You're implying that an atheist can
not be a moral person, which is absolutely not true.
He fought against atheism, and thought it to be mental illness, that you could
not be a moral person if you did not have faith.
Not exact matches
These
are indeed admirable qualities for a
person to have and, in some situations, displaying them will serve you well, but both research and history suggest that great leaders aren't always paragons of unbending
moral correctness.
We need, to understand that they
are fictional
people, who
are able to do things that real
people can
not, but I
'm talking more about identifying with their
moral code, their values in helping others and doing right from wrong.
They provide all of us with a sense of purpose and hope;
moral validation that we
are needed and part of something bigger than ourselves; comfort that we
are not alone and a community
is looking out for us; mentorship, guidance and personal development; a safety net; values, cultural norms and accountability; social gatherings, rituals and a way to meet new
people; and a way to pass time.
Not everyone agrees on what
is noble, for example, and there have
been atrocious acts of history committed by
people who sincerely believed they
were acting on a
moral ideal.
It
's an impossible dilemma, and proof that we can't ever delegate big
moral questions to the
people who sell us things.
And in my book on morality and getting these
people to grow up I again bring up the example of 19th century industrialists who
were incredibly rich and often rather cruel in their business lives who reinvented themselves, so a Carnegie whose business career certainly wasn't exemplary in any
moral sense.
«He
's an egomaniac devoid of all
moral sense» ---- said the society woman dressing for a charity bazaar, who dared
not contemplate what means of self - expression would
be left to her and how she would impose her ostentation on her friends, if charity
were not the all - excusing virtue ---- said the social worker who had found no aim in life and could generate no aim from within the sterility of his soul, but basked in virtue and held an unearned respect from all, by grace of his fingers on the wounds of others ---- said the novelist who had nothing to say if the subject of service and sacrifice
were to
be taken away from him, who sobbed in the hearing of attentive thousands that he loved them and loved them and would they please love him a little in return ---- said the lady columnist who had just bought a country mansion because she wrote so tenderly about the little
people ---- said all the little
people who wanted to hear of love, the great love, the unfastidious love, the love that embraced everything, forgave everything, and permitted everything ---- said every second - hander who could
not exist except as a leech on the souls of others.»
They managed to deliver tax breaks for the rich and oil companies, that
's indisputable, but
not on any of the «
moral» issues they've used since the early 70s to get votes from religious
people.
They somehow see us as having no
morals, instead of
people that do
not need religion to
be moral.
Most
people's
moral compass tells them something
is wrong with that;
not in Islam.
You accuse Christians of
being brainless and nasty, but most of the posts I've seen
are from
people who can't say enough to degrade and discredit others who take a
moral stand on life, politics or whatever.
The stories of players in these accounts challenge our
moral imagination by forcing us to recognize that the uniformed men on the field
are not just Football Players, but
Persons - brothers, fathers, husbands, and sons like me.
@Ralph
N, For the record, though no one forces belief in god (except parents), religious folk
are endlessly trying to impose their
moral beliefs on
people who don't share them.
Robin Thicke has A)
not been nearly as famous as Miley Cyrus has
been, nor
been famous for as long, and B) has never presented nor acted anything like a healthy,
moral role model for young
people.
Academic
moral theory, like preaching, «stiffens the backbone» of one's coreligionists (or co «ideologues) by «convincing
people who think like you that they
are not alone in their beliefs [and] have the backing of someone who
is confident, competent, articulate, and thoughtful.»
But alas,
people still prejudicially ascribe certain
moral qualities to others based on their belief system, so this
is not going away any time soon.
I don't see how I
'm less
moral of a
person because I
'm not one of you.
I believe it all depends on if the
person has a
moral compass or
not, regardless of their
s e x u a l orientation / preference!
You don't need religion to
be a «
moral»
person.
«
Not many
people,» Elliott notes, «feel a
moral duty to take part in these studies»» though, of course, we
are more than happy to reap the benefits brought by new drugs.
A better strategy would
be to point out how one doesn't need religion to
be a
moral person, and then demonstrate how some of the
people that claim to
be a beacon for religious zealots (the GOP) practice an existence devoid of morality.
Finally you said, «But alas,
people still prejudicially ascribe certain
moral qualities to others based on their belief system, so this
is not going away any time soon.»
God makes good stuff... Even good
moral people who don't know he
was made by him.
Some
people say that it
is pointless, as it can
not actually do anything, but in my opinion it does do something; it shows
moral and emotional support for those supporting the fight against child abuse.
But within the context of
people saying they
are SBNR, I don't really see such
people reacting against a loosely defined definition of religion as merely
moral teachings administered with certain rituals and structures.
Ridicule and
moral opprobrium, and manifestations of sheer hatred for one's very
being,
are not easy to bear, especially for conscientious and upright and morally sensitive
people.
Some
people who say it, really do believe in some equivalent of The Great Spirit, but those who don't usually mean» I
'm reflective and
moral, so please think well of me.»
Self - important simpletons commonly hate anyone that isn't bound to the «
moral» standards of verses such as Leviticus 20:13 which commands putting
people to death that
are not within the primitive social norms of living in caves and sacrificing goats and children and owning slaves.
= > treating races differently CAN
be fine /
moral for the same reason that while it
is immoral to favor a white
person over an african american for job selection, it
is NOT immoral to favor an african american over a white in job selection (within certain industries and to achieve specific goals).
People can
be moral and
not believe in God.
Well, I guess atheists lose, then, as they all lazily sit back, drink alcohol, smoke weed, and bully
people of religion, calling them hypocrites while
not showing their own
moral standards so that their own hypocrisy can
be judged.
If you would ask any atheist what their
moral system
is, the answer always comes back as «I don't do to other
people, what I would
not want done to me».
S.Lewis» «I
am here trying to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that
people often say about Him: «I
'm ready to accept Jesus as a great
moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim to
be God.»
I guess that goes to show you that
being a Christian didn't automatically make one a
moral person.
With Christianity, although the reincarnation aspect seems to have purposefully removed so that
people do
not become «lazy» in search of God in this life time, the practical and strict rules governing functions in this life (hard work to lead a prosperous life, improving
moral values, etc)
are appealing.
If owning a
person is not moral, then whether it
's voluntary or
not is irrelevant.
not faith in his existence) IM
not going to base my whole life on science like some
people do... science will fait... science does
not say what
Is moral and what is... so science can not be everythi
Is moral and what
is... so science can not be everythi
is... so science can
not be everything
History provides the
moral judgment, and we do
not have to
be theologians engaged in scriptural debates to point
people to the judgment rendered by history... Elaine
If owning another
person is immoral, then making provisions and instructions on owning another
person is not moral.
People don't have to «claim» they
're moral; they can actually
BE moral without believing in the jolly green giant or some sky fairy.
If they
were so «
moral» on their own, wouldn't they take the high road and accept that this
person has made a different choice than they have.
I
'm a Christian and I KNOW Christ exists, but
not in this man - conttived and contorted punishing unforgiving version conceived and dictated by those with
morals much more questionable than the average decent
person on the street or even myself.
This
is not god
's moral, it
's just commands he gave to Israel
people in certain situations.
Someone who
is a tyrants and terrorists who does
not agree with them and wants them to
be silent
is a
person who limits rights, choices, says what
's moral and who and how to prey
is what
were against.
Case in point, it
is not logical to suggest there
is «good» vs «bad» if there
is no ultimate
moral authority, no higher power that created everything, including free will and the ability to choose whether to heed that drive to do what
is «good» vs doing what you want to do at the expense of «good» and of other
people.
The gospel isn't a
moral code or a formula for getting
people into heaven, says New Testament scholar Tom Wright More
It
is NOT possible to
be a politician of the sort we have today AND actually
be a
moral or religious
person.
I have also seen
people who turned away from the Church and / or broke a
moral or ethical standard of the Church and they feel so guilty they think
people in the Church
are judging them when they
are not.