Damian has been frantically kissing up to try and get himself in with one
of the trad pubs — probably Tor or the like, in my opinion.
That's an observation that the playing field is now tilted in favor
of trad pubs.
In terms
of trad pub vs indie — most trad publishers don't want to publish collections of short fiction by unknowns, but you can submit to magazines and anthologies as well as self - publishing collections or using them for marketing.
There's also a lot
of trad pubbed crap out there.
Joe speaks boldly about his dislike
of the trad pub scene and why the ball is no longer all in the publisher's court.
For every Brandon, there are thousands
of trad pub authors that came and went.
My hunch is this was written at the suggestion
of a Trad Pub house.
I can honestly say that 98 % of what I read (all indie) is better than
that of trad pub'd books.
I'm not annoyed or surprised — I predicted that once Amazon had its way with the big 5, once indies had served their purpose as a stick with which to threaten trad pubs, it would go back to business as usual, where the lion's share of sales went to trad pubs and Amazon imprints (a variation
of trad pub), and indies had to generate far more content and work far harder for a much smaller slice of the pie.
But when you look at the «prizes,» it gives one pause: enough of an advance to last maybe three or four months, and a contract that exemplifies the worst
of trad pub practices.
I review
all of my trad pub royalty statements when they come in, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for beyond checking that the various royalty rates are as they should be and running the math (cost of book x royalty rate x no.
Show us how many indies who debuted in the past ten years without the benefit
of a trad pub background or an Amazon imprint deal are earning these figures and the comparison will be meaningful.
What's more likely is that they focus on their own Thomas and Mercer brand, making it successful, and push the offerings
of the trad pub world, because they make more, and because those are likely higher quality than most of the indie stuff.
From most of the conversations I've seen (with a few exceptions, including this article and discussion), the two sides seem to be: «The Dinosaur
of Trad Pub is Going Down!
As the value
of trad pub services continues to deteriorate the rationale for staying with a house over going indie continues to weaken.
One recent call for reviewers (
of a trad pub novel that shall remain nameless) required me to apply for a limited number of paper arcs, and a slightly less limited number of eARCs, with a small essay explaining why my blog was worthy of «winning» an arc for review (when I know very well the eARCs involve no cost whatsoever).
And then I remembered, I had an agent, a great agent, I wrote great books (so all the rejecting editors told me) and yes, you are right, self pub has given my stories a voice and an ear and the chance to be read, when they otherwise would have still been gathering dust on my hard drive, yet, on the other hand this is hard, REALLY HARD, it is SO hard to find your way to a readership as a SP, with limited funds (dwindling)... and the glimmer
of trad pub — with their power to splash your name around established circles of readers, and their ability to secure a great number of reviews where, as a self pub, doors have been slammed in my face — becomes temptingly shiny again, (it's like childbirth, you forget all the painful stuff with time)... and it all gets very tempting... almost tempting enough to consider sacrificing one work JUST one artistic premise for the trade off of visibility... and then perhaps, just perhaps THEN, my SP efforts will finally sprout wings... but then I hear you and other say, it wasn't worth it, you'd never do it again, and I sigh... And then I wake up the next morning and think of packing it all in, and going to work for Walmart and steady shitty pay... lol And then along comes this blog post.
The other is that since Amazon got lower prices from trad publishers, the price
of trad pubbed books is through the floor.
Some of the best writers in the world chose to leave the confines
of trad pub and take their careers in their own hands.
Publishing Perspectives reported that the Guadalajara Rights Center — a meeting place for publishers to exchange foreign - language rights — had sold out its 125 tables several months in advance, a sure sign
of trad pub's growing interest in the global Spanish book market.
Not exact matches
More profit for
trad pubs, better odds
of some readers finding mine a bargain.
I agree completely with Jackie Barbosa above in that the real takeaway from this snippet
of data is the unconscionably huge portion
of earnings that the
trad pubs get from each ebook they sell.
I was discussing this with someone yesterday, going back and forth at possible explanations, which included that self -
pubbed authors tend to work the review mines harder than their
trad pubbed peers, or have more support from other indie authors reviewing, or get higher ratings due to the generally lower price
of the work (greater satisfaction due to a price / performance expectation).
Additionally, they're all competing with each other, and with hundreds
of thousands
of new
trad pub offerings per year, as well as millions
of backlist titles.
While it looks as though a few people MAY have listed the same books as indie - only titles (which I described as frontlist, never - traditionally -
pubbed books) and backlist titles (previously
trad -
pubbed, now indie), I can't be certain
of that, so I've counted them separately.
This year I received responses from a total
of 227 authors, representing 2,594 indie titles
of which 1928 were frontlist indie titles and 666 were backlist (
trad -
pubbed, now indie) titles, assuming no duplicates (see above).
The top news
of the week touched upon waning ebook sales for
trad pubs, the EU's recent ruling that ebooks aren't books, the new Author Earnings Dashboard, the getting - by attitude, and the indie startup mindset.
One
of the things that struck me, and probably many others, about his report and its conclusions, is that self -
pubbed titles tend to average higher review ratings than
trad -
pubbed books.
Trad pubs earn a larger portion
of their revenue off paperbacks because they've got the book stores locked down and are losing marketshare to indy ebooks.
I make my living from writing, actually, with a mix
of indie and
trad pub stuff, but there are people who are far more skilled than me who don't, and people who stink who make a lot more.
LK — A lot
of agents and publishers are making
trad pubbed authors do this stuff.
Books 2 and 3 in that «City
of God» series are selling well and earning much better than they did in their first editions as
trad -
pubbed novels.
For example, if you are dead - set on going
trad -
pub, the chances
of you making enough money in the beginning is fairly remote.
This is how I sold my first several books and how many
of my
trad -
pubbed friends broke in to publishing and I have long believed it's the best way to make contacts.
I've been fielding emails for years from readers asking why that book was priced so high when the rest
of the books in the series (this is the series that started out in
trad pub and that is now self
pub) ranged from free to about $ 4.99.
KU and cheap big - name
Trad pubbed books have stopped sales dead for most
of us.
When you think about it, it makes sense: back when
trad pub limited us to one book a year per author, there were still plenty
of people who became fans
of Terry Prachett, Mercedes Lackey, Patricia Briggs and David Weber.
And you're also correct that
trad -
pubbed authors earn only a fraction
of the net revenue for each book sold.
Another reason your
trad pubbed books may sell well in print versions is because there are lots and lots
of readers in that market — by the accounts I have read 60 - 70 %
of total — and many
of them prefer print, or to find reads in physical locations.
Some
of the biggest indie authors first got their start in
trad pub, while others never sent out a single query letter before hitting it big.
I went to an author talk by a
trad pubbed author and she had to buy a copy
of her own book at the bookstore because her contract doesn't allow her to buy copies
of her own book at a discount from the publisher.
Here's my answer to the inevitable discussion
of how
Trad Pub is «the one true path» and if you aren't
Trad Pub'd, you aren't a real writer:
Indies and
trad pubs alike will shell out hundreds to thousands
of dollars to pull in 2,000 - 3,000 sales or 20,000 - 30,000 free downloads in a single day.
However, we know they're elitists from things they've said in the past about self - published books being
of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
(
Of course, this assumes the actual content and writing are worth a damsel, but that's true regardless of self - pub or trad - pub
Of course, this assumes the actual content and writing are worth a damsel, but that's true regardless
of self - pub or trad - pub
of self -
pub or
trad -
pub.)
I seem to be perfectly able to separate out good indie reads from bad ones and really I'd have to go through that process
of elimination with
trad pubbed books as well.
If you wrote and published just a little bit more and did some
of these as self -
pubbed books at a lower price range to go along with your
trad pub deals, I'll bet you could make a lot more.
With that goes risk — a DIY setup doing a
trad -
pub style 10k hardback print run is a huge risk in terms
of warehousing, returns etc..
With
trad pubbing, you give up much
of this control.
Unless you were able to leverage Hugh Howey - levels
of ebook sales (in which case I'm guessing Amazon would try to snap you up), I doubt a
trad pub would want print rights only.