My criticism would be that it looks like a lot
of other climate blogs now.
Or on most
of the other climate blogs — on either side of the dance floor.
Not exact matches
Similar frustrations, he said, led him and a group
of other climate experts to found the collective
blog Realclimate.org several years ago, meant to bring timely and relevant
climate information direct from scientists to the public.
It's hard to know just how far this view has seeped into mainstream
climate scepticism, but the themes
of corrupt science and cheating and lying
climate scientists are widely disseminated on sceptic
blogs and
other outlets.
In summary, the problem seems to be that the circling
of the wagons strategy developed by small groups
of climate researchers in response to the politically motivated attacks against
climate science are now being used against
other climate researchers and the more technical
blogs (e.g. Climateaudit, Lucia, etc).
A recent paper Internet
Blogs, Polar Bears, and
Climate - Change Denial by Proxy by JEFFREY A. HARVEY and 13
others has been creating somewhat
of a stir in the blogosphere.
Yes, I know, not the best way to introduce how to wear satin but I thought I'd get that out
of the way because some
of you who read this
blog live in tropical
climates but for those
of us who are now moving into Spring, it is nice, for a change, to wear satin elsewhere
other than in bed (wink, wink).
«I'll say this t the public Mr Interviewer, anyone who believes that the information on
blogs like Judith Curry's and appearances by Lord Monckton is based on the scientific facts as contained in the IPCC reports and thousands
of other Papers prodcued by 27,000 people in the
climate field are fooling themselves.
Watch the first 1 to 2 minutes section
of the UP Stream Pt 4 doco / research prject specifically being directed at all
Climate Scientists about how important Values are, and why Listening to the community (the target market) is absolutely critical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRKTqsXfjM Watch how people (the general public) are treated by others (climate scientists included) on all climate blogs when they indicate they are not yet convinced of AGW or can't work out who to believe is telling the truth and in doing so reference someone else's «opinion»... and try and measure the level of paranoia exhibited by pro-agw folks about such negative comments about the s
Climate Scientists about how important Values are, and why Listening to the community (the target market) is absolutely critical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRKTqsXfjM Watch how people (the general public) are treated by
others (
climate scientists included) on all climate blogs when they indicate they are not yet convinced of AGW or can't work out who to believe is telling the truth and in doing so reference someone else's «opinion»... and try and measure the level of paranoia exhibited by pro-agw folks about such negative comments about the s
climate scientists included) on all
climate blogs when they indicate they are not yet convinced of AGW or can't work out who to believe is telling the truth and in doing so reference someone else's «opinion»... and try and measure the level of paranoia exhibited by pro-agw folks about such negative comments about the s
climate blogs when they indicate they are not yet convinced
of AGW or can't work out who to believe is telling the truth and in doing so reference someone else's «opinion»... and try and measure the level
of paranoia exhibited by pro-agw folks about such negative comments about the science.
But there has also been an «appraisal»
of the paper by Nic Lewis that has appeared in no fewer than three
other climate blogs (you can guess which).
Gavin Schmidt, the NASA climatologist and indefatigable curator
of the Realclimate.org
blog (photographed above by Keith Myers
of The New York Times), has weighed in on the year
of attacks, defense and reappraisal that he and dozens
of other climate researchers experienced following the unauthorized release
of folders containing hundreds
of their e-mail exchanges and files last November.
Maybe I'm ignorant
of the absence in coverage relating to our
climate issues because I voluntarily seek out all articles pertaining to these multiple subjects covered here in Andy's
blog, among
other's.
The article and particularly the comments on «The Register» and myriad
other loci
of discussion (for instance, NY Times
climate blog) tell us that until we can improve our collective understanding
of science as a concept we can expect to encounter a lot
of friction in any attempt to make progress in public and industry policy responses to GW.
A previous study by the same researchers questioning
other climate research was rather harshly criticized by Realclimate.org and Kevin Trenberth
of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, writing in an online
blog of the journal Nature.
The
other would be to ramp up
climate and space observations (instead
of shredding budgets for relevant agencies), to boost the human capacity for resilience to
climate extremes
of all sorts, whatever the cause (a mantra on this
blog), and to keep up a sustained energy quest to build a menu that works for the long haul — an imperative that is utterly sensible regardless
of short - term ups and downs in temperature.
This shift away from CO2 - centric emissions debates is also evident in a group
blog post by analysts at the Center for American Progress, who propose a «multiple multilateralism» approach on
climate that, among
other things, seeks quick steps on sources
of warming
other than carbon dioxide — particularly sooty Arctic pollution and gases already considered under the existing ozone - protection treaty.
Given the evidence that words may be relatively worthless in propelling change on energy and
climate,
other kinds
of communication, from cartoons to folk songs to YouTube videos on geo - engineering, have as valid a place in the discourse as articles or, yes,
blogs.
Daniel C. Goodwin (36)-- See
Climate Progress, linked under the
Other Opinions section
of the sidebar, for critically negative commentary on that Nature article by the
blog owner, Dr. Joseph Romm.
In relation to the above posts, and the drip drip drip effect
of climate change, taking place so glacially - slow and yet very very real — and perhaps with huge ramifications for the future
of humankind — I coined a new word the
other day... and the inspiration for it came directly from this
blog.
I have no idea what you are referring to, except perhaps that the rote regurgitation
of long - since and many - times - over debunked denialist nonsense is mercifully (and no doubt laboriously) deleted by the RC moderators — unlike every
other open
blog on the Internet where any attempt to discuss the science
of anthropogenic global warming is quickly drowned out by a torrent
of pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, blatant falsehoods, and hate speech against
climate scientists.
I am aware that there is a hugely varied readership
of my
blog; those who are very well informed about weather and
climate, and
others that have an interest in the subject but would struggle with some
of the details contained in scientific papers.
Hundreds
of comments and E-mail exchanges took place in 2011 between Andrew, members
of John O'Sullivan's group
of climate science «slayers» / Principia Scientific International (PSI) members and
other parties and many have been posted on the Global Political Shenanigans
blog since May.
I'm very sceptical
of CAGW and I read WUWT every day and follow some
other blogs like
Climate Audit and
Climate Etc. pretty routinely and I never saw anything about this survey until the paper came out.
This
blog — I don't know if you've read any
of the
other pages on it — is about
climate politics.
I'm not sure if you have read it, and a quick perusal
of other blogs finds no mention, so I thought I would bring it to your attention for the parallels to the development
of the
climate consensus.
Given the scale
of repetition
of arguments on this and
other climate blogs I consider any such duplication for the general good not just defensible but a blessing.
There are
other blogs where the pure science is debated, and
others have their own perspective on the politics
of climate change.
We respectfully ask all activists, bloggers, and
other journalists to immediately remove all
of these documents and any quotations taken from them, especially the fake «
climate strategy» memo and any quotations from the same, from their
blogs, Web sites, and publications, and to publish retractions.
Today I offer this post as a «Summary for Policymakers» regarding my series
of seven prior
blog posts about a smear effort which took place back in 2007 that is a case study for examining
other prior and current industry corruption accusations against skeptic
climate scientists.
«
Climate Power Play by the AAAS...» has been a very interesting
blog string; however, like some
others, it degraded into a bantering between a small number
of individuals, with volumes
of hot air exchanged, often personal insults, and
of zero interest to the well intended general followership.
A disconcerting feature
of much commentary here and in
other blogs is the relentless refrain claiming that the «
climate system is chaotic.»
As a Fellow
of the Geological Society
of America (GSA), I periodically
blog on their open forum and on their
Climate Community website and among
other things, I have been accused
of «being on the payroll
of the Koch brothers,» and when posting a link to Svensmark's video on clouds accused
of doing science by u-tube,» and a few
other choice things from so - called respected «scientists.»
This is perhaps the only explanation that fits the world view
of some
of the CAGW consensus advocates, that the popularity
of blogs like Watts Up With That,
Climate Audit, Bishop Hill, Jo Nova, The AirVent, Harmless Sky and many
others, is because organisations are creating an environment that allows these
blogs to flourish.
«One way or the
other, Gleick's use
of deception in pursuit
of his cause after years
of calling out
climate deception has destroyed his credibility and harmed
others,» wrote
climate journalist Andy Revkin on his New York Times «Dot Earth»
blog, adding, «The broader tragedy is that his decision to go to such extremes in his fight with Heartland has greatly set back any prospects
of the country having the «rational public debate» that he wrote — correctly — is so desperately needed.»
For this reason, among
others, this is by far the most credible
blog on the subject
of climate climate.
A recent study involving visitors to
climate blogs found that conspiracist ideation was associated with the rejection
of climate science and the rejection
of other scientific propositions such as the link between lung cancer and smoking, and between HIV and AIDS (Lewandowsky, Oberauer, & Gignac, in press; LOG12 from here on).
While there are obvious prominent owners
of right - leaning media, like Rupert Murdoch
of Fox News and News Corporation who are
climate change deniers or «doubters», the media in general in the United States and
other key countries has suppressed or downplayed the story
of global warming, delegating it to obscure web - only
blogs or leaving it out entirely
of their offerings.
Chris Schoneveld: Aren't most
of us on this
blog interested in the science
of «solar influence» on temperature /
climate along with the science
of other influences (e.g., trade winds «driving» the ENSO) and accurate gathering
of data?
Back in the early spring
of 2007, believers
of catastrophic man - caused global warming were no doubt quite happy with Al Gore's «An Inconvenient Truth» movie, Ross Gelbspan's books, prominent pro-global warming
blogs, mainstream media outlets, and
others who gave essentially no fair play to the presentation
of detailed
climate assessments from skeptic
climate scientists.
John Carter wrote: > For libertarian conservatives, there is a chance to learn and grow about the issue, but only if they don't use as their source
blogs like this (and many
others that are far worse) that continue to post clever philosophical musings to chip away at the basic idea
of climate change...
For libertarian conservatives, there is a chance to learn and grow about the issue, but only if they don't use as their source
blogs like this (and many
others that are far worse) that continue to post clever philosophical musings to chip away at the basic idea
of climate change, rather assess what those actual facts
of the issue are, and more importantly, why they are relevant.
Expanded
climate communications Heartland plays an important role in
climate communications, especially through our in - house experts (e.g., Taylor) through his Forbes
blog and related high profile outlets, our conferences, and through coordination with external networks (such as WUWT and
other groups capable
of rapidly mobilizing responses to new scientific findings, news stories, or unfavorable
blog posts).
A recent paper Internet
Blogs, Polar Bears, and
Climate - Change Denial by Proxy by JEFFREY A. HARVEY and 13
others has been creating somewhat
of a stir in the blogosphere.
Along with the sheer unpleasantness
of the moderators at Real
Climate and
other alarmist
blogs, the Guardian's practice
of summarily banning anyone who does not follow exactly the party line as laid down by the Klimatariat has driven more people to become sceptics than any deep study
of the science ever has.
Well, I don't suppose anyone reads this far down the comments anyway — I usually don't — , so here goes: As much as I admire S. McIntyre and value his contribution in creating and maintaining this
blog — and, for what it's worth, I see him as a veritable reincarnation
of Richard Feynman in terms
of scientific rigor and integrity and brilliance — , for me this post and some
others similar to it are «
Climate Audit Lite», which are ultimately not especially satisfying.
I read this
blog and
others and I'm aware
of a very wide range
of skeptical opinions concerning
climate data.
I'm afraid that much
of the strength
of the reaction to your questions was based on past experiences - I can not count how many times someone has commented here and on
other climate blogs claiming despite the evidence that mismatches between specific projections and observed temperatures somehow invalidate all
climate modeling, despite the projected emissions not matching actuals.
But, however one rationalizes it, this «lack
of warming» has caused quite a bit
of stir in
climate circles (as witnessed by this and many
other blog sites)
Meanwhile Gavin and the
other members
of the Team at the Real
Climate (RC)
blog have gone into overdrive in moderating any commenter who ask any reasonable questions about all
of this.
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Of course, Dr. Curry could handle such comments in the forthright, time - honored climate change blog manner of censoring comments, deleting them, or banning posters as we find at blogs like RealClimate, ClimateSight and others run by real scientist
Of course, Dr. Curry could handle such comments in the forthright, time - honored
climate change
blog manner
of censoring comments, deleting them, or banning posters as we find at blogs like RealClimate, ClimateSight and others run by real scientist
of censoring comments, deleting them, or banning posters as we find at
blogs like RealClimate, ClimateSight and
others run by real scientists.