Never mind that
the ocean pH levels vary wildly in different places, and those variations, some larger than the fear mongers claim will be catastrophic, can take place on times scales as small as a few hours, to days, weeks, months, and years.
And for this to become a reality, it means that a demonstrable and consistent decline in sea /
ocean pH levels should be evident since the beginning of the industrial age.
Feely, and his coauthor Dr. Christopher L. Sabine, PMEL Director, omitted 80 years of data, which incorporate more than 2 million records of
ocean pH levels.
Studies show that estimated changes in
ocean pH levels are within the ranges experienced in the past.
Just like the theory at CO2 regulates
ocean pH levels, there is a shocking lack of evidence that such things actually happen, just an unsupported theory that looks nice on paper, but no evidence that it makes a difference.
Some of us might think that if anything here is «dishonest» it's trying to turn a discussion on the subject of the effect of changes to
ocean pH levels into a discussion about semantics.
Ocean pH levels dropping a corresponding staggering rate.
We still don't know the lethal and sublethal tolerances of deep sea stony corals to changing
ocean pH levels.
The IPCC says that
the ocean pH level has declined 0.1 since the beginning of the industrial era.
Not exact matches
They experience
pH levels that are predicted for the open
ocean later.
At a global
level, the excess of atmospheric CO2 is absorbed by
ocean waters and it causes changes in water chemistry (
pH decrease or
ocean acidification).
Their findings suggest that maintaining native seawater vegetation could locally lessen the acidifying effects of rising CO2
levels on marine animals who are sensitive to
ocean pH, which has declined since preindustrial times.
Taylor and her colleagues also tested water temperature and
pH levels in the laboratory to study the impact of
ocean warming and acidification on the exoskeletons of several species of crustacean.
Survival of Dungeness crab larvae, called zoeae, declined at the lower
pH levels expected with
ocean acidification.
A new study found that vulnerability of deep - sea biodiversity to climate change's triple threat — rising water temperatures, and decreased oxygen, and
pH levels — is not uniform across the world's
oceans.
You can't track that
level of detail with litmus paper —
pH is one of the hardest
ocean parameters to measure.
Two groups of urchins were held at different
pH levels — one that was low
pH, akin to
ocean acidification conditions, and another that mimicked normal non-upwelling
pH conditions.
Increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere boosts, by gas - liquid equilibrium, the amount of carbonic acid in the
ocean, which in turn lowers the marine
pH level.
And measurements of the
pH level in the
ocean over the past two decades show precisely the slow reduction that is expected from such a rise in carbon dioxide.
Gregoire created the panel earlier this year to examine the implications of dropping
pH levels in seawater, a trend caused by the
ocean's absorption of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
An international team of 27 oceanographers churned through 13 global models and concluded that carbon dioxide emissions could cause
pH levels in the
ocean to drop from an average of 8.1 today to 7.7 by the end of the century.
These videos produced by Plymouth Marine Laboratory provide information about
ocean acidification and raises awareness of the implications associated with increasing
levels of carbon dioxide and changes in seawater
pH levels.
Ocean pH is projected to drop an additional 0.4
pH units by 2100 under a high CO2 emission scenario, ref with carbonate saturation
levels potentially falling below those required to sustain coral reef accretion.
A new study of a 600 - mile span of coastline found some of the lowest
pH levels ever measured on the
ocean surface... Read More
This «acidification» of global
oceans is observed as lower
pH levels.
Therefore, there is, as yet, no robust evidence for realized severe disruptions of marine socioecological links from
ocean acidification to anthropogenic CO2, and there are significant uncertainties regarding the
level of
pH change that would prompt such impacts.
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[Response: I don't recall his paper at this
level of detail but the Arctic sea ice and the coral reefs are already being hurt, although in the case of corals they're also impacted by local pollution and fishing and
ocean pH. So it makes sense to me that a target CO2 with respect to these issues might be lower than the number that stuck in my head from his paper, 350 ppm.
We present a large - scale Southern
Ocean observational analysis that examines the seasonal magnitude and variability CO32 − and
pH. Our analysis shows an intense wintertime minimum in CO32 − south of the Antarctic Polar Front and when combined with anthropogenic CO2 uptake is likely to induce aragonite undersaturation when atmospheric CO2
levels reach ≈ 450 ppm.»
From preindustrial
levels, contemporary surface
ocean pH is estimated to have dropped on average from 8.2 to 8.1, or by about 0.1
pH units (a 26 % increase in hydrogen ion concentration), and further decreases of 0.22 to 0.35
pH units are projected over this century unless carbon dioxide emissions are significantly reduced (Orr et al., 2005; Bopp et al., 2013).
From preindustrial
levels, contemporary surface
ocean pH is estimated to have dropped on average from 8.2 to 8.1, or by about 0.1
pH units (a 26 % increase in hydrogen ion concentration), and further decreases of 0.22 to 0.35
pH units are projected over this century unless carbon dioxide emissions are significantly reduced.
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Regarding CO2 and half anthr emission being in the atmosphere, please usderstand that all of it goes into the atmosphere but only half of it stays, the rest goes mostly into the
oceans lowering its
pH levels in a phenomenon known as
ocean acidification.
55a «Within a few centuries the
ocean pH may reach a
level not seen for hundreds of millions of years, and within the present century many organisms are likely to be affected» is the authoritative conclusion of Denman et al. (2007).
This, in the face of the EPA and NOAA having official information placing the world's
oceans» overall
pH level not on the acid side of the scale where vinegar is, but on the alkaline side.
It is true that salinity,
pH levels, chemical conversions, and the diffusion rate of POC to the bottom of the
oceans can affect Henry's law and the uptake of atmospheric CO2, but do we know how much by?
The CO2 would significantly warm the Earth; it might also lower
ocean pH, raise sea
levels significantly and change rainfall patterns.
The evidence being that CO2
levels are rising at a rate that is possibly unprecedented in Earth's history coupled with the strong impacts CO2 has on several Earth systems (the greenhouse effect and surface
ocean pH being just two).
Directly there's it being a strong greenhouse gas and impacting
ocean pH. Beyond that other things get affected indirectly too (eg sea
level rise from the warming caused by the strong greenhouse effect, carbonate issues with rising
ocean pH).
In addition, they indicate that «a lack of developmental deformities at early stages for pCO2 ~ 1000 ppm has been previously reported for this species...» And they say «there are even reports that survival is increased in this species and its congener S. droebachiensis under some low
pH conditions...»... conclude, that «the effects of small magnitude in these urchin larvae are indicative of a potential resilience to near - future
levels of
ocean acidification.»»
The mollusk periostracum has allowed them to colonize the acidic depths of
ocean floors, colonize freshwater lakes and streams where
pH falls to truly acidic
levels below 6.0, and to colonize the flanks of submerged volcanoes where escaping CO2 naturally lowers the
pH between 7.3 and 5.39.
The correlation between rising
levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (red) with rising carbon dioxide
levels (blue) and falling
pH in the
ocean (green).
Thus the
pH level of the
ocean surface layer is not the same thing as the total CO2 dissolved by the
oceans.
For example across the tropical
ocean, the ratio of net calcification to net photosynthesis for coccolithophores remained constant despite regions of widely varying surface
pH and calcite saturation
levels (Maranon 2016).
And what is actually even more alarming is the CO2 discharged into our
oceans which changes the acidity (
ph balance) of the water, and this is already having disastrous results in the seafood industry because oysters can not form their shells naturally due to the acidic
levels from the excessive CO2.
The carbon in the
oceans converts into carbonic acid, which lowers
pH levels and makes the water acidic.
We know at a useful
level, what has happened to the surface
ocean as the relationship between the
pH value, carbon content and temperature is well known (the determination is not very accurate, but still quite satisfactory).
At current emissions trends, average
pH of the
oceans would drop from about 8.1 (current
levels) to at least 7.9 in about 100 years (NRC, 2011a).22 A similar change occurred over the 200,000 years leading up to the end - Permian mass extinction, which resulted in loss of an estimated ~ 90 percent or more of known species (Chen and Benton, 2012; Knoll et al., 2007).
Given Henry's gas law (50:1 ratio of
ocean / air CO2 concentrations), when atmospheric CO2
levels were 2,000 ppm, there were roughly 192,500 gigatons of CO2 dissolved in the
oceans or 154,000 GTs more than now and the
oceans were still alkaline (around 7.6
pH) and teaming with life.
As for «contemporary surface
ocean pH»
levels, I wonder how long it will be before we learn just how little actual information goes into this «estimate,» and how the «data» are adjusted.