These data represent
ocean skin temperature (Section 3.2.2.3), not air temperature or SST, and so must be adjusted to match the latter.
Minnett & Kaiser - Weiss GHRSST 12 - Jan - 2012 has a graph of
ocean skin temperature variation.
The net forcing is negative as the effective temperature of the clear and cloudy sky is less than
the ocean skin temperature, and it approaches values closer to zero when the sky is cloudy.
This is very encouraging for the future application of measurements from sea - going spectral radiometers, as instruments not only for the validation of satellite - derived SST but also for studying the physics of
the ocean skin temperature layer.
Not exact matches
So the mechanism should cause a decline in
skin temperature gradients with increased cloud cover (more downward heat radiation), and there should also be a decline in the difference between cool
skin layer and
ocean bulk
temperatures - as less heat escapes the
ocean under increased atmospheric warming.
Increased warming of the cool
skin layer (via increased greenhouse gases) lowers its
temperature gradient (that is the
temperature difference between the top and bottom of the layer), and this reduces the rate at which heat flows out of the
ocean to the atmosphere.
Kevin, even with greater evaporation, when one considers all the energy fluxes into and out of the
ocean cool
skin layer, as long as the change in net energy flux causes the cool
skin to warm, the
temperature gradient between the cool
skin layer and the bulk
ocean below it will decrease.
The rate of flow of heat out of the
ocean is determined by the
temperature gradient in the «cool
skin layer», which resides within the thin viscous surface layer of
ocean that is in contact with the atmosphere.
Because of their effect on lowering the
temperature gradient of the cool
skin layer, increased levels of greenhouse gases lead to more heat being stored in the
oceans over the long - term.
The rate of flow of heat out of the
ocean is determined by the
temperature gradient in the «cool
skin layer»
The
temperature difference between the
skin and first few meters of
ocean is greater.
Experimental evidence for this mechanism can be seen in at - sea measurements of the
ocean skin and bulk
temperatures.
Long waves (infrared) light from the sun, GHGs, clouds, are trapped at the surface of the
oceans, directly leading to increased «
skin»
temperature, more water vapor (a very effective GHG), faster convection (with more loss of heat to space in the tropics),... How each of them converts to real regional / global
temperature increases / decreases is another point of discussion...
Thus, if the absorption of the infrared emission from atmospheric greenhouse gases reduces the gradient through the
skin layer, the flow of heat from the
ocean beneath will be reduced, leaving more of the heat introduced into the bulk of the upper oceanic layer by the absorption of sunlight to remain there to increase water
temperature.
Since the assumption in the original post seems to be that the
ocean is warmer than the atmosphere, it would be nice to state this at the beginning, even before explaining
skin temperatures and gradients.
There is good evidence that the answer to both these question is no: (The insensitivy of the results to methodology of selecting rural stations, the Parker et al windy days study, and the fact that data from satellite
skin surface measurements, from sea surface
temperatures, deep
ocean temps as we as tropospheric temps are all in good agreement).
If I extend the physics regarding an earlier post by the kind folks here regrading the
skin effect of the
temperature inversion layer on the calm sea as preventing the transfere of the heat content of the top of the
ocean back into space; If I add in the NOAA 0 Deg.
re inline comment on 24, What I noted was that the
ocean skin equilibrium referenced in RC 5 Sept 06 could be influenced by variations in
ocean currents and the cryosphere to affect atmospheric
temperature on the scale of decades.
Aaron Lewis @ 24 — «What I noted was that the
ocean skin equilibrium referenced in RC 5 Sept 06 could be influenced by variations in
ocean currents and the cryosphere to affect atmospheric
temperature on the scale of decades»
If the DLR decreases, the
temperature gradient between the surface
skin and bulk increases, and more heat flows from the
ocean depths to the surface where it is radiated away.
Nice misconception you have going there but the real argument is that CO2 can lower the
temperature gradient of the cool
skin layer, which slows the heat loss to the atmosphere and increased levels of greenhouse gases lead to more heat being stored in the
oceans over the long - term.
And this why
ocean surface
skin temperature is near the same
temperature as the air above it.
temperature: 1,000 m depth
temperature = 5C thermal conductivity of seawater 0.58 W / mK
ocean - air interface = 17.000 C 1.441 mm depth
temperature = 17.400 C (the warmest spot in the
ocean depth though the «few metres» of depth below it is only a miniscule bit colder, all warmed by Sun SWR) this top 1.441 mm depth is the «
skin» and «sub-
skin» 100m depth
temperature certain in range 16.090 C to 17.400 C but virtually certain > 17C because of mixing top ~ 90m
temperature gradient of top 1.441 mm of
ocean is 277.6 Celsius / metre By conductivity,
temperature gradient pushes 161.00 w / m ** 2 up from 1.441 mm depth to
ocean - air interface which precisely removes the Sun's 161 w / m ** 2 going into the top few metres depth and leads to no
ocean warming.
These two mechanisms are so strongly dependent on the
temperature difference between the
ocean surface ant the atmosphere that the net influence on the
skin temperature and on the net heat transfer between the
ocean and the atmosphere is negligible.
But look at earth's
oceans in terms of heat capacity, the
oceans dwarf the atmosphere as atmosphere dwarf ground
skin temperatures.
The warmer
skin then alters the
temperature profile just below the surface and reduces the normal flow of energy from
ocean to air.
One effect among many is to reduce the
temperature gradient within the
skin layer of the
ocean and hence reduce the rate of cooling of the upper mixed layer (the first few meters of which are warmed by the Sun) to the atmosphere and also, radiatively, through the atmospheric infrared window, directly to space.
It is not «conduction» but exchange of radiation; if you keep your hands parallel at a distance of some cm the right hand does not (radiatively) «warm» the left hand or vice versa albeit at 33 °C
skin temperature they exchange some hundreds of W / m ² (about 500 W / m ²) The solar radiation reaching the surface (for 71 % of the surface, the
oceans) is lost by evaporation (or evapotranspiration of the vegetation), plus some convection (20 W / ²) and some radiation reaching the cosmos directly through the window 8µm to 12 µm (about 20 W / m ² «global» average); only the radiative heat flow surface to air (absorbed by the air) is negligible (plus or minus); the non radiative (latent heat, sensible heat) are transferred for surface to air and compensate for a part of the heat lost to the cosmos by the upper layer of the water vapour displayed on figure 6 - C.
The analyses of SST described here all estimate the sub-surface bulk
temperature, (i.e. the
temperature in the first few metres of the
ocean) not the
skin temperature.
Since the satellite era, satellite measurements of
ocean skin surface
temperature have supplemented the other technologies, and continue to demonstrate the upward trends.
Answer to off topic: Without spending too much time on the post you quote, I think they are talking of
temperature differences between the
skin surface of the
ocean, the one that enters the stephan boltzman equation, and 5cms below.
CMIP5 variable «ts «is surface
temperature, stated to be SST for the open
ocean and
skin temperature elsewhere.
If anyone can overcome that conundrum to increase the
temperature of both
ocean bulk and
ocean skin simultaneously from incoming DLR photons then I'd like to hear the explanation.
If we have a
temperature gradient of 0.1 - 1.0 degK, energy fluxes of this magnitude can travel the last millimeter to the
skin layer of the
ocean by conduction alone (and escape to the atmosphere).
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/09/why-greenhouse-gases-heat-the-
ocean/ If you look at the data in Figure 2 of the RealClimate post (and ignore their discussion), what happens to the DIFFERENCE between the
temperature of the
ocean skin and water immediately below?
You're probably referring to the Minnett experiment here (but please enlighten me if you're not) and the
skin layer heats up relative to the
temperature of the
ocean 5 cm below it, not as an absolute independent to the rest of the
ocean.
Therefore AGW could be correct in that a warmer SST (
skin) reduces upward energy floiw from below to increase
ocean bulk
temperatures.
If you look at the data in Figure 2 of the RealClimate post (and ignore their discussion), what happens to the DIFFERENCE between the
temperature of the
ocean skin and water immediately below?
Back radiation can only heat the
ocean if the air
temperature is warmer than the surface
skin temperature (back radiation will contribute to the downward energy flux in all cases, but heat transfer, which is the net energy flow, always goes from hot to cold).
When
temperature of the
skin layer becomes higher than the
temperature 5 cm below then we have the heat flow down (the daytime regime) while at night the
temperature of the
skin layer becomes less than that 5 cm below and the
ocean loses energy to the air.
Since DLR doesn't change
SKIN TEMPERATURE relative to bulk temperature, extra DLR is not lost by radiation and evaporation — it indirectly warms the bulk of
TEMPERATURE relative to bulk
temperature, extra DLR is not lost by radiation and evaporation — it indirectly warms the bulk of
temperature, extra DLR is not lost by radiation and evaporation — it indirectly warms the bulk of the
ocean.
At present we only have evidence of
SKIN and
ocean BULK
temperatures.
And as long as the
temperature of the
ocean skin layer is higher than that of the air layer, the net heat flow will go from the
ocean skin layer in the direction to the air layer.
The emissivity and absorptivity of the
ocean are set to 1, there are no
ocean currents, the atmosphere doesn't heat up and cool down with the
ocean surface, the solar radiation value doesn't change through the year, the top layer was 5 mm not 1μm, the cooler
skin layer was not modeled, a number of isothermal layers is unphysical compared with the real
ocean of continuously varying
temperatures..
This cooling effect is by measurement enormously more important to
ocean temperature (
skin or otherwise) than any IR effect.
i) The
temperature effect of more DLR is from the
ocean skin upwards and does not involve an increase in the
temperature of the
ocean bulk.
They have only measured the
temperature of the
skin layer and a point 5 cm down in the
ocean bulk.
As many climate scientists note in their papers, the relevant sea surface
temperature for heat transfer between
ocean and atmosphere is the very surface, the
skin temperature.
The other 23 W / m ^ 2 is due to the
temperature difference between the
skin of the
ocean and the atmosphere with which it exchanges photons.
Yet it is the
temperature of that layer that the sensors interpret as a surface warming notwithstanding the further cooling of the
ocean skin below it.