As the Apostle Paul so clearly demonstrates in Romans 7, this dichotomy
of flesh and spirit becomes evident when we find ourselves desiring to do what we know is right, while simultaneously being deeply tempted to do what we know is wrong and unhealthy.
In one of the most controversial scenes in Martin Scorsese's landmark examination of the duality
of flesh and spirit, The Last Temptation of Christ, Jesus (Willem Dafoe) speaks to Judas (Harvey Keitel) after addressing a fanatical crowd out for blood.
5:25 is the conclusion of the whole section 5:16 ff., and that it takes for granted the trans - subjective antithesis
of flesh and Spirit.
In the voice of Mary Magdalen it offers a strong critique of the separation
of flesh and spirit: «All loves are bodily, require / that the lips part, and press their trace / of secrecy upon the one / beloved...» The poem notes «the damage Greek / has wrought upon your tongue.»
Drawing on this Pauline thought and vocabulary in the immediate post-apostolic era St. Irenaeus wrote: «Christ recapitulates in himself the orders
of the flesh and the spirit.»
The Pauline uses
of flesh and spirit to connote life orientation contrasts the quality of life lived «in the Spirit» with a life lived in bondage to the fear of death.
A kenotic Word acts or moves by reversing the forms
of flesh and Spirit.
Here the implication is that such an interpenetration
of flesh and spirit takes place that the marriage relationship constitutes what Karl Barth called «a full communion of life.»
Our glory and shame is that we are entangled in the oppositions
of flesh and spirit, sin and salvation, this world and the next.
In sexual communion, the spiritual happiness in each other and in God, as well as the total joy
of flesh and spirit of the spouses, is meant to be taken up in a common joy unto God.
Not exact matches
Some
of us «born - again» Christians can't «fathom» cigarettes... «That which is born
of the
flesh is
flesh; that which is born
of the
Spirit is spirit»... CPT Roy G. Moore was my commanding officer in Vietnam in the 504th MP Bn, 188 MP Co. at Camp David Land, near DaNang over 40 years ago and single - handedly apprehended a buddy of mine who had just tried to kill th
Spirit is
spirit»... CPT Roy G. Moore was my commanding officer in Vietnam in the 504th MP Bn, 188 MP Co. at Camp David Land, near DaNang over 40 years ago and single - handedly apprehended a buddy of mine who had just tried to kill th
spirit»... CPT Roy G. Moore was my commanding officer in Vietnam in the 504th MP Bn, 188 MP Co. at Camp David Land, near DaNang over 40 years ago
and single - handedly apprehended a buddy
of mine who had just tried to kill the 1SG.
Read Revelations
and look this up *
Spirit to be poured out on all
flesh (Joel 2:28) * Universal apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:1 - 4) * The watering down
of the gospel, teaching the doctrines
of man rather than those
of God.
Finally, consider the words
of Jesus as he explained being born again to Nicodemus, John 3:6, «That which is born
of the
flesh is
flesh;
and that which is born
of the
Spirit is spirit.&
Spirit is
spirit.&
spirit.»
Another example is the conflict that is within us daily to deny the
flesh and mind the things
of the
spirit.
Correct 1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the
flesh, but quickened by the
Spirit: 1 Pet 3:19 By which also he went
and preached unto the
spirits in prison; 1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering
of God waited in the days
of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
They are revealed by God's historical
and dialogical self - revelation by words
and deeds,
and in the fullness
of time by God's eternal Son becoming
flesh in a certain time
and space
of history; in church history under the guidance
of the Holy
Spirit they have to be witnessed to
and developed through the living tradition (see the dogmatic constitution Dei Verbum, 2, 8).
Maximus the Confessor interprets this event as a moment in which the disciples passed from
flesh to
spirit because «having both their bodily
and spiritual senses purified, they were taught the spiritual meanings
of the mysteries that were shown to them.»
If a
spirit is a being without a body (See Luke 24:39), why do Mormons teach that God the Father has a body
of flesh and bones?
I believe in being respectful
of others who disagree with me, but the
Spirit of God inspires me to defend his first commandment, that a man
and woman shall be one
flesh,
and be fruitful, multiply,
and replenish the earth.
In God, His Word, His Son, His
Spirit, His people... etc Now, I am well aware
of the continual struggle between
flesh and Spirit even within my self.
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course
of this world, according to the prince
of the power
of the air, the
spirit that now worketh in the children
of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts
of our
flesh, fulfilling the desires
of the
flesh and of the mind;
and were by nature the children
of wrath, even as others.
At Joel 2, God says: «after that it must occur that I shall pour out my
spirit on every sort
of flesh,
and your sons
and your daughters will certainly prophesy.»
It is understood that the sōma has parts, some physical (bones,
flesh, blood), some spiritual (soul,
spirit),
and some psychological (emotions, intellect, will, personality), but the word does not refer to just one
of these parts, such as the physical, but to the entire person.
I know that some people point to passages like 1 John 4:1 which says that Christians are to discern the
spirits to see whether or not they are from God,
and the text goes on to say that «any
spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the
flesh is
of God,
and every
spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the
flesh is not
of God» (1 John 4:2 - 3).
The concept
of once saved always saved takes a bit to get your head around but Gods grace is greater than our sin
and greater than our good works it just takes faith in Jesus Christ to recieve Gods grace.In saying that to continue to sin as a christian is like playing with fire you will be burnt.Paul talks
of the sexual immorality in corinthian church
of the son
and father that were sleeping with the same wife they were excommunicated from the church the members were not allowed to even eat with them until they repented.There are consequences for our actions.The other side to this is that if you continue to sin as a christian you are not walking by faith but walking by the
flesh and are really backsliding.In the backslidden state you also become powerless
and open to attack by satan as long as we walk in the
flesh he can influence us to get worse not better.If we are walking in Christ satan may still try to tempt us but we are empowered by the holy
spirit and overcome him
and our faith increases.Both are saved by grace but one is powerless because
of sin versus saved but an overcomer having been set free from sin i think this is what Paul was trying to explain.It is better to be an overcomer than overcome by sin.brentnz
1 John 4:3 —
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist
And every
spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the
flesh is not
of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist
and this is that
spirit of antichrist...
That was a very interesting read many comments caught my attention I've recently been diagnosed with Bipolar I have hallucinations
and hear voices in my ear's when I hallucinate it's likes they are trying to get me thousands
of them I can only describe them as dark shadows
and they are trying to get me just as they are about to get me a brilliant white light surrounds me
and there's three entities humanly shaped but like this brilliant white light they are also glowing this brilliant whiteness I can't understand what they are saying the only way I can explain it is emotions comfort joy love is what I feel emanating from these entities the voices I hear aren't evil telling me to do bad things to people when I get put into a mode
of fear I live in a rough area
of Scotland
and everytime I've got into a fight something possesses me I know this for a fact as I can't control myself I'm an observer watching my family / Friends say I change they say my eyes change
and I look evil I personally do think possibly through my own personal experience I» am possessed as I act out
of character I've lost interest in many things I've recently I decided it's time for change I've lost my faith I've been trying to connect with God
and feel his love which I used to feel the presence
of the holy
spirit everytime I try connect I get a feeling
of abandonment I just think if I am possessed could these entities stop me connecting with «God» I can say from my heart
of hearts «JESUS CHRIST HAS COME IN THE
FLESH» I think it's more to do with the persons own personal fears which I have noticed my fears have changed if I had to be truthfully with myself I fear God which I know I'm not supposed to just I can't explain it I guess if you ever need a test subject I'm up for the challenge like I said I'm on journey to find myself
and my travels have brought me hear I'm going to hang around for a wee while there's lots
of good information to be plundered loll
You do not have this peace,
and you do not have freedom, but rather, you remain in bondage to the
flesh, void
of the
Spirit of God.
To the glory
of God the Father, Son
and Holy
Spirit we commit this work, to the protection
and prayers
of the Mother
of the Word made
flesh we commend it.
Metropolitan Theoleptos writes, «The vanquishing
of the
flesh secures the victory
of the soul
and the reasonable distress
of the body can bring forth an outpouring
of joy for the
spirit.»
«For we are not fighting against
flesh -
and - blood enemies, but against evil rulers
and authorities
of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world,
and against evil
spirits in the heavenly places.»
At the word
of God the scattered bones come together
and clothe themselves with
flesh and skin,
and at the blast
of a great wind (which is the breath, or
spirit,
of God) the dead bodies come alive, «an exceeding great army».
We do have many responsibilities as Christians We are to walk in the
Spirit and not fulfill the lusts
of the
flesh.
as representing the seat
of sin, some at once suspect the influence
of Hellenism, with its immaterial, pure
spirit on one side
and its material, sinful
flesh on the other.
The Air you breath is One
of the HOLYSPIRIT forms so ALL you have done in secret saying no one can see or hear me, HE has
and HE is also known as the
SPIRIT of TRUTH, all you religious leaders had time to repent for your sins against JESUS since 2005 you know when GOD THE FATHER exposed HIM in the
flesh on Earth, the door is shut.
I also think that we've been given the Holy
Spirit through Jesus
and the fruits
of the
Spirit taste like paradise to me
and I am satisfied to eat His
flesh and Drink His blood to be one with His body... which seems to be both
Spirit and flesh as He reunites the dead
and the living.
You can sin,
and your
flesh enjoy it, but then afterwards the separation
of that fellowship with the
Spirit is felt
and it is so awful.
Rich with the sap
of the world, I rise up towards the
Spirit whose vesture is the magnificence
of the material universe but who smiles at me from far beyond all victories;
and, lost in the mystery
of the
flesh of God, I can not tell which is the more radiant bliss: to have found the Word
and so be able to achieve the mastery
of matter, or to have mastered matter
and so be able to attain
and submit to the light
of God.
Because, my God, though I lack the soul - zeal
and the sublime integrity
of your saints, I yet have received from you an overwhelming sympathy for all that stirs within the dark mass
of matter; because I know myself to be irremediably less a child
of heaven than a son
of earth; therefore I will this morning climb up in
spirit to the high places, bearing with me the hopes
and the miseries
of my mother;
and there — empowered by that priesthood which you alone (as I firmly believe) have bestowed on me — upon all that in the world
of human
flesh is now about to be born or to die beneath the rising sun I will call down the Fire.
Contrary to the orthodox view that the Resurrection inevitably led to Christ's ascension to transcendent glory, Altizer's radical interpretation
of the Resurrection sees it as just another point on the continuum
of kenotic Incarnation: the dialectical movement from primordial, transcendent
Spirit to radical immanence
and flesh.
I agree with you
and think I understand the teachings
of Paul as it relates to the
flesh and the
spirit.
«Paul explained the internal war between the
spirit and flesh of a believer very well.
The portrait is psychologically true: the perennial tension between the animal ecstasies
of the
flesh, which bind one to unthinking material necessity,
and the rational freedom
of the
spirit, which is always striving to subdue the brute.
The Old Testament reflects not at all Platonic teaching about the soul as imprisoned in the
flesh and escaping at death to the realm
of pure
spirit, but rather Egyptian teaching, with its hope
of a physical resurrection.
The idols
of modernity» race, nation, the state» tried to kill the people
of God, Jewry in the
flesh and Christianity in
spirit.
Let us read the gospel boldly
and we shall see that no idea can better convey to our minds the redemptive function
of the Word than that
of a unification
of all
flesh in one
and the same
Spirit.
Personally i think those specific prayers are a distraction most
of the times we pray these prayers because its what we think we need
and often thats not the case.The better way is to just trust the holy
spirit let him lead i think we miss the awesomeness
of doing it Gods way its easy not difficult.The struggle is difficult when we are walking by the
flesh and trying to do it our way.When i got to the point where i said to the God i am not going to do it my way anymore
and i submit to you because know whats best for me.Change me
and when i feel the wrong desires or temptation to walk by the
flesh i just say Lord you know i am weak
and i can not live a christian life without you help me.As soon as i do that it is effortless theres no struggle thats how we should grow.I am excited with what God is doing in my life he has opened his word i am seeing the fruit
of his life impacting mine
and i am changing day by day.I am walking by faith
and not slipping back into my old desires i know what it means to be an overcomer sin does not have dominion over me anymore.In myself i can not boast because it is the power
of God at work in my life
and i give all the praise back to God.brentnz
To this exhortation, in Mark
and Matthew, Jesus adds a gentle expression
of sympathetic insight (Mk 14:38; Mt 26:41) that has become proverbial: «The
spirit indeed is willing, but the
flesh is weak.»
I think the «temple»
of our bodies is so important to God, because He is not only desirous
of dwelling with
and in us in Oneness in
Spirit, but in
flesh and Body as well.
Psalm 104:30, addressing God
and speaking of the creatures, says, «Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created And, as if in response, Elihu says to Job (34:14 - 15) that if God «gather unto himself his spirit and his breath; All flesh shall perish together...» I have cut Elihu's sentence a little short so as to leave the emphasis on the phrase «all flesh.&raq
and speaking
of the creatures, says, «Thou sendest forth thy
spirit, they are created
And, as if in response, Elihu says to Job (34:14 - 15) that if God «gather unto himself his spirit and his breath; All flesh shall perish together...» I have cut Elihu's sentence a little short so as to leave the emphasis on the phrase «all flesh.&raq
And, as if in response, Elihu says to Job (34:14 - 15) that if God «gather unto himself his
spirit and his breath; All flesh shall perish together...» I have cut Elihu's sentence a little short so as to leave the emphasis on the phrase «all flesh.&raq
and his breath; All
flesh shall perish together...» I have cut Elihu's sentence a little short so as to leave the emphasis on the phrase «all
flesh.»