Anyway, I'd challenge a hand - full
of atheists against a hand - full of Christians any day.
I find it interesting that one of the main argument
of atheist against God is that they are for free will.
Despite a few historical examples
of atheists against abortion (including Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton), atheists are all for it now.
Alas, I am somewhat aware
of these atheists against whom, I'm afraid, no rational argument would do any good.
Not exact matches
Graham more robustly took on the cause
of anti-Communism, making preaching
against the
atheist regime part
of his sermons for years.
Yet, the
atheist sees nothingness at the end
of the journey which seems to go
against everything we know and see.
Dawkins argues that while there appear to be plenty
of individuals that would place themselves as «1» due to the strictness
of religious doctrine
against doubt, most
atheists do not consider themselves «7» because atheism arises from a lack
of evidence and evidence can always change a thinking person's mind.
No hard feelings, I would write the same thing if you would have said the same type
of argument
against a Muslim, Jew,
Atheist, etc..
One
of them is that
atheists are still sufficiently discriminated
against that most
of us are in the closet.
Atheists are not out protesting
against equal rights or basing equal rights off
of a book written 2000 years ago.
But since you and I both know God is the ultimate authority and thus sets the standard, and God clearly is
against abortion, and the
atheists are erroneously calling very early human life nothing but «a bunch
of cells,» isn't it up to us to fight for those lives?
All you do is spew out random idiocy
against atheists cloaked in a self - righteous, arrogant certainty
of things you can not demonstrate.
And couldn't your post have reflected your thoughts on the article itself instead
of promoting more prejudice
against atheists?
You're
against the right
of the fundie to yell fundie slogans,, but love the thought
of Atheists disrupting Christian groups.
To be reasoned and reasonable might not be traits
of rationalities attributed to many loving Christians who are too hellishly scared to clamour
against the folds
of riddled
Atheists who do ever make a foolish mockery out
of all Christendoms!
The problem with Observer's comment is that if God suddenly appeared before
Atheists it would go
against His nature
of love.
Whatever orthodox believers may think
of Kenny's journey over these decades from classical theism to something vaguer, he is at least an equal - opportunity basher: For his aversion to absolutism can equally well be employed
against the New
Atheists, who affect an apodictic absolutism in their argumentation that makes them as impregnable to counterevidence as anything found in a creationist textbook.
Do they really imagine that an
atheist wants to join their religious group, hide his / her real beliefs for months or years, get themselves elected by other members then radically change the whole nature
of the club,
against all the other member's wishes?
In a 2000 interview with Women's Quarterly, the great critic displayed about as much indifference to the existence
of God as is humanly possible; he had neither the commitment
of a true believer nor the paradoxical loyalty
of the
atheist who kicks
against the pricks:
You raise a very good point that escapes most theists and that is while they argue
against atheists for not believing in their god, they forget that most
of those arguments could be applied to them by somebody
of another religion.
If I fought
against the right
of atheists to campaign for
atheist candidates, then why should I expect anything less than a counterattack
against my own voting rights as a Christian?
Some
atheists will spend all
of their time, day and night, on forums like this, arguing
against the truth.
Its amazing how much effort they take to fight
against something they supposedly don't believe in... I guess the moral
of the story is that it may be hard to defend the truth, but to defend ignorance like the
atheists in massively more difficult and takes much more effort
I see the argument
against the term «
atheist,» but I don't like «non-believer,» either, because I believe in lots
of things — science, truth, empathy, the power
of creativity, etc — just not in anyone's god (s).
I also hear
of religious people seeking to discriminate
against others that don't share their religion, primarily
atheists, and often Muslims too.
I've been an
atheist for more than 20 years, and I can count on one hand the number
of times I've felt like religion was truly being foisted upon me
against my will.
It sounds to me like you are fine with
atheists supporting discrimination
against gays, just so long as gays don't have to support the free speech or other rights
of atheists.
The
atheists are fighting a campaign
against Fundamentalist Christians who are trying to run for President
of the United States and change our laws to suit their ridiculous biblical ideas.
it's insane how you know so little
of your own religion and how you go
against your Christs teaching with such arrogant and disdain towards
atheist and other religions your nothing but a bigot and hatemonger your world is only black and white and you can't fathom how a country can have so many different people with different believes that don't match yours and can live peacefully without your christs.
Similarly, I don't suspect many
atheists of seriously wanting to enact legislation
against the religious running for office.
Even worse, those very
atheists who spend all
of their time on forums like this and fighting
against the truth (rather than being out enjoying the world in what little time they have) will ultimately die and go to hell only to then find out the truth — that they've been wrong about everything they've believed their whole life.
Atheists and theists alike share this expectation, with atheists eager to show that their moral knowledge and action are uncompromised by disbelief in God's existence, and theists eager to establish the rational credentials of their moral convictions and protect themselves against charges of
Atheists and theists alike share this expectation, with
atheists eager to show that their moral knowledge and action are uncompromised by disbelief in God's existence, and theists eager to establish the rational credentials of their moral convictions and protect themselves against charges of
atheists eager to show that their moral knowledge and action are uncompromised by disbelief in God's existence, and theists eager to establish the rational credentials
of their moral convictions and protect themselves
against charges
of fideism.
I find the unremitting hostility and animus
of atheists like «Derp» baffling; for all the seemingly wonderful life he is enjoying, he seems compelled to get on this site and spew derision, mockery, and hatred
against others.I simply do not, can not grasp that mindset; to claim to actually derive pleasure from in effect being a bully - again, that say a whole lot about his true character.So... Peace & Love to all!!
Two comments.One, the
atheist / materialist claims that he / she... «Did «nt believe in free will»... O.K.Should we take that to mean some mindless, heretofore unknown force apllied those words in your behalf?Did someone put the proverbial «gun to your head «and force you to post your comments?we await you presumably forced answer with bated breath.Two.As for Mr.Gingrich, beware.Politics aside, the one question yet remains for Calista: How did you, a professed «devout «Roman Catholic, carry on a 6 - year affair with a man you knew was married?How does that square with the Biblical prohibition
against committing adultery?Oh wait!I know!As a «devout «Roman Catholic you can sin with impunity; just go to your priest, say a couple
of «hail Marys and Our Fathers», ask the priest to bless your sinning, and resume.
Of course!I had forgetton how easily Catholics excuse their trangressions (ex opere operato, anyone).
A born again Christian that has a felony past
of attempted robbery, 2nd degree murder, incest and terrorism is running for president
against a known
atheist that has no criminal past.
Out
of all the postings on this site today, I found «Derp's «post the most fascinating and informative, as well as deeply revealing.Even after boasting
of what seems to be a practically perfect live by any measure, he informs us that he takes pleasure in mocking and ridiculing those
of faith who are presumably his opposite; I can only wonder if, given all his supposed accomplishments, he is smart enough to realize how deeply revealing
of his true character his remarks are.As a believer, I rarely engage in arguments with my
atheist friends, and like to think I wouldn't lower myself to the level
of juvenile name - calling and personal attacks
against whatever my
atheist friends hold dear.Most
of the time we simply agree to disagree; when they hold forth with misinformation or ignorance on their assumed «knowledge «
of my faith, I try to gently correct them; I certainly don't allow any disagreements we have to devolve into hateful insults and name - calling.
b) What you've proposed here is not the kind
of religious belief these
atheists are railing
against.
The difference seems to be that
atheists are using science and logic and all believers have is a 2,000 - year - old book full
of non-reproduceable stories that go
against all the laws
of physics.
As soon as religious beliefs are no longer used to discriminate
against disliked groups, or to impede science and education, a lot
of atheists will probably cease fighting them.
British theologian and historian Alister McGrath explains why some are
atheists: «What propels people toward atheism is above all a sense
of revulsion
against the excesses and failures
of organized religion.»
It's a way to justify what you don't yet understand, rather than acknowledging that it's just understandable at the moment, and it's acceptance amongst those who think like they do, it's the creation
of a definable «evil» to fight
against (satan,
atheists, other religions, basically everyone except their small group
of like minders... even other denominations that are nearly identical quibble).
This not only helps to explain religion's primordial, irrepressible, widespread, and seemingly inextinguishable character in the human experience, it also suggests that the skeptical Enlightenment, secular humanist, and New
Atheist visions for a totally secular human world are simply not realistic — they are cutting
against a very strong grain in the nature
of reality's structure and so will fail to achieve their purpose.
The revelational rap
against apologetic theology is that it either engages in a sellout to the «world» (the self - disclosure
of God being so utterly relativized by human wisdom that Christians are unable to tell
atheists anything that they don't already know), or it is an exercise in various intellectual imperialisms, such as: «We can prove the existence
of God» or «If human culture really understood itself, it would find that it is striving toward that which we already have.»
If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average
atheist crime
against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though
atheists have had less than one - twentieth the number
of opportunities with which to commit them.
If an
atheist politician can not get elected because
of a religious angle being used
against them and counter it successfully... maybe they don't need to be elected.
I don't read any
atheists on here supporting the selling
of 6 - year - old girls as slaves or discriminating
against women and the handicapped like the Bible does..
The
atheists struggle
against the Son
of God, Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.
He points out that religion has become essentially a way
of distinguishing people: Christians
against non-Christians, theists
against atheists, or white
against coloured people.
Atheists are very much discriminated
against in our society, and I hope that will change so that more
of us can come out
of the closet.
One
of the reasons that
atheists comment here is that religious beliefs unfortunately impact laws and government policy and our laws.The idiocy
of religion unfortunately permeates much
of our society, so the more we can fight back and speak out
against religious idiocy, and the more visibly, the better.