Changes in the total solar irradiance (TSI) with enhanced extreme ultraviolet (EUV) emission have been hypothesized to induce a dynamic air /
ocean circulation response resulting from stratospheric ozone production (Lean & Rind 1998).
Not exact matches
Your statement that «Thus it is natural to look at the real world and see whether there is evidence that it behaves in the same way (and it appears to, since model hindcasts of past changes match observations very well)» seems to indicate that you think there will be no changes in
ocean circulation or land use trends, nor any subsequent changes in cloud
responses thereto or other atmospheric
circulation.
Suppose also that — DESPITE THIS STABILIZING MECHANISM some as - yet unknown
ocean circulation cycle operates that is the sole cause of the Holocene centennial scale fluctuations, and that this cycle has reversed and is operating today, yielding a temperature change that happens to mimic what models give in
response to radiative forcing changes.
That's very interesting — I had assumed that the
circulation of the atmosphere and
oceans would be the «globaliser of temperature
response».
Climate scientists would say in
response that changes in
ocean circulation can't sustain a net change in global temperature over such a long period (ENSO for example might raise or lower global temperature on a timescale of one or two years, but over decades there would be roughly zero net change).
Other research is looking into questions about how seamount populations change in
response to climate - induced shifts in
ocean circulation and whether habitats disturbed by human activity can recover.
In this model, enhanced seasonal contrasts through milankovitch forcing (Lourens et al., 2005), combined with a gradually warming late - Paleocene to early Eocene, forced a non-linear
response in
ocean circulation to warm intermediate waters.
eg «These studies provide new insights on the sensitivity and
response of meridional
ocean circulation to melt water inputs to the North Atlantic high latitudes (e.g., Bamberg et al., 2010; Irvali et al., 2012; Morley et al., 2011) and their potential role in amplifying small radiative variations into large a climate
response through dynamic changes in
ocean - atmosphere interactions (e.g., Morely et al., 2011; Irvali et al., 2012; Morley et al., 2014).
Using a complex coupled atmosphere -
ocean general
circulation model (ECHAM5 / MPI - OM) climate
response experiments with enhanced small - scale fluctuations are performed.
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Response: This is basically a shorthand for the overturning
circulation of the
oceans (i.e. what you would see if you were looking at the
oceans side on).
For weather predictions, accuracy disappears within a few weeks — but for
ocean forecasts, accuracy seems to have decadal scale accuracy — and when you go to climate forcing effects, the timescale moves toward centuries, with the big uncertainties being ice sheet dynamics, changes in
ocean circulation and the biosphere
response.
Suppose also that — DESPITE THIS STABILIZING MECHANISM some as - yet unknown
ocean circulation cycle operates that is the sole cause of the Holocene centennial scale fluctuations, and that this cycle has reversed and is operating today, yielding a temperature change that happens to mimic what models give in
response to radiative forcing changes.
Your statement that «Thus it is natural to look at the real world and see whether there is evidence that it behaves in the same way (and it appears to, since model hindcasts of past changes match observations very well)» seems to indicate that you think there will be no changes in
ocean circulation or land use trends, nor any subsequent changes in cloud
responses thereto or other atmospheric
circulation.
There is so little understanding about how the
ocean parses its
response to forcings by 1) suppressing (local convective scale) deep water formation where excessive warming patterns are changed, 2) enhancing (local convective scale) deep water formation where the changed excessive warming patterns are co-located with increased evaporation and increased salinity, and 3) shifting favored deep water formation locations as a result of a) shifted patterns of enhanced warming, b) shifted patterns of enhanced salinity and c) shifted patterns of
circulation which transport these enhanced
ocean features to critically altered destinations.
[
Response: Theoretically you could have a change in
ocean circulation that could cause a drop in global mean temperature even while the total heat content of the climate system increased.
This deep
ocean warming in the model occurred during negative phases of the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation (IPO), an index of the mean state of the north and south Pacific Ocean, and was most likely in response to intensification of the wind - driven ocean circula
ocean warming in the model occurred during negative phases of the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation (IPO), an index of the mean state of the north and south Pacific
Ocean, and was most likely in response to intensification of the wind - driven ocean circula
Ocean, and was most likely in
response to intensification of the wind - driven
ocean circula
ocean circulation.
Levine, X. J., and T. Schneider, 2011:
Response of the Hadley
circulation to climate change in an aquaplanet GCM coupled to a simple representation of
ocean heat transport.
These models suggest that if the net effect of
ocean circulation, water vapour, cloud, and snow feedbacks were zero, the approximate temperature
response to a doubling of carbon dioxide from pre-industrial levels would be a 1oC warming.
We thank Claudia Tebaldi for statistical advice; Stanley Jacobs for discussion of Southern
Ocean circulation; Nathan Gillett for guidance on the transient climate
response to emissions; Mark Merrifield for tidal modeling applied to the Alaskan coast; and Michael Oppenheimer for thoughtful comments on the manuscript.
Bjerknes, 1966: A possible
response of the atmospheric Hadley
circulation to equatorial anomalies of
ocean temperature.
The observed climate is just the equilibrium
response to such variations with the positions of the air
circulation systems and the speed of the hydrological cycle always adjusting to bring energy differentials between all the many
ocean and atmosphere layers back towards equilibrium (Wilde's Law?).
These external ones can affect long - term climate, and things like the MWP and LIA could be
responses to those rather than
ocean circulation changes (most skeptics would not deny this).
In a recent technical comment, Zhang et al. show that
ocean dynamics play a central role in the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), and the previous claims that «the AMO is a thermodynamic
response of the
ocean mixed layer to stochastic atmospheric forcing, and
ocean circulation changes have no role in causing the AMO» are not justified.
I was formerly somewhat skeptical about the notion that the
ocean «conveyor belt»
circulation pattern could weaken abruptly in
response to global warming.
As you doubtless know, polar amplification is driven by
ocean circulation and probably represents a lagged
response to forcing.
Patterns of
ocean and atmosphere
circulation shift in
response to internal climate dynamics and at a rapid pace determined by the dynamics of the system rather than any external factor.
«The authors write that «the notorious tropical bias problem in climate simulations of global coupled general
circulation models manifests itself particularly strongly in the tropical Atlantic,»... they state that «the climate bias problem is still so severe that one of the most basic features of the equatorial Atlantic Ocean — the eastward shoaling thermocline — can not be reproduced by most of the IPCC assessment report models,... as they describe it, «show that the bias in the eastern equatorial Atlantic has a major effect on sea - surface temperature (SST) response to a rapid change in the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AM
circulation models manifests itself particularly strongly in the tropical Atlantic,»... they state that «the climate bias problem is still so severe that one of the most basic features of the equatorial Atlantic
Ocean — the eastward shoaling thermocline — can not be reproduced by most of the IPCC assessment report models,... as they describe it, «show that the bias in the eastern equatorial Atlantic has a major effect on sea - surface temperature (SST)
response to a rapid change in the Atlantic Meridional Overturning
Circulation (AM
Circulation (AMOC).»
Forced Rossby waves occur as a
response of the midtroposhere and high - troposphere atmospheric
circulation to the external diabatic and orographic forcing (25, 39, 40), which arises, e.g., from the thermal contrast between land and
oceans as well as from mountain ranges.
It is not clear that the world is warming post the 1998/2001 climate shift — that involved a climatically significant step change in albedo as a
response to abrupt changes in
ocean and atmospheric
circulation.
Response to Comment on «The Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation without a role for
ocean circulation» (Science)
El Niño is defined by SST anomalies in the eastern tropical Pacific while the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) is a measure of the atmospheric
circulation response in the Pacific - Indian
Ocean region.
The advantage of recognising a reversed sign for the solar effect high up in the atmosphere is that it enables a scenario whereby the bottom up effects of
ocean cycles and the top down effects of solar variability can be seen to be engaged in a complex ever changing dance with the primary climate
response being changes in the tropospheric air
circulation systems to give us the observed natural climate variability via cyclical latitudinal shifts in all the air
circulation systems and notably the jet streams.
The
response of atmospheric CO2 and climate to the reconstructed variability in solar irradiance and radiative forcing by volcanoes over the last millennium is examined by applying a coupled physical — biogeochemical climate model that includes the Lund - Potsdam - Jena dynamic global vegetation model (LPJ - DGVM) and a simplified analogue of a coupled atmosphere —
ocean general
circulation model.
Clouds change in
response to changes in
ocean and atmosphere
circulation - part of the natural variability of the system.
Steven Mosher: When you can match things like sea surface salt and
ocean circulation, and
ocean acidification with the model, when you find a force which can produce the kind of near instaneous
response that you need, then you are onto something.
Some examples from energy balance model calculations indicate that: (1) solar variability has a near - global
response, with the amplitude of
response slightly larger over land; (2) volcanism has a proportionately larger amplitude of
response over land than over
ocean; and (3) the most oft - cited mode of internal variability, changes in the North Atlantic thermohaline
circulation, has a hemispheric asymmetry in
response.
Changes in near - coastal
circulation or biochemistry seem to be altering surface
ocean pH more quickly than can be explained by an equilibrium
response to the rising atmospheric CO2 concentration (Wootton and Pfister, 2012).
There is an «almost immediate»
response, atmospheric with the roughly 90 day lag, then there is a roughly 27 month lagged
response, that would be coupled atmosphere /
ocean response related to the QBO, then there is a roughly 8.5 to 10 year
response, that would be
ocean basin
circulation related.
Furthermore, the statistical methodology that is used to estimate the model can successfully recover the values for the transient climate
response from temperature simulations generated by the coupled atmosphere -
ocean general
circulation models run for CMIP (26).
It includes results from a variety of different empirical approaches, including (1) time series analyses of the published temperature record; (2) examination of the
response of the earth's outgoing radiation
response to transient climate events; (3) calorimetric studies of the
ocean - atmosphere system; (4) mechanisms for secular climate change arising from
ocean circulation systems and astronomical influences; and (4) radiative and convective heat transfer in the
oceans and atmosphere.
Climate scientists would say in
response that changes in
ocean circulation can't sustain a net change in global temperature over such a long period (ENSO for example might raise or lower global temperature on a timescale of one or two years, but over decades there would be roughly zero net change).
Sun, S., and R. Bleck, 2001: Atlantic thermohaline
circulation and its
response to increasing CO2 in a coupled atmosphere -
ocean model.
Atmosphere -
Ocean General
Circulation Models also tend to simulate less intense ENSO events, in qualitative agreement with data, although there are large differences in magnitude and proposed mechanisms, and inconsistent
responses of the associated teleconnections (Otto - Bliesner, 1999; Liu et al., 2000; Kitoh and Murakami, 2002; Otto - Bliesner et al., 2003).
Understanding the climate distribution and forcing for the Pliocene period may help improve predictions of the likely
response to increased CO2 in the future, including the ultimate role of the
ocean circulation in a globally warmer world.
The US AMOC Program, now in its ninth year, was developed as a US interagency program to increase understanding of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning
Circulation in
response to the fourth near - term priority of the SOST
Ocean Research Priorities Plan.
9.3.1 Global Mean
Response 9.3.1.1 1 % / yr CO2 increase (CMIP2) experiments 9.3.1.2 Projections of future climate from forcing scenario experiments (IS92a) 9.3.1.3 Marker scenario experiments (SRES) 9.3.2 Patterns of Future Climate Change 9.3.2.1 Summary 9.3.3 Range of Temperature Response to SRES Emission Scenarios 9.3.3.1 Implications for temperature of stabilisation of greenhouse gases 9.3.4 Factors that Contribute to the Response 9.3.4.1 Climate sensitivity 9.3.4.2 The role of climate sensitivity and ocean heat uptake 9.3.4.3 Thermohaline circulation changes 9.3.4.4 Time - scales of response 9.3.5 Changes in Variability 9.3.5.1 Intra-seasonal variability 9.3.5.2 Interannual variability 9.3.5.3 Decadal and longer time - scale variability 9.3.5.4 Summary 9.3.6 Changes of Extreme Events 9.3.6.1 Temperature 9.3.6.2 Precipitation and convection 9.3.6.3 Extra-tropical storms 9.3.6.4 Tropical cyclones 9.3.6.5 Commentary on changes in extremes of weather and climate 9.3.6.6 Con
Response 9.3.1.1 1 % / yr CO2 increase (CMIP2) experiments 9.3.1.2 Projections of future climate from forcing scenario experiments (IS92a) 9.3.1.3 Marker scenario experiments (SRES) 9.3.2 Patterns of Future Climate Change 9.3.2.1 Summary 9.3.3 Range of Temperature
Response to SRES Emission Scenarios 9.3.3.1 Implications for temperature of stabilisation of greenhouse gases 9.3.4 Factors that Contribute to the Response 9.3.4.1 Climate sensitivity 9.3.4.2 The role of climate sensitivity and ocean heat uptake 9.3.4.3 Thermohaline circulation changes 9.3.4.4 Time - scales of response 9.3.5 Changes in Variability 9.3.5.1 Intra-seasonal variability 9.3.5.2 Interannual variability 9.3.5.3 Decadal and longer time - scale variability 9.3.5.4 Summary 9.3.6 Changes of Extreme Events 9.3.6.1 Temperature 9.3.6.2 Precipitation and convection 9.3.6.3 Extra-tropical storms 9.3.6.4 Tropical cyclones 9.3.6.5 Commentary on changes in extremes of weather and climate 9.3.6.6 Con
Response to SRES Emission Scenarios 9.3.3.1 Implications for temperature of stabilisation of greenhouse gases 9.3.4 Factors that Contribute to the
Response 9.3.4.1 Climate sensitivity 9.3.4.2 The role of climate sensitivity and ocean heat uptake 9.3.4.3 Thermohaline circulation changes 9.3.4.4 Time - scales of response 9.3.5 Changes in Variability 9.3.5.1 Intra-seasonal variability 9.3.5.2 Interannual variability 9.3.5.3 Decadal and longer time - scale variability 9.3.5.4 Summary 9.3.6 Changes of Extreme Events 9.3.6.1 Temperature 9.3.6.2 Precipitation and convection 9.3.6.3 Extra-tropical storms 9.3.6.4 Tropical cyclones 9.3.6.5 Commentary on changes in extremes of weather and climate 9.3.6.6 Con
Response 9.3.4.1 Climate sensitivity 9.3.4.2 The role of climate sensitivity and
ocean heat uptake 9.3.4.3 Thermohaline
circulation changes 9.3.4.4 Time - scales of
response 9.3.5 Changes in Variability 9.3.5.1 Intra-seasonal variability 9.3.5.2 Interannual variability 9.3.5.3 Decadal and longer time - scale variability 9.3.5.4 Summary 9.3.6 Changes of Extreme Events 9.3.6.1 Temperature 9.3.6.2 Precipitation and convection 9.3.6.3 Extra-tropical storms 9.3.6.4 Tropical cyclones 9.3.6.5 Commentary on changes in extremes of weather and climate 9.3.6.6 Con
response 9.3.5 Changes in Variability 9.3.5.1 Intra-seasonal variability 9.3.5.2 Interannual variability 9.3.5.3 Decadal and longer time - scale variability 9.3.5.4 Summary 9.3.6 Changes of Extreme Events 9.3.6.1 Temperature 9.3.6.2 Precipitation and convection 9.3.6.3 Extra-tropical storms 9.3.6.4 Tropical cyclones 9.3.6.5 Commentary on changes in extremes of weather and climate 9.3.6.6 Conclusions
For the ice sheets the answer is probably no (but experts on the subject might have a better idea), but for the overturning
circulation or the ecosystem changes, the answer is probably yes — i.e. a slower rate of warming could lead to a different
response (allowing time for
ocean mixing to mitigate the effects, or adaptation of species to the new conditions).
Here, we present an explanation for time - invariant land — sea warming ratio that applies if three conditions on radiative forcing are met: first, spatial variations in the climate forcing must be sufficiently small that the lower free troposphere warms evenly over land and
ocean; second, the temperature
response must not be large enough to change the global
circulation to zeroth order; third, the temperature
response must not be large enough to modify the boundary layer amplification mechanisms that contribute to making φ exceed unity.
When a full - depth
ocean model is used, something intriguing happens: the loss of Arctic sea ice triggers a far - flung
response that mimics climate change itself, including a slowdown of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning
Circulation (AMOC), a build - up of heat in the tropical
oceans over several decades, and a warming of the atmosphere a few miles above the tropics.
Rencurrel, M.C. * and B.E.J. Rose, Understanding the Hadley
circulation response to wide variations in
ocean heat transport.