lord's command «Go, and teach all nations» but
have been shy of stating the conviction of Scripture and Tradition, up to and including Vatican II, that unless they hear the Gospel and enter the Church, many will remain slaves of the devil, the flesh and the world, and may
never attain the
eternal life Christ won for them upon the Cross.
If you don't mention
eternal life or the equivalent (salvation that can
never be lost no matter what we do or don't do), you haven't given enough information.
If an unbeliever
has to
have all his questions answered before he believes in Jesus for
eternal life, they will probably
never believe.
I
've never thought of believing in my soul merely as a way to
eternal life and I wasn't taught as a child about my soul or the Bible - for as long as I can remember I felt communion with the earth and nature, and was fully aware of my soul and spirit, years before I ever learned of such things in the Bible.
So, before they take off and possibly
never see me again, I want to make sure that if they walk away with anything, that it's not me trying to start a friendship, nor trying to explain the sin problem, but instead making clear to them how they can
have eternal life as a free gift by just believing in Him for it.
However, probably like @JohnSouttar I
'd prefer to enjoy what goes down in his last year (I genuinely believe the board will not extend wengers contract again) without the
eternal whinging, irrational rants and unrealistic statements made by less well informed and in some cases simply stupid plastics who
never go to the emirates, don't possss any manners and
live in their self obsessed narcissistic worlds.
One bullet to the brain later, Ben is in the Other World, where he discovers a vast and curiously secular existence utterly unlike anything he could
have imagined: a realm of sprawling cities where the deceased of every age
live an
eternal second
life, and where forests of family trees are tended by mysterious humans who
never lived in the previous world.
When I was the age that many kids today are who are playing games like GTA and COD, I was
never allowed to play nor see anything that was age rated for adults because my parents felt I needed to learn about
life first and to know the fine line between reality and fiction and right and wrong, I
never got to play my first adult rated game till I was 17 and
had proven that I was mature enough to not copy anything from the game, that game was
Eternal Champions on the Mega Drive, fun game, but tacky.