Vatican II speaks of Christian unity,
not ecclesial unity, as the goal of ecumenism, and for good reason.
Not exact matches
I thought according to what I have seen you say many times, the other «
ecclesial communities» aren't true and do
not follow god.
You claim it isn't the One that Jesus founded yet you fail to tell us which one of the 38000
ecclesial communities is the one.]
Patriarch Bartholomew's first move could be to normalize the canonical standing of the
ecclesial bodies that are presently
not in communion with other Orthodox Churches.
As for the latter, those worried about another Catholic slide into incoherence should have faith in the
ecclesial experience of the last three decades, which has taught enduring lessons about how Catholicism can
not merely survive, but flourish, amidst the cultural acids of post-modernity — if it holds fast to a dynamic orthodoxy lived with compassion and solidarity.
Father Reese writes on Newsweek «s On Faith blog, «The Catholic hierarchy does
not support
ecclesial or state - sponsored homosexual marriage and still argues that sex outside of marriage, including homosexual activity, is sinful.»
All who truly believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord are brothers and sisters in the Lord even though they are
not in full
ecclesial fellowship.
So perhaps one way to move beyond a debilitating polarization in the
ecclesial realm (I dare
not proffer any suggestions regarding the political realm) is for all my fellow dogmatists to aspire to become mystagogues.
Even if younger Catholics are far from unanimous in their support of Weigel's positions, they nonetheless are
not consumed by the theological and
ecclesial power - struggles that have afflicted the American church for the past 40 years.
Ok, Iceman, which of the 30 - 40,000
ecclesial communities that call themselves Christian is Jesus» Church if you think it is
not the Catholic Church?
not anyone from the Catholic Church or
ecclesial communities can claim to be the Bride of Christ.
It might be objected here that one can
not leap from sociological reality to
ecclesial mission: the church is
not called simply to follow sociologists» recipes for institutional growth.
While
not budging on the truth of the encyclical, he decided to tolerate dissent for the sake of
ecclesial unity.
The statement, published in the New York Times and several other newspapers, was intended as «a thoughtful Jewish response» to the «dramatic and unprecedented shift» that has occurred in Jewish - Christian relations,
not only through reformulation of Christian teachings but through explicit
ecclesial statements of remorse on the part of both Catholics and Protestants.
More to the point, the context speaks about confession of faith and love of one another — are these regulative statements or just as conveniently non-binding on you, someone who clearly does
not take much joy in the fact that the bible * instituted *
ecclesial offices?
As I wrote in a book on this entire problem, published in 1997 and entitled The Roman Option, «I do
not believe that the
ecclesial entity that Forward in Faith has created is intended, even by them, as a permanent structure: it is a provisional solution, a desert encampment.»
The Catholic faith is
not just a faith of words,
not just a message,
not just a doctrine nor simply a moral code; it is fullness of life in Christ Jesus, and therefore it is also
ecclesial, liturgical, devotional, Eucharistic.
I am surprised that we have
not given greater room for the new
ecclesial movements in this country.
Though Witte does
not state explicitly that his methodology is shaped by the Protestant principle, he nonetheless proceeds on the assumption that historical Christianity passed over, at least in the West, into the
ecclesial communions that developed out of the Reformation.
Now it takes little reflection to see that most major problems of
ecclesial and political controversy have always been and will continue to be divergent and
not convergent ones; accordingly, there is an especially vexing irony in the fact that those who want to find a «mainstream» position on the Big Issues are almost always those who are committed on other grounds to a pluralist or relativist stance in matters of public debate.
Hence he can, for example, be of the opinion that the Church could give up the indissolubility of sacramental marriage just as well as the
ecclesial form of contracting a marriage, or that she could change the very principles of sexual morality because formerly she took a different authoritative, though
not definitive, view of their application, which will perhaps have to be revised.
It does
not mean that anything has changed in terms of the theological and
ecclesial distance between the Catholic Church and Pentecostal or evangelical
ecclesial bodies.
But this does
not dispense us from making plans, and even in
ecclesial matters it does
not permit us to live from day to day, wanting to hold God responsible for what man has to do.
Theology finds its own nature and becomes truly interesting only when it is
not the personal theology of an individual theologian, but when it is «
ecclesial» theology.
They must lead to the centre of Christianity,
not away from it to petty devotions and similar caricatures of biblical and
ecclesial Christianity.
Indeed, Cobb argues that confessional and creedal consensus is
not essential for the denomination's mission, and he suggests that those who are overly concerned with doctrine are the real heretics who should look elsewhere for
ecclesial homes.
Not only did it recognize the
ecclesial reality of other Christian churches, but it stated explicitly that «whatever is wrought by the grace of the Holy Spirit in the hearts of our separated brethren can contribute to our own edification.»
It is
not sufficient, however, to point out that there are innumerable ministries in the several Christian communities that insist on the objectivity of truth, the authority of Scripture and Spirit - guided interpretation, the
ecclesial means of grace, and the reality of moral good and evil.
Among the Orthodox, according to Catholic doctrine, there are
not just
ecclesial communities but «particular churches,» although they are, in the language of CDF, «wounded» by the lack of full communion with the ministry of Peter exercised by the bishop of Rome.)
In such a view, the boundaries are
not grounded in moral truth or fidelity to
ecclesial vocation but would appear to be merely external limits on the expression of an otherwise amoral therapeutic.
Again, this is
not a matter of boasting or of
ecclesial rivalry, which should have no place among followers of Christ.
If these elements are accepted and enacted by the nine COCU denominations, their separate institutional existence will
not thereby be ended, but the fashioning and functioning of the joints and ligaments of a united
ecclesial body will begin.
It is
not sufficient, however, to point out that there are innumerable ministries in the several Christian communities that insist on the objectivity of truth, the authority of Scripture and its Spirit - guided interpretation, the
ecclesial means of grace, and the reality of moral good and evil.
It is one thing to hold a mild moral objection to a government program; an objection that is peripheral to one's fundamental beliefs and values,
not central; an objection grounded on intuitive preference
not closely tied to one's religious and
ecclesial commitments.
Jacob's Well reveals the theological and
ecclesial fissures
not only in evangelicalism, but in Emergent itself.
Since he is a Methodist and
not a Roman Catholic or Orthodox Christian, he recognizes that this leaves him with some problems of
ecclesial authority.
Christian faith is essentially, and
not just accidentally,
ecclesial.
Christians will always be cultural exiles insofar as Christian Tradition is
not co-extensive with any single culture or any form of
ecclesial existence and thus calls all forms of life into judgment in the light of Christ.
(The latter commitment does
not imply that all
ecclesial traditions or ways of doing church are equal.)
In
Not Every Spirit: A Dogmatics of Christian Disbelief (1994), Morse argues that faithful skepticism is a biblical no less than an
ecclesial imperative.
A standard Protestant objection to Catholic Mariology is that she is
not as important in scripture as she has become in
ecclesial traditions.
Can youth ministry succeed in this if the
ecclesial assembly does
not itself embrace these practices and celebrate them?
Heythrop's overview goes on, «In so far as the formal structure of doctrinal catechesis is
not explicit in Our Faith Story, its
ecclesial mediation represents a more explicitly «person - centred» approach.»
Those of us who have been involved in designing and promoting various models for the process of sustained prophetic inquiry can testify to the general lack of interest of
ecclesial bodies in such ministry: «social action» is by and large out, and, where it is a priority among church leaders, most of its practitioners are concerned with direct action,
not action research.
Earlier Pope John Paul II had said that the Catholic Church is
not suggesting that beyond its visible boundaries there is only an «
ecclesial vacuum» (see the encyclical «That They May Be One»).
We Christians must
not be interested in freedom only in so far as it affects our own religious or even
ecclesial purposes.
The congregation is also available, present to all for entry and inquiry; one need
not seek some more remote or less obvious
ecclesial home.
That ambivalence is
not a factor, of course, with the nearly one - half of adult converts who were never baptized and had no previous
ecclesial affiliation.
Those who come from other
ecclesial communities and enter into full communion with the Catholic Church encounter great joy among some Catholics that they have,
not to put too fine a point on it, «come over to our side.»
Since ALL the Churches ACROSS the spectrum confess an allegiance to the ecumenical creeds [except some radical reformers, but I digress], the definition would certainly
not be creedal or
ecclesial.